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If Brees sits out in 2012, things get very interesting in 2013

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Recently, Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports reported that, under the CBA, the NFLPA believes Saints quarterback Drew Brees will be entitled to a 44-percent raise in 2013, if the Saints use the franchise tag on him again.  But Brees has available to him a much more potent tactic, if he’s willing to walk away from $16.371 million in 2012.

Article 10, Section 15(c) of the labor deal explains that, if Brees doesn’t play in 2012, he can be tendered as a franchise player once again in 2013.  Though the language is a bit vague as to whether the franchise tender would equate to 120 percent of his 2011 salary or 120 percent of his 2012 tender (which is much higher), Section 15(c) contains a much more troubling provision, for the Saints.    If Brees hold out for all of 2012, the Saints would be prevented from using the exclusive version of the franchise tag on Brees in 2013.

It gets better (or, from the Saints’ perspective, worse).  If Brees never signs the 2012 franchise tender, the compensation in 2013 would drop to one first-round pick and one third-round pick.

While the Saints would have the right to match any offer sheet Brees signs elsewhere in 2013, a new team could put together a monstrous offer — and then the Saints would have to decide whether to finally pay Brees or let him walk away.

The fact that neither the Brees camp nor the NFLPA have leaked this specific tidbit could mean that Brees has no real intention of sitting out the full season, contrary to reports that he won’t sign the one-year tender.  But if July 16 comes and goes without Brees signing a long-term deal and if he decides to exercise his right to not sign the one-year, $16.371 million tender, Brees’ name could be added to the list of options for teams that need quarterbacks in 2013.

Intriguing (for now) possibilities include the Jets, who are always looking for a franchise quarterback, the Chiefs, the Raiders (yeah, G.M. Reggie McKenzie said he’s done trading draft picks, but coach Dennis Allen would be lobbying hard for Brees), the Eagles (this is Mike Vick’s make-or-break season in Philly), the Vikings (oh, the irony), the 49ers, and the Cardinals.

But then there’s the fact the Brees grew up in Texas.  Which could make the Texans and/or the Cowboys load the financial cannon in the hopes of bringing Drew home.

A lot of things have to happen before Brees would sit out the full season.  But circumstances will change as of July 16.  Given that Brees will have a shot at letting the market set his value in 2013 if he sits out for the full year, he could insist after July 16 on an agreement that the Saints won’t use the exclusive tender on him in 2013 — or that they won’t use the franchise tender at all.

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75 Responses to “If Brees sits out in 2012, things get very interesting in 2013”
  1. tommyf15 says: May 27, 2012 3:48 PM

    Here come the tired old “Drew demands an explanation” and “Why isn’t $16 million enough?” posts.

  2. borisbulldog says: May 27, 2012 3:50 PM

    I doesn’t matter if Brees stays or goes.

    It was Williams D that brought NOLA thier first SB! Now that he’s gone the Saints will go back to being the Ain’ts!

  3. kathyisintheroom says: May 27, 2012 3:51 PM

    Maybe Gestapo Goodell will announce that Brees is instantly free from any obligations to the Saints and is free to sign with any team.
    This will be part of a new punishment against the Saints for some imaginary offenses that Goodell will refuse to provide evidence of occuring.

  4. sportmentary says: May 27, 2012 3:54 PM

    It would be great if Brees left the Saints. Boy would Saints fans be up in arms. Ha ha ha ha. Too bad that’s not going to happen.

  5. jmohr107 says: May 27, 2012 3:55 PM

    Let’s be real though — there’s no chance Brees sits out all of 2012.

  6. seanb20124 says: May 27, 2012 3:56 PM

    Brees is gambling, and the house always wins.

  7. latenightroach says: May 27, 2012 3:56 PM

    Oh I get it. The Saints are gonna let Brees hold out for the season, pull an Indy and bomb for Barkley.

  8. cletusvandam says: May 27, 2012 3:59 PM

    Brees will never leave the Saints. He knows the bounty the Saint would put on him would be astronomical. Vilma alone would throw in 50k!

  9. lucky5934 says: May 27, 2012 4:00 PM

    Perhaps Brees is having cold feet about playing without Payton calling the shots. Personally, it is all a smoke screen and the deal will get done… after Brees shows up late for training camp… AND after the 2012 season.

