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Patrick Willis jumps into the Alex Smith-Cam Newton fray

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When 49ers quarterback Alex Smith used Panthers quarterback Cam Newton as an example of how a player can put up good stats without winning, one of Newton’s teammates jumped to his defense. Now one of Smith’s teammates is entering the fray to side with his quarterback.

Apparently responding to a tweet from Panthers linebacker Jon Beason, 49ers linebacker Patrick Willis took to Twitter to say that Smith is right, and what really counts is winning or losing.

“Wins are Wins I stand with My Qb Alex Smith and all my teammates. I can’t wait for the season,” Willis wrote.

At this point everyone is probably talking past each other on this story, and Smith’s initial comments didn’t seem to be intended as a knock on Newton anyway. But the reality is that while wins are wins, different players contribute to wins differently, and the 49ers’ wins can be attributed more to Willis and their defense than to Smith and their offense. It’s great that Willis wants to stick up for his quarterback, but the fact remains that Newton did more to help his team win than Smith did to help his team win last season — even though Smith’s team won a lot more than Newton’s.

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  1. jbpanthers says: May 26, 2012 3:08 PM

    If wins are wins, then how did Tebow get traded?

  2. nyyjetsknicks says: May 26, 2012 3:13 PM

    Kill that mother f$&ker Patrick Willis!

    -Kenny Powers.

  3. sonoco says: May 26, 2012 3:13 PM

    All Smith wanted to say was that stats don’t matter when you’re 13-3. He didn’t need drag anybody’s name in to it, but he did.

  4. EJ says: May 26, 2012 3:15 PM

    Exactly, If wins were wins then Tebow would still be a bucking Bronco.

  5. taco87 says: May 26, 2012 3:18 PM

    Tebow got traded because defenses figured his game out. And the patriots destroyed the broncos. Bryson’s a fool and the panthers lost because poor defense and ball security on Offense. Newton threw for lots of yards but his turnovers didn’t help the cause with a poor defense.

  6. bing253 says: May 26, 2012 3:19 PM

    Wait doesn’t Alex Smith have a losing record as a starter in his career? Last year was the first time Alex Smith ever won so I don’t get why he’s talking like he’s Tom Brady? Obviously winning is more important than numbers but Alex Smith isn’t the QB who should be talking about winning-leave that to Charlie Sheen.

  7. airbear707 says: May 26, 2012 3:20 PM

    id rather have alex and go 13-3 then have cam and go 6-10….

  8. cytofed says: May 26, 2012 3:20 PM

    put Newton on the Ninners and you have undefeated season. I dont think you can say the same with smith being a Ninners. These players are smart men, why cant they figure this out?

  9. bru308 says: May 26, 2012 3:20 PM

    I’m a 49ers fan…. But Alex, if stats are meaningless, why did your team go after Peyton?

  10. doe22us says: May 26, 2012 3:22 PM

    I will take Cam and his growth potential, tremendous upside over Alex Smith any day. Its not even a question.

  11. ownbay says: May 26, 2012 3:23 PM

    Alex Smith has no business to be calling out other players, dude is marginal at best.

  12. purplecitybirdgang52 says: May 26, 2012 3:23 PM

    Funny I thought offensive lineman are so sopposed to protect there QB’s not there middle linebackers lol

  13. tigers182 says: May 26, 2012 3:23 PM

    jbpanthers says: May 26, 2012 3:08 PM

    If wins are wins, then how did Tebow get traded?
    _____________________________________________________________

    Hey let’s play dumb analogies game.

    If stats are stats, why did the Jets trade for Tebow?

  14. jluns275 says: May 26, 2012 3:23 PM

    Why another Cam Newton apologist story?
    He had a good statistical season, I don’t remember seeing or hearing anybody dispute that.
    It just didn’t translate into alot of wins for his team.
    In 20 years, I’d love to be able to ask Newton if he’d rather have had cool shoe commercials & big stats or a Super Bowl ring.
    Like it or not, Alex Smith is WAY closer to a ring than Newton is, or probably will be for the foreseeable future.
    And no, I’m NOT a 49er fan.

  15. buckeyefan1026 says: May 26, 2012 3:27 PM

    “If wins are wins, then how did Tebow get traded?”

    Perhaps it could’ve been because they acquired one of the best QB’s in the NFL and Tebow’s trade value was likely at its peak?

  16. robsearles8 says: May 26, 2012 3:33 PM

    I respectfully disagree with your assessment of Alex’s contribution to the team last season and I direct your attention to the last 5 minutes of the 49ers v Saints playoff game.

    It wasn’t the defense who took over, it was Cpt. Lil Ankles himself, Alexander “The Great” Smith.

