Brilliant.

The best way to prove the existence of a secret salary cap was to allow the league to penalize the Redskins and Cowboys for violating it.

By signing off on the punishment, the NFLPA set in stone the most significant piece of evidence it needed to prove collusion.

The NFL has been badly outmaneuvered and looks ridiculous.
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Actually, by getting the NFLPA to agree to the punishments the league’s disciplinary action of the Skins & Boys cannot be considered a current act collusion. Brilliant on the NFL’s part.

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realitypolice says:May 23, 2012 1:21 PM

The NFLPA will argue that at the time they agreed to that clause, they did so because the league fraudulently assured them that there had been no collusion, when in fact there had. Thus they signed under false pretenses.

…they would not have agreed to that if they had not been led to believe AT THAT TIME that there had been no collusion.

realitypolice says:May 23, 2012 2:04 PM

A contract signed upon fraudulent assurances by either side is not valid.

If the union can prove that the league was concealing evidence and/or lying in response to direct inquiries about collusion made by the union to the league, than they could have signed away the rights to their first born child and it doesn’t matter.

You simply cannot induce someone to sign a contract by lying to them.

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The league fraudulently assured them that there had been no collusion?

A contract signed upon fraudulent assurances by either side is not valid?

Concealing evidence and/or lying in response to direct inquiries about collusion made by the union to the league?

Where are you getting this stuff from? At what point did the league assure the union it never colluded? There is no evidence of this. And your car analogy is not apples to apples; selling something and settling a dispute are not the same thing.

The NFLPA signed away their rights to a collusion law suite on two different documents – the CBA & the SSA. The SSA clearly states “The parties stipulate to the dismissal with prejudice of all claims, known and unknown, whether pending or not”. In agreeing with the terms of the new CBA the NFLPA released claims of the unknown. They did that, well…knowingly.

When it goes to trial, they will summon Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder, neither of whom will perjure themselves. If they invoke the 5th, then even the corrupt horse turds in Congress will have to act.

Somebody else worried allowed that Jones and Snyder should be exempted. They needn’t be. If the NFLPA prevails, their own lawsuit would be a slam dunk. It would also include treble damages.

The spirit of Al Davis rides again.

The only fair thing about the cap penalty is the $36 million is the likely cap number for Haynesworth and Hall.

Frankly, the only collusion here was the owners’ paying EVERYONE in 2010, like all of the overpaid Jets (Faneca, Richardson)

People don’t remember that there weren’t a lot of free agents in 2010, but the ones that were free got PAID.

Then having signed off on any claims, known or unknown, the union is now suing—again— charging collusion in an uncapped year! Did the players think that the long snappers were all of a sudden going to make $2M per year???

This version of the NFLPA sure looks like the dont like the agreement that they were very careful to read before signing!! Im a union guy 100%– and this smells.

The league had to go to the NFLPA for approval, prior to imposing punishment on the Redskins and Cowboys.

cowboyhater says:
Vinny, your legacy for the most incompetent GM continues to live on.
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Worse than Jerry Jones? Worse than Matt Millen?

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Yep

Just because now two teams who decided to play fast with the agreement lose an appeal the NFLPA says we just NOW found out about it.

To think that all the owners, GMs, League office people and agents kept all this quiet for 2 1/2 years is laughable. That group can’t even keep quiet about a single drug test at the combine for crying out loud.

Even the CIA couldn’t keep that secret.

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If they had merely spent tons of money in the uncapped year there would have been no problem. Problems arose when they used the uncapped year to effect future capped years. Giving bonuses that weren’t prorated into the future.

Just because there wasn’t a posted speed limit doesn’t mean there wouldn’t be repercussions for driving drunk.

The Redskins and Cowboys were NOT penalized for spending too much money. They were penalized for the shady way they structured their deals.

The NFLPA is not going to be able to point to the ‘skins and ‘boys and say that is proof of an unwritten salary cap number.

TL;DR Collusion regarding salaries: yes. Proof of a secret salary cap number: no.

The NFL is going to lose this lawsuit to the NFLPA. And the only two owners not named in the lawsuit are Snyder and Jones.

Rodger, your in over your head messing with Jones and Snyder. They were doing big buisness things while you were still in the mail room.

NFLPA is going to win this lawsuit very easily.

Some of you act like jones and snyder are leading this charge but in reality they really have nothing to do with it. In the spirit of fair play between owners they tried to take advantage of a loophole in the system because they continually pay way to much for players or failed draft picks and are constantly trying to dig themselves out to field a competitive team. These two owners are attention starved and since they cannot get in the media by having good teams they are relegated trying to 1 up the other owners by cheating the system.
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Dude, What are you talking about?? How did they try to one up the other owners??? What system was they trying to take advantage of?? If there isnt a posted speed limit on the road how can you say i was speeding?? So, if there wasnt a salary cap, how did they try to take advantage??? And maybe you dont know anything about business, But attention is everything. And not being able to feild a goodteam. I think the boys have won a few division titles in the past decade. But, I guess your telling me the only way you can be a good team is if you win the superbowl.. So, in that, that means there is only one good team in the NFL per year, SMH…..