  10. shian11 says: May 27, 2012 4:01 PM

    Who cares!!! Brees is not going to give up a year at his age of pay. I can’t believe you were able to scrounge up 8 paragraphs about nothing that has any significance now, July 16th or 4 weeks into season. I can’t believe you were able to tag 10 teams to a story about nothing. Lockout stories last summer were more interesting than this. I am impressed that someone was able to write a full 8 paragraph story on a quarterback and not mention the jets!! Oh wait, guess not

  11. tommyf15 says: May 27, 2012 4:01 PM

    latenightroach says: The Saints are gonna let Brees hold out for the season, pull an Indy and bomb for Barkley.

    Don’t let anyone kid you- Matt Barkley is a good prospect, but nowhere near the once-in-a-decade prospect that Luck was.

  12. higgy1 says: May 27, 2012 4:02 PM

    The owners should all “Collude” and black ball his ass, F these guys. They all end up getting there money and then cry poor mouth when the windfall ends !

  13. goldrush36 says: May 27, 2012 4:03 PM

    It’s funny people think he will not sit out the season. He may not, BUT he was seriously injured while playing under the tag in San Diego and it hurt his stock incredibly. You really think he takes that chance AGAIN?

  14. rabbdogg says: May 27, 2012 4:05 PM

    wishful thinking

  15. shian11 says: May 27, 2012 4:05 PM

    “if breed sits out in 2012. Things get very interesting in 2013″

    If the nfl plays in 2012, things get very interesting in 2013

    If the sun comes out tonight, things will get very interesting tomorrow”

  16. SeenThisB4 says: May 27, 2012 4:05 PM

    Brees isn’t going anywhere, he’ll sign and retire a Saint.

  17. skoobyfl says: May 27, 2012 4:06 PM

    He should sign the $16 M offer & enjoy the good life.

  18. goldrush36 says: May 27, 2012 4:06 PM

    latenightroach says: May 27, 2012 3:56 PM

    Oh I get it. The Saints are gonna let Brees hold out for the season, pull an Indy and bomb for Barkley.

    _____________________________________________

    LOL I like that. I personally think Barkley will be real legit in the NFL. However USC’s propensity to create busts (everyone else) to decent (Palmer) QB’s on the NFL level….. I would hate to be the GM that needs to pull the trigger on this one lol. History is just not on their side

  19. bigdawg24 says: May 27, 2012 4:11 PM

    If I am Scott Pioli, I am on the phone trying to make a trade for Drew Brees, and offer him a long-term contract. The Cheaps have the cap space… they need the QB!

  20. kwgator says: May 27, 2012 4:19 PM

    More TEBOW less BREES please

  21. dsarge21 says: May 27, 2012 4:31 PM

    Brees on the Eagles would be something to see.

  22. tommyf15 says: May 27, 2012 4:33 PM

    goldrush36 says: USC’s propensity to create busts (everyone else) to decent (Palmer) QB’s on the NFL level.

    Matt Leinart and…who? Unless I’m forgetting someone or we’re going all the back to Todd Marinovich.

  23. ncarolinarn7 says: May 27, 2012 4:37 PM

    If that’s the case hellooooooo Carolina Panthers NFC South Champions!

  24. goldrush36 says: May 27, 2012 4:41 PM

    tommyf15 says: May 27, 2012 4:33 PM

    goldrush36 says: USC’s propensity to create busts (everyone else) to decent (Palmer) QB’s on the NFL level.

    Matt Leinart and…who? Unless I’m forgetting someone or we’re going all the back to Todd Marinovich.

    ________________________________________

    Mark Sanchez, John David Booty, and yeah we can go all the way back to Marinovich. Palmer was the only good one lol

  25. goldrush36 says: May 27, 2012 4:42 PM

    I guess yeah can’t really call them all busts due to draft position but none of them were any good

  26. rubberinnertube says: May 27, 2012 4:49 PM

    tommyf15,
    let us not forget the Sanchize…

  27. georgiavol91 says: May 27, 2012 5:05 PM

    Why on earth would NO pay Brees an average salary of more than the tag with increases over the next three years? Like every other player, he is one hit away from being a WalMart greeter (albeit, the one in Beverly Hills). Brees is showing that he is no more or less than any other NFL diva. A diva with a surgically reconstructed throwing shoulder.