  17. dlong2473 says: May 26, 2012 3:37 PM

    Tebow got traded because peyton manning was signed just like Alex smith would have been traded in peyton manning would have gone to SF. Whoever said kill Patrick Willis needs a head check. If you meant in another form like rock him on the field the maybe you should clearly state that cause kill that mother effer means to commit murder and that’s not cool

  18. blackgallagher says: May 26, 2012 3:41 PM

    I expect an even better season out of Alex Smith this year. All he needed was consistent quality coaching; something he never had until last year.

  19. iced107 says: May 26, 2012 3:42 PM

    Niners never won because of Alex Smith, the Panthers because of Cam Newton.

    Thats the different…Smith is an idiot for opening his mouth. Any two year old can see talent level difference between the two teams offensively and defensively.

  20. goredskins11 says: May 26, 2012 3:43 PM

    You would be blind if you thought Cam Newton had a bad season last year. It was great for a rookie. But, he did throw 17 interceptions. Only five QBs threw more last year. It’s hard for a team to win with that many turnovers. For Cam to take the next step to being a great QB, he is going to have to protect the ball better. As a Reskins fan, I keep hearing other ‘skins fans saying they hope RGIII can be the next Cam. Not me, I hope he doesn’t throw 17 interceptions this year. Rex was one of the five that threw more than Cam last year and I hope RGIII does better than that.

  21. jibanez0810 says: May 26, 2012 3:47 PM

    jbpanthers says:
    May 26, 2012 3:08 PM
    If wins are wins, then how did Tebow get traded?

     Have you heard of a guy called Peyton Manning? I’ve heard he wins a lot of games.

  22. jayniner says: May 26, 2012 5:05 PM

    If Beason was half the player Patrick Willis is, he would do his job so Cam & Co. aren’t constantly coming from behind having to put up ridiculously high numbers in a desparate attempt to NOT get blown out…

    Clean up your own backyard before you go knockin on your neighbors door Beason.

  23. shian11 says: May 26, 2012 5:13 PM

    When the panthers were winning and newton was playing well, then cam newton was great and that’s all you see in the highlights. But when they lost, when he played poorly, he was on the bench with a towel over his head. I understand you have to play. Michael Vick is exciting and donavon mcnabb was exciting and tony romo and Vince young and mark Sanchez and joe flacco. But it also takes leadership, Eli manning, tom Brady, Ben rothlisburger, Arron Rodgers, brad Johnson, Kurt Warner, Trent dilfer, drew breez have all won superbowls over last 15 years with different talent levels, but are also all leaders. I would say that Alex smith and mathew stafford play the part of leaders much better than a cam newton or tony romo

  24. 49er4life says: May 26, 2012 5:20 PM

    Alright, alright, alright, alright!!! Now that the peanut gallery has spoken, let’s try to bring this back into focus, and the PROPER perspective. Because, this thing has been blown all out of proportion by those who easily get offended by a word, or name in this case, within a sentence, rather than take the time to comprehend the meaning of the ENTIRE statement.

    First off, let’s make this point clear . . . Alex Smith was NOT trash talking Cam Newton, or his game. And, he was NOT comparing skill levels, as any casual observer of the game would CLEARLY see, there is NO comparison! Cam Newton is the better, and more gifted, quarterback without an argument, or debate.

    What Alex DID say was, that to HIM, the stat of yards per game is an over-rated statistic. He then gave a very good EXAMPLE to illustrate his point of view. (Last I checked, that’s exactly what you are supposed to do when trying to support a statement.) The FACT is that football is a TEAM, not individual, sport. And, outstanding INDIVIDUAL statistics do not equate to a winning season, let alone to winning a Super Bowl. Just ask Dan Marino. (Uh oh, now I have just offended all you Miami fans, LoL!!!)

    Yes, Cam Newton had a spectacular season last year, lighting up the statistical heavens both through the air, AND on the ground. Very simply put, the man was a BEAST!!! (Doing my best Matt Mayock impersonation) But, his team, in the end, still lost more games than they won, despite his record shattering performances. Last I knew, Cam Newton himself made a statement at one point preferring to have a win, than to have a statistical highlight reel. In the end, a great individual effort in a losing effort still gets chalked up in the loss column. I am will ing to bet Cam woul have gladly given up half of his individual accomplishments in order to have had the TEAM success the 49ers did.

    Next, this notion that Alex Smith had nothing to do with his team’s success last year is absolutely ridiculous!!! No, his stats were not glamorous by any stretch of the imagination. But, they were not only his best ever. They also were better than half of the other quarterbacks in the league. Alex did an effective job running the offense, and taking care of the ball. Had he not, and played the way he has in years past, the 49ers would not have had the year they did. Let’s give credit where credit is due. After all, I do believe it was Alex Smith who went toe to toe with Drew Brees in the playoffs. And, in the end, was a HUGE part of sending the Saints packing.

    All in all, Alex spoke his mind, supported his point of view, made his point, and moved on, without a single negative word aimed at anyone. I’ll take a 150 – 200 yard, 1 touchdown, 0 interception game that results in a team win, over a 350 – 400 yard, 3 touchdown, 2 interception game that results in a team loss any day of the week, and TWICE on Sundays!!!

