Cowboys and Redskins are both 2 of my least favorite teams in the league. I hate both of you with a passion. But my hatred for Goodell is even worse. He has a way of playing a game of gotcha with players, coaches and the entire teams such as the saints, cowboys, redskins and patriots. His tactics for punishments are really sickening to me and i think its a sick game to him. He is twisted in the head. Goodell must go. The absolute worst Commissioner and maybe even the worst man i have ever seen. As much as it kills me to say this, i am behind the Cowboys and Redskins on this one. I hope Goodell gets fired and i hope you both get back all of your cap money and we get back our coaches and players. I am so sorry for all of the other fans who cannot and refuse to see the disgusting and sick person Goodell is. I am so sorry for all of you. But when Goodell comes and plays a game of gotcha with your team, i can promise you that i will not be here to support you. The way people have dragged the Saints name through the mud has put me over my limits. Some of the things that people have said about my beloved Saints makes me never want to forgive any of you.

The problem isn’t so much the price as it is the fact that you can only get it with DirecTV. I have DirecTV and love it and wouldn’t dream of having any other TV provider. But people who for whatever reason can’t get DirecTV are shut out. So there’s a suit for you.

The problem with all these lawsuits is that it’s we the fans that are going to get stuck with the bill. As the NFL asks every team to pony up to help the NY office pay all these legal fees, the owners will jack up ticket prices and we will be the only ones who get hosed.

Zaggs is right. Put it more simply-

There are four years. First year uncapped, next three years capped. The following is permissible:

Sign player A for $30 million in Y1.
Sign player A for $8 million/yr for each year.

The next scenario presents a problem:

Sign player A for $30 million in Y1, then $1 in Y2, Y3, Y4. While the contract is perfectly valid in Y1, from the perspective of Y2, it becomes a contract contrary to the CBA from that year, since the player has a contract for his services that violates that year’s cap.

“While it may not be what you want to focus on, the lawsuit is actually about a secret cap”

This is true. I think that they likely colluded, either formally or informally. Unfortunately, the Union both waived this issue per the CBA, and then ratified the waiver by allowing the punishment of the Redskins and the Cowboys to proceed. That’s going to be hard to overcome.

Remember- not everything unjust is illegal, and not everything illegal is unjust.

2nd The Redskins, Cowboys and a few other teams did overspend. The NFL would have just pointed to them and said “see these teams spent this much, there is no secret salary cap” Its only after the NFL punished those teams for spending that much that there is proof that there was a secret salary cap and teams that did not stick to it would be punished.
The real question is going to be does NFLPA have the right to sue since the NFL lied and does signing off on the Redskins and Cowboys punishments forfeit their right to sue

I don’t care that it might burn down their own house, I hope this goes up in flames, those crooked owners (who I normally back) deserve it on this one.

It seems to me that the NFLPA got out-lawyered on this one.

The NFLPA doesn’t have to prove it was aware of 2010 collusion before it signed the 2011, they only have to prove that the NFL told them there wasn’t or fraudulently concealed evidence that there was.

And your position that agreeing with the penalties “reaffirmed” or was a “ratification” of their waiver of claims is so far out of left field that I have to wonder if you were ever really a lawyer. The two are completely unrelated.

Why would the NFLPA stand in the way of the NFL taking action that would prove collusion? Especially if not doing so got them something in return.

Of course the NFLPA is trying to have it both ways. So is the league. Why wouldn’t they?

Doesn’t make them legally wrong.

Now that they have a statement from the NFL saying everything PRE-current CBA is null/void..

Can’t they say.. “Hey.. null/void.. no suspension for Vilma and the rest of the Saints/bounty players.”

The NFL can’t have it both ways..

Nothing was withheld. I remember reading an article on the Ravens website where Ozzie Newsome said that the team had set it’s own salary cap and that he expected every other team would do the same thing. I’m sure other GM’s and owners came out and said the same thing that Ozzie did at that time. If I can find the information then it wasn’t withheld from anyone.

Good luck to RG3 when he has 5 rookies blocking for him next year.

The NFLPA is a bunch of greedheads, and they’ll do anything to suck the last drop of blood out of the NFL and ruin the game. Three billion in damages? Smith is out of his freaking mind.

I don’t understand why so many cry about Roger Goodell. He makes the players and the owners follow the rules. Only those trying to cheat need to fear him.

I told them I could not believe they could make that mistake.

They did not argue against anything I said, and advised me they would be issuing a major statement within the next day or so. That statement never came.

If the NFL or NFLPA thinks their actions protect the brand in any way, they are nuts. Owners and players should be ticked off. I am because I am paying a lot of money for this crap.

HTTR.

Please fix this for the fans first you millionaire owners and players…..

Either agree to the cap penalties or the cap goes to $110 mil says mara and goddell to d. smith in a dimly lit back room.