  28. tommyf15 says: May 27, 2012 5:06 PM

    goldrush36 says: Mark Sanchez, John David Booty, and yeah we can go all the way back to Marinovich. Palmer was the only good one lol

    I’m not crazy about Sanchez but it’s too early to call him a bust IMO.

    Booty was a fifth rounder so it’s hard to call him a bust.

  29. bucforever says: May 27, 2012 5:07 PM

    As a Bucs fan I can only smile when bad things happen to the Saints. That said , I have always had great respect for Brees as a player and a man of faith. New Orleans is lucky to have him and he has given back much to the community. If he is allowed to leave it would be a great loss not only to the team but the city and state as well. I am sure he will do what he feels is best for him and his family and I wish them all the best.

  30. dlc618 says: May 27, 2012 5:10 PM

    See ya Drew. It’s been fun while you were cool. Let’s see what Chase can do.

  31. frankdatank23 says: May 27, 2012 5:14 PM

    Don’t let anyone kid you- Matt Barkley is a good prospect, but nowhere near the once-in-a-decade prospect that Luck was.
    ————————————————————-

    who’s kidding ? you may be kidding yourself if you think Luck is that unique. His strength is his awareness… his readiness…. things that can be aquired. Alot of people like Barkley more than Luck, i for one am undecided, but think Stafford was a better prospect than both. No i’m not lions fan.

    As for Brees, it may be in his best interests to just demand a trade or threaten to hold out. Remember, New Orleans wasn’t his first choice when he signed there. If they’re hesitant to pay him he could just want out.

  32. tommyf15 says: May 27, 2012 5:22 PM

    georgiavol91 says: Why on earth would NO pay Brees an average salary of more than the tag with increases over the next three years?

    Otherwise he won’t play, and the Saints need him.

    Like every other player, he is one hit away from being a WalMart greeter

    Using that logic they should just drop the franchise tag and let him become a free agent as opposed to giving him a guaranteed $16 million for 2012.

  33. kgun80 says: May 27, 2012 5:30 PM

    Really?? Are the Saints kidding? You have a top 4 QB.. Im a Bills fan and in case the Saints don’t remember.. It’s not easy to find a Franchise QB.

  34. stairwayto7 says: May 27, 2012 5:36 PM

    Brees to Arizona and throwing to Fitz and Floyd indoors! Watch out…

  35. vikesfansteve says: May 27, 2012 5:37 PM

    He also took the Saints from 2-14 to the NFC Championship in his first yr. 3 NFC title games, a SB win. Many people wanted the Vikings to get him. The dude is awesome.

  36. maximusprime107 says: May 27, 2012 5:49 PM

    Still baffled that the Saints won’t pay the man, he made your team relevant, and brought you a super bowl

    Joke organization

  37. txxxchief says: May 27, 2012 5:54 PM

    I’ll say it once again. Brees will be traded to KC and get a long term contract with the Chiefs. A QB is the missing part that is preventing a Chiefs championship ru.! The Saints are done for at least this season and next. Drew knows this.

  38. tialen says: May 27, 2012 6:15 PM

    I don’t get it, can’t he just retire, and then the Saints wouldn’t have any claim on him next year?

  39. bucsfan5000 says: May 27, 2012 6:17 PM

    “With the first pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the New Orleans Saints select, Matt Barkley, Quarterback, USC.”
    -Roger Goodell

  40. mcaismyfavoritebeastie says: May 27, 2012 6:31 PM

    He was paid a quality FA salary when he left San Diego. I still love the guy as an NFL QB, but drop the holier than thou act.

  41. philsgoodman says: May 27, 2012 6:35 PM

    USC QBs:

    Palmer was flying high until he got injured, Booty was not a high pick, Sanchez was a one year starter and Marinovich was on crack. Are you really going to shy away from Barkley just because Matt Leinart was a bust 7 years ago? That doesn’t make sense to me.

    How about Matt Cassel. He couldn’t even win a starting job at USC and he was an outright steal as a 7th round pick.

    There aren’t many schools who have their QB products starting for 3 NFL teams at the same time. That’s awfully impressive.

  42. archetypeobscure says: May 27, 2012 6:43 PM

    I can’t understand why the Saints aren’t doing everything they can to make this guy happy. He turned that team from a laughingstock into one of the most exciting teams in football. He’s worth the money.