  25. ninergold says: May 26, 2012 5:23 PM

    I would rather be a 49er fan with Willis leading my team than scam newton leading that non champion panther team all day!
    Wait how many championships does carolina have …… thats right zero. how bout 5 for the scarlet and gold!

  26. prmpft says: May 26, 2012 6:30 PM

    a bunch of folks will be eating their words when smith is who the ‘niners (and everyone else) thought he was when a real QB was lookin’ for work.

  27. beefbus says: May 26, 2012 6:56 PM

    Newton>>>>>Smith

    It’s not close to being a debate. The former was a rookie and shattered all sorts of records, and the latter, took him six seasons to do anything of significance. Decent numbers, but he was sacked a whopping 44 times.

  28. malbosia says: May 26, 2012 6:57 PM

    Alex didn’t have a great year statistically but his team won. Also, he had very few negative plays so compared to other qbs he did do a lot. A good qb is a good decision maker. With such a limited time last off season to learn the offense and with a depleted wr core he did what he had to do to ensure a win, even if sometimes that was to do nothing and throw the ball away. I think this season will be a lot better with all the time under Harbaugh and the addition of Moss, Manningham, A. J. Jenkins and Lamichael James. I really think that James is going to give the Niners the same options the Sproles gives the Saints. James seems to have more talent coming out of college so I believe his ceiling is higher. I’m thinking Alex will have somewhere around 30 tds, 14ints and 3500 yards. I hope I’m right!

  29. billhicks666 says: May 26, 2012 6:58 PM

    airbear707 says:

    “id rather have alex and go 13-3 then have cam and go 6-10….”

    As of right now, 82 people have given this statement the thumbs-down. Absolutely pathetic. Apparently, there’s a significant portion of the NFL-viewing public that cares nothing about winning. For these people, it’s all style and no substance.

  30. millionz4184 says: May 26, 2012 7:02 PM

    I will take Cam and his growth potential, tremendous upside over Alex Smith any day. Its not even a question.

    —————————————————-
    I’d take a Super Bowl ring with Alex Smith over Cam’s growth potential and tremendous upside any day. It’s not even a question. Stats don’t always translate into wins. Hence, Dan Marino, Jay Cutler, Carson Palmer and the list goes on and on. I want to win, not my QB to have good stats. Let’s do both. P.S. He didn’t personally attack Cam Newton. He just said that a good stat year does not translate over to wins like his season.

  31. ezpkns34 says: May 26, 2012 7:23 PM

    All I’ll say is that if Patrick Willis was told his team could have Newton or Smith at QB, that he wouldn’t be picking Smith

  32. funkylovemonkey says: May 26, 2012 7:37 PM

    beefbus says:
    May 26, 2012 6:56 PM
    Newton>>>>>Smith

    It’s not close to being a debate. The former was a rookie and shattered all sorts of records, and the latter, took him six seasons to do anything of significance. Decent numbers, but he was sacked a whopping 44 times.

    ————————————–

    I’m not sure why Smith’s sacks are his fault. If anything that sack number is low because he was able to avoid more then a few sacks with his feet. The 49er O-Line last season was weak last season, giving up the most sacks of any team last season and being in the unfortunate position of giving up a record number of sacks in a single game against the Ravens.

    I certainly don’t want to take anything away from Cam Newton, he had a fantastic season, especially for a rookie. Who knows what he will achieve in the future.

    But, saying that Alex Smith and Cam Newton had a pretty similar season except in one regard.

    Cam Newton – 310/517 60.% – 21 tds to 17 int
    Alex Smith – 273/445 61.3% – 17 tds to 5 int

    Would the 49er defense been able to handle an extra 15 interceptions last season? Sure there were four more tds, but that was 4 tds in 72 more attempts.

    Honestly I would have rather had Alex Smith on the team last season.

    And like others said, it wasn’t the 49er defense that came through in the clutch against the Saints in the playoffs. Drew Brees had the 49er’s offense number and it came down to Alex Smith matching Drew Brees score for score, and Alex Smith did it.

  33. footballfan84 says: May 26, 2012 7:39 PM

    The niners are just a better coached and a better overall team compared to the panthers. Cam Newton is clearly the more superior athlete compared to Alex Smith. I dont think Alex can ever accomplish what Cam did as a rookie. Looks like Alex was in need for some attention. Cry baby.

  34. jg725 says: May 26, 2012 7:47 PM

    This whole debate is ridiculous – cam newton is an amazing athlete that had an excellent rookie season.
    I would however be willing to bet a fair chunk of change that at the end of his career he has more ints than td’s – a lot of rushing yards – maybe even some qb rushing records and not even close to a super bowl win – MAYBE – a couple playoff wins – my 2 cents.
    btw – sounds a lot lot like vick and mcnabb………..

  35. 49er4life says: May 26, 2012 7:57 PM

    To all those hating on Alex Smith (I was at the forefront before last season), here’s a few things to chew on.

    1) He has never had the coaching support, or system consistency, in his career that he has now under Jim Harbaugh and company.

    2) He has never had reliable receivers to throw to the way he does now in Randy Moss, Mario Manningham, Michael Crabtree, and A.J. Jenkins.

    3) He has never had a dynamic play maker to turn to as an outlet in the flat, for a dump off, or in the screen game like he does now in LaMichael James. (i.e. Darren Sproles and Reggie Bush)

    With those points ring made, the jury is still out on what kind of quarterback Alex Smith is ultimately going to be. Fact is, yes it has taken a LONG time, but he has taken steps in the right direction each year, with last year being his biggest step yet. I believe everything is in line for Alex to have a break out year in 2012.

    Let’s not forget, He is a #1 draft pick. One who was chosen, for whatever reason yet to be seen, by the 49ers ahead of Aaron Rodgers. Unfortunately for Alex, he did not get to sit on the bench for 3 years and learn from Joe Montana or Steve Young the way Rodgers did behind Brett Favre. He was thrown directly into the fire, on a bad team, that had no consistency or direction at the coaching position for years . . . UNTIL now that is!!!

    Bottom line is this, Alex Smith had a respectable year last year. But now, he has the opportunity to redeem himself, and show what the 49ers saw in him those many years ago. It is overdue, and there are no more excuses to be had. It’s either put up, or shut up time. Personally, I’d rather have a late bloomer excel at his position when given the right situation , than a bust who just can’t get the job done. The team has been set. The schedule has been made. And now, it is up to Alex Smith to prove his worth, and take the 49ers to the promise land. If he can step up to the task and succeed, this whole Cam Newton fiasco will soon be forgotten.

    Here’s to you Alex, cause I (now) believe you can do it!!!

  36. deetrain11 says: May 26, 2012 8:02 PM

    I’m talking about Cam having 14 rushing td’s to go with his 21 passing tds……so 35 td’s to 17 picks is not a terrible stat line for a ROOKIE. Alex Smith was given MUCH more time to succeed than ANY QB in the HISTORY of the NFL!!!

  37. nflfollower says: May 26, 2012 8:07 PM

    Let’s not forget….. Cam newton may have done more to help his team than Alex smith, but he also did a lot more to HURT his team in terms of turnovers. Acting like turnovers don’t contribute to wins and losses is idiocy.

  38. dfeltz says: May 26, 2012 8:16 PM

    “It’s great that Willis wants to stick up for his quarterback, but the fact remains that Newton did more to help his team win than Smith did to help his team win last season — even though Smith’s team won a lot more than Newton’s.”

    ———————-

    Reasonable minds can differ.

  39. citizenstrange says: May 26, 2012 8:31 PM

    Roethlisberger makes a living on 13-9 wins against crap teams.

    GO STEELERS!

  40. 49ers73 says: May 26, 2012 9:13 PM

    49er4life is bang on here, even if Alex improves marginally the niners are poised to do well here, truth be told Alex has been put in a position to succeed for the first time ever, remember last year he ran the OTA’s…..kid has heart, hope he does well.

  41. pzamora1 says: May 26, 2012 9:15 PM

    Mr Beason just hasnt accepted the fact that the best LB in NFL plays in San Fran…its not Alex’s fault

  42. binarybulge says: May 26, 2012 9:21 PM

    “but the fact remains that Newton did more to help his team win than Smith did to help his team win last season”

    Says you. You must have been blinded by the good stats. He also turned the ball over 15 more times, which is nearly one more turnover a game and one lost possession. SF did a good job minimizing mistakes to keep the scoring low, and Smith did his part perfectly.

    Newton was at home playing Madden while Smith was in the playoffs authoring an awesome comeback vs the powerhouse Saints.

  43. whatswiththehate says: May 26, 2012 9:26 PM

    Alex, it would have been best if you had said that football is a team sport. No matter how good a QB is, he needs the rest of the team to step up and help him win.

    Also, I’m sure Cam’s ints would have been a lot lower if he had actually played like a guy with a decent defense instead of always having to go out and rack up points simply to stay in the game because your defense kept giving the game away everytime they stepped on the field.

    And it’s clear some of you seem to have a different measuring stick for Cam than you do the other QBs because Andy Dalton threw 3-4 ints less than Cam and no one is making much of it..

  44. patmcrotch says: May 26, 2012 9:34 PM

    I’m so sick of the ‘Cam through 17 interceptions’ comment. It’s already been established that the offense played much better than the defense. Had the defense been able to protect a lead, Cam wouldn’t have been forcing throws, trying to come from behind. 82% of his interceptions were in the second half. 70.5% were in the 4th quarter and 59% were in the last 2 minutes. Had the defense been worth anything, they would have been handing the ball to a RB to run the clock out in the 4th qtr.