  43. indyspeedo says: May 27, 2012 6:52 PM

    Once again PM was called a greedy swamp boy. Why isn’t anybody bashing Brees in the same fashion. He hasn’t done nearly as much for the game as PM has. Oh I forgot he single handedly recovered the New Orleans area after Katrina. I think the Manning Boys did their fair share for the area that they can truly call home.

  44. geo1113 says: May 27, 2012 7:31 PM

    He turned that team from a laughingstock into one of the most exciting teams in football.
    ——————
    I am not going to deny that Brees has been a huge part of the success. However, Sean Payton came on board at the same time. Would the Saints have become the team they are without him? I don’t know. But I do know that Payton’s decision to do the onside kick at the beginning of the second half of the Super Bowl gave the Saints the momentum to win the game. Winning doesn’t happen in a vacuum.

  45. nawlinssaints1956 says: May 27, 2012 7:41 PM

    Mike, you need to find something else to focus on. No one outside the Saints organization or Drew’s inner circle really knows what is going on. If this gets to July 16, then speculate; anything else is just yada….

  46. SparkyGump says: May 27, 2012 7:51 PM

    It’s amazing seeing the Saints disrespecting Brees. There’s a saying you can be penny wise and pound foolish. This is easily one of those times.

  47. larryed says: May 27, 2012 7:58 PM

    I like the retirement bit. What if DB says – I’m thinking of just retiring. Think the Aints would start negotiating then? I thought Manning should have threatened retirement if he wasn’t allowed to go for a perfect season a couple of years ago.

  48. packerfan12 says: May 27, 2012 8:16 PM

    I think the Saints started this when they let him throw 657 times last year. They got him to break the record for yards in a season, statistically he was one of the best quarterbacks ever, so he think he deserves that money (as I think hes earned it too).

  49. Lonely Libertarian says: May 27, 2012 8:26 PM

    Every dollar they pay him is a dollar less they can spend on putting together a quality team…

    Florio did a hatchet job a while back on how Greedy Ben was for tying up all those salary cap dollars and preventing the Steelers from signing free agents…

    Last I checked Ben has one more ring than the most overrated QB in the league…

  50. usmutts says: May 27, 2012 9:02 PM

    Finally, PFT is slowly coming around to what I’ve been saying for many weeks. The 2013 season will find Sean Payton as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys and Drew Brees as their starting quarterback. Drew will sit out 2012.

    Three things have been in instrumental is this view: 1. Loomis totally disrespected Brees when he said Brees was not considered by the Saints to be a top tier quarterback. What a stupid insult directed at a man like Brees. There is no way to take that back. 2. The bounty punishments sent Payton out for a year and home to Dallas where he now lives and once coached, while removing good Saints defensive players for long stretches. 3. The Saints continue disrespecting Drew by quibbling endlessly about his new contract, apparantly trying pay him less than his record says he’s worth.

  51. Revolution22 says: May 27, 2012 11:03 PM

    Don’t let anyone kid you- Matt Barkley is a good prospect, but nowhere near the once-in-a-decade prospect that Luck was

    Tommy, we’re not even in Pre-Season. You’re puttin a lot of stock in Luck. Not to mention the colts have lost Garcon, Saturday, Clark, and a couple other cogs.

  52. covercorner says: May 27, 2012 11:36 PM

    People say players who want more money are greedy. What about teams seeking public money to build a new stadium?

  53. petehemlock says: May 27, 2012 11:37 PM

    He’s asking for too much. He’s OK. Hey Drew, How’s your road record? How have you done on grass? How, exactly, do you think you’re worth Brady Manning money?

  54. saintsfan26 says: May 28, 2012 1:11 AM

    Mickey Loomis is one of the best GMs in the game. He does have some leverage in this and he is not going to cave easily. He knows the type of competitor Brees is and is using that against Brees. Brees wants to be there but is asking too much. They need to find a happy middle, get the deal done and start thinking about the superbowl in New Orleans.

  55. goldrush36 says: May 28, 2012 1:46 AM

    philsgoodman says: May 27, 2012 6:35 PM

    USC QBs:

    Palmer was flying high until he got injured, Booty was not a high pick, Sanchez was a one year starter and Marinovich was on crack. Are you really going to shy away from Barkley just because Matt Leinart was a bust 7 years ago? That doesn’t make sense to me.

    How about Matt Cassel. He couldn’t even win a starting job at USC and he