    I believe the number of games that they DIDN’T have a lead was only like 3. So 13 games he had a lead and the defense failed to hold it. Forcing him to do something different than he did in the first 58 minutes of the game.

  45. funkylovemonkey says: May 26, 2012 9:57 PM

    What’s aggravating about this, and what Beason completely missed, was Alex Smith wasn’t calling out Cam Newton at all. If anything he was calling out the Panther’s defense and pointing out that the 49ers are a better team overall. In the original quote he was defending the fact that he hadn’t piled up the yards last season because in most games he didn’t have to.

    Alex Smith should have simply said that some QBs accumulated yards because they were put in more throwing situations as they played on less talented teams. In this case he was right; Cam Newton was put in a position often late in the game to come out throwing every down because the Panthers were playing from behind. He probably shouldn’t have said anyone’s name in particular, but that doesn’t change the fact that he was right and since they were off the cuff remarks that’s forgivable.

  46. macklinr61 says: May 26, 2012 10:09 PM

    Terry Bradshaw: 187 career games, SEVEN 300 yd games, 4 Super Bowls

    Dan Marino: 260 career games, FIFTY FIVE 300 yard games, zero Super Bowls.

    Why is it so difficult to understand? Stats mean squat. The only thing that matters are WINS.

    No one is comparing anyone. The point is stats are meaningless.

  47. hendeeze says: May 26, 2012 10:44 PM

    Reason #49 why Willis > Beason

    Aside from being the best Mike backer in the league, he also stands by his teammates without making unnecessary fuss over it

  48. sd9er says: May 26, 2012 10:54 PM

    Jon “half a season” I mean Beason needs to get his facts right. Alex was a free agent so he couldn’t of been “CUT” if Manning signed!

  49. danman327 says: May 26, 2012 10:55 PM

    Ask any coach in the NFL who he would choose for his QB Cam or Alex? Cam 32-Alex zilch.
    ‘Nuff said!

  50. catman72 says: May 26, 2012 11:07 PM

    Notice Willis didn’t say Beason was wrong, he just said he stands by his QB, LOL

    P.S. How badly did Willis want Peyton?

  51. carolinamic says: May 26, 2012 11:25 PM

    If winning is the only thing that matters then it’s only one win that really matters and I don’t see that on Smith’s resumè or Cam’s but Cam isn’t name dropping either. Smith needs to stay in his lane.

  52. 49erlifer says: May 26, 2012 11:34 PM

    jbpanthers says:May 26, 2012 3:08 PM

    If wins are wins, then how did Tebow get traded?

    ———————————————————

    Umm let me see Tim Tebow is a horrible QB just ask John Elway

  53. lpdog32 says: May 26, 2012 11:44 PM

    Dude needs to keep his mouth shut. Comparing himself to a rookie? Please. He’s been in the league how long? How many winning seasons? We don’t have a problem with the message but he exercised poor judgement by naming someone specifically.

  54. billsfan1 says: May 27, 2012 12:04 AM

    all these comments sticking up for Newton ( hey like him) but that factis Alex Smith is correct…at one time it would have been laughable to think you may take Eli Manning over Peyton or Tom Brady…. not so sure anymore.

    Nobody is saying Smith is better than Newton but the fact is Smiths season was more of a success than Newtons..

  55. madden1champ says: May 27, 2012 12:09 AM

    Ask any coach in the NFL who he would choose for his team Alex with Willis or Cam and Beason? Alex and Willis 32-Cam and Beason Zilch.
    ‘Nuff said!

  56. ceadderman says: May 27, 2012 12:12 AM

    All y’all can play the ignorant “Who would you rather have” game.

    I look at it like this…

    17/5 vs. 20/17

    Newton cost his team games as much as he won them.

    Smith won 5 Regular season games in come from behind fashion.

    The Defense did it’s job. That’s what they get paid to do. That’s how it’s SUPPOSED to be for all 32 teams.

    But the reality is that Newton put his Defense on an Island more than he helped them. Where Smith helped his Defense and his Defense helped him.

    I’ll take going all the way to the NFC Championship game and losing over 6-10 and having NO shot any day of the year. Anyone that is suggesting that Smith was just along for the ride is talkin out their a55.

  57. youngnyg says: May 27, 2012 12:20 AM

    Alex smith is not a Qb he’s a puppet on a string… He doesn’t throw the ball 15yards… It baffles me that he has the ordasity to call out a qb with his skill abilities…. He will never win a super bowl… Lucky season last year that they got that close….

  58. rabbdogg says: May 27, 2012 12:25 AM

    alex smith always has been and always will be poo poo…the 49ers won with their defense, special teams, running game, and harbaugh’s coaching..the jets did the same thing going to 2 straight afc championship games sanchez first two years..then when the defense and running game wasnt as good..and they had to rely more on sanchez..they sucked…if the 49ers have to rely more on alex smith if the defense has a down year..they wouldnt win the 6 games cam won for the panthers..lets not pretend that 49er team couldnt have won those games with just about ANYBODY at QB that didnt totally suck…cause they would have…ps..to the cam haters..carolina was 1-15 the year before cam got there…they where at the bottom of the nfl in total offense..thats what cam had to work wit..

  59. gpete1962 says: May 27, 2012 12:56 AM

    Cam>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Smith

  60. ibreathefootball says: May 27, 2012 12:56 AM

    tigers182 says:
    May 26, 2012 3:23 PM
    Hey let’s play dumb analogies game.

    If stats are stats, why did the Jets trade for Tebow?

    ————————————-

    It’s because Mark Sanchez stinks up the field and Tebow gives them a better chance to win.

    Sanchez career passer rating: 73.2
    Tebow career passer rating: 75.1

    So better passer rating, and better rushing rating. I think Cam Newton personally is an awesome football player, and would be even better if he stopped making the same costly decisions and not playing as good in the 3rd-4th quarters. Ryan Tannehill did that in college, and half of the Aggies staff got fired for the poor results.

  61. deetrain11 says: May 27, 2012 12:57 AM

    Alex Smith 1 td to 11 int’s his 8 game rookie yr!!

  62. tlaw21 says: May 27, 2012 1:41 AM

    shian11 says:

    When the panthers were winning and newton was playing well, then cam newton was great and that’s all you see in the highlights. But when they lost, when he played poorly, he was on the bench with a towel over his head. I understand you have to play. Michael Vick is exciting and donavon mcnabb was exciting and tony romo and Vince young and mark Sanchez and joe flacco. But it also takes leadership, Eli manning, tom Brady, Ben rothlisburger, Arron Rodgers, brad Johnson, Kurt Warner, Trent dilfer, drew breez have all won superbowls over last 15 years with different talent levels, but are also all leaders. I would say that Alex smith and mathew stafford play the part of leaders much better than a cam newton or tony romo
    __________________________________

    I agree with some of what you are saying but since when was Vince Young exciting to watch???

  63. kenyonsupertramp says: May 27, 2012 2:41 AM

    God called………….” got a Cam jersey.”

    Peyton called……………………………………………………………..

  64. raideralex99 says: May 27, 2012 3:26 AM

    Let’s see 2011 QB ratings …
    Alex Smith was rated #9 … made the playoffs
    Cam Newton was rated #15 …. no playoffs
    Andy Dalton was rated #20 … made the playoffs
    Tim Tebow was rated #28 … made the playoffs

    Yes Cam Newton and Mike Vick are GREAT fantasy QBs … lots of points with their rushing yds and TDs but in the end it all comes down to winning and it’s only a matter of time when all those hits takes it’s toll on those rushing QBs like Vick found out last year.

    Have you guys watched any SBs games over the years … drop back QBs win Super Bowls period.

  65. bigwyte says: May 27, 2012 4:14 AM

    i love how all the 49ers fans are trying to how good alex smith is and how good the 49ers were because they were 13-3 and the panthers were 6-10 i guess everybody forgot that cam newton was a rookie and alex smith was in his 7th season all 49er fans go back and look at alex smith in his rookie season he threw just one touchdown pass to 11 int and that was in 7 starts and the 49ers went 4-12 and scored just 239 points while the panthers in cam newtons rookie season scored 406 points since alex smith became the 49ers QB they havnt scored more than 350 points in a season and thats because alex smith isnt a good quarterback and hes just mad at the fact that cam newton did more in his rookie season than he did he his first in his first 3 seasons

  66. knitrobroncofan says: May 27, 2012 7:59 AM

    I dont think alex smiths’s cam comment meant anything but like always u have to be a little more proffesional with ur comments cuz the media will take anything and run with it… But this has proven all the cam haters still exist…. This kid came in and proved everyone wrong with his performance haters and supporters…. The difference between cam and alex smith is alex is a game manager and cam is a game changer… Its proven that alex smith has to be in a offense that caters to his style in order to have success but the knock on came was that the colleges offense would not transfer into the nfl and look at him now… He is gonna bring a skill set to the game that the elite qbs cant and proven that he can sling the ball better than we thought with a little more experience and less ints we may have a great career to witness

  67. captamerica17 says: May 27, 2012 8:31 AM

    And the reality us that the Niners would swap Smith for Cam in a heartbeat!

  68. brooklynniner19 says: May 27, 2012 8:38 AM

    “But the reality is that while wins are wins, different players contribute to wins differently, and the 49ers’ wins can be attributed more to Willis and their defense than to Smith and their offense.” Dont try and play the 49ers offense! Smith and the offense put the team on their backs and won the first round of the playoffs against the Saints ! So BAM!

  69. theharshestreality says: May 27, 2012 8:43 AM

    Cam did more to help his team win than Smith? Absurd. Which team won more games? Which team was a turnover away from the SB? It’s amazing how people are pro-Newton for his stats and anti-Romo for his. Smith had a better year by pro football standards. A much better year.

  70. brooklynniner19 says: May 27, 2012 8:44 AM

    Its not about the records you idiots! Its about wins. thats the diff/ Ill take A.Smith over Cam selfish ass any day!

  71. axespray says: May 27, 2012 9:17 AM

    niner fans would take joesph addai over barry sanders, smh…

    Cam threw a ton of interceptions cause the entire team asked him to carry them… High Pressure, no off season, crappy team… He kept them in a ton of games, giving everything he had…

    Meanwhile, Alex Smith was playing scared, not that hard to avoid interceptions when you’re too scared to make a man’s throw.

  72. luccabrazzi says: May 27, 2012 10:23 AM

    This is all so stupid, lol. The facts are this: the 49ers are a better football TEAM than the panthers, hence the better record. Newton is a better QB than A. Smith is or ever will be, and he proved that in his first year. Thats it, nothing more, nothing less. Smith played well last year, newton played better. in the end, they both watched the SB at home.

  73. ceadderman says: May 27, 2012 12:54 PM

    deetrain11… “Alex Smith was given MUCH more time to succeed than ANY QB in the HISTORY of the NFL!!!”

    Thank you Mr. NFL Historian for you keen insight.

    Just thought I might point out that there are at least 4 other QBs’ who had as long if not longer.

    Terry Bradshaw- Healthy season for healthy season Bradshaw actually got more time to come into his own. Steelers fans wanted his head on a steel pike for years. Not one or two years either.

    Jim Plunkett
    Steve Young
    Mike Vick

    The last 3 guys may not have stayed with the same teams but healthy season for healthy season they got longer chances.

    I’m not even comparing Smith to any of them, just saying that your assertion that Smith has gotten more chances than anyone is categorically false.

    His rookie season consisted of 9 games and he got his skull kicked in behind a toilet paper OLine. Just like the rest of the guys in the 9er QB Corps.

    His second year he showed pretty good improvement over his rookie season and was the first 9er to EVER take every snap in the game. This is a team that has a history of solid QB play from the likes of Y.A. Tittle, Frankie Albert, John Brodie, Joe Montana, Steve Young and yes even Jeff Garcia. When you set a mark like that on a team with a 58 year history that means something. It’s not Brett Favre Iron Man but for a Sophmore player taking snaps behind TP OLine the 9ers put on the field it says quite a bit about your toughness.

    His 3rd season is where it went off the rails. Taking one too many hits behind a garbage OLine will get you killed eventually. Not even playing half a season was 2-1 before the injury. That injury sidelined him for 2 years. So his career wasn’t even 5 years when he had a pretty solid 2009 campaign where he contributed 10 TDs’ to Vernon Davis’ break out season of 13 Scores. Until Gronk broke the record Davis was tied for most TDs’ from a Tight End in NFL history. That would not have happened with Pie thrower Shaun Hill Starting all 16 games.

    2010 was abysmal but that was more due to the ineffective Head Coach prowling the sideline like he used to as a Linebacker for Da Bears. I like Sing, he’s just in over his head as a Head Coach. Smith got injured in Carolina and that was Sing’s excuse to start Troy Smith who is no longer in the NFL and to apply the Butch Davis QB carousel technique which is such a proven strategy for winning at the professional level right? Such an awesome strategy for team cohesiveness.

    2011 and 5 years later (off the team due to IR for 2) Smith puts in a pedestrian 13-3 takes his team to the Playoffs and puts them on his shoulders to beat Drew Brees at his own game and take the 9ers to the Championship where he put up mirrorlike statistics to the eventual Super Bowl winner Eli Manning.

    Let’s correct this thought process of the 9ers going after Manning. Didn’t happen. Prior to his workout he personally called the 9ers. They’d have been stupid not to fly across the country and see what is what. They threw their hat in the ring yes. But let’s be honest, the only reason Manning called them was because his agent(who happens(ed) to be Smith’s agent) had him call them to drive up his contract stock. With only 2 teams in the hunt that was not going to happen. Especially when neither team was considered to be a playoff contender. The 9ers had the best chance of duplicating their success. Did they go after Manning or was Manning using them? Common sense tells us that Manning was never fully invested to going to the 9ers. So it’s ignorant to use it when knocking Smith.

    But no, sorry not the longest chance for a QB in the NFL. If anything it’s more like an NFL team wanted to see SOME return on the 50 million dollar investment they committed to after they drafted him. Smith even took a paycut to stay with the organization and played on a 1 year deal last year. So it’s not like the 9ers were blindly making offers to keep him around. But if you were a 9er fan you’d know all this. ;)

  74. seahulk9 says: May 27, 2012 1:05 PM

    I would take tebow over Smith. niners blow without their defense. they wont be so lucky this year as they were last. Hawks are taking back the division

  75. joncline79 says: May 28, 2012 12:48 AM

    Why are some people putting cam newton down as far as I know he hasn’t even said any thing he is 100 times better than Alex smith any body who knows football knows this ..cam does his talking on the field so Alex smith needs to worry about his on self and his team and by the way how many rings does Alex smith have hmmmmmm zero going 13 and 3 is awesome but were was Alex at when the super bowl was being play oh yes I for got he was at home just like us watching it

  76. The Overtime Sports Talk Show says: May 28, 2012 7:45 AM

    By game 8 when they are 4-4, Willis will bust out in that T.O. cry in a pair of shades…”That’s my quarterback..”

  77. drew44 says: May 28, 2012 10:56 AM

    Newton did more for his team than Smith did for his!? What about the losses? Newton threw picks and had fumbles that cost his team wins. But newton has a much higher ceiling than smith.

  78. ceadderman says: May 28, 2012 2:39 PM

    Yeah Smith sucks right?

    The 4k yard club from last season…

    Drew Brees,
    Tom Brady
    Matthew Stafford
    Eli Manning
    and Aaron Rodgers

    Okay let’s put this in the correct perspective.

    The QBs’ listed that all threw for more yardage than Alex Smith… Drew Brees(24th ranked Defense), Tom Brady(31st ranked Defense), Matthew Stafford(23rd ranked Defense), Eli Manning(27th ranked Defense) and Aaron Rodgers(Dead last Defense). Coincidence?

    Interceptions for… Drew Brees(14), Tom Brady(12), Matthew Stafford(16), and Eli Manning(16) with only Aaron Rodgers having under 10 picks. Coincidence?

    Then throw in the 9ers +38 turnover ratio?

    Smith is much better than people wish to admit. He protected the ball like a champ and never put the Defense on their heels. You do that your Defense has a lot of real estate to work with and this Defense was opportunistic to reward Smith with an average starting point of our 40yard line instead of 20 or less. For which Smith and Akers rewarded the Defense with less time on the field allowing them to be fresher.

    The Defensive rankings don’t lie. None of the QBs’ that threw for 4k yards would have that statistic right now if their Defenses were ranked between 10 to 20. Great gaudy stats almighty but I’d rather have Wins. Only Green Bay had more Wins than the 9ers did and they got knocked out of the Playoffs by themselves more than the Giants.

    Then look at the WR Corps from each team. All of them YAC producing Receivers. Who besides Davis was the consistent YAC producer? Not a single one of them. Every one of the QBs’ listed had a deep Receiver Corps to throw to. Matt Stafford had 6’5″ DJ Megs to throw to. When you have THAT guy on your team makin you look good, you’re gonna throw for big yards.

    You shehawk fans should chill til your team can put together a winning Record. You honestly think it’s gonna be a cakewalk playin the 9ers? They weren’t the number 4 Defense in the league by accident. Smith didn’t turn over the ball putting them on their heels. I don’t care who your QB is, they will turn over the ball and the 9er D gonna take it away from em.

    Shewhacks takin the Division HAH! In a pig’s eye they will.

    That’s why Baalke and Harbaugh went and picked up Moss, Manningham and Jenkins. No more singling up #15 to take away the Passing game.

  79. seattle49er says: May 28, 2012 10:18 PM

    I doubt the niners win 13 games last year with cam newton as their QB.

  80. seahulk9 says: May 29, 2012 1:27 PM

    you are full of it buddy. the niners would be virtually unbeatable if they had newton… and dont pretend you didnt want manning either.
    oh no we didnt get peyton…….we love you alex smith. all of you smith backers are liars. your own coach was about to let him go to miami or seattle on just the possibility of manning coming to town.

  81. seahulk9 says: May 30, 2012 6:17 AM

    o you will see @cedarman

  82. seahulk9 says: May 30, 2012 6:36 AM

    @cedarman you are prob the funniest dude on planet earth…you must be the one guy I’ve ever seen with an alex jersey on….. it laughable for you to mention smith in with bradshaw plunkett and vick.. HE WAS DRAFTED IN 2005!! and he is nowhere near as talented as any of the qb you named. he’s had one non suck season 7 years.
    last I checked terry bradshaw didnt have 6 years to be terrible..nor vick for that matter. but when those guys came into their own they were special players not AVERAGE GAME MANAGERS AFRAID TO THROW THE FRIGGIN BALL. He’s had 7 years in a crap division and has done just about squat.

  83. seahulk9 says: May 30, 2012 12:15 PM

    and steve young played for the bucs and then backed up montana and when it was his time he hit the ground running…throwing 25 to 30 td’s and rushing for good yardage and 5 or so td’s most years. i doubt any niners fans would rather an alex smith over a steve young. and plunkett is one of the most overrated players of all time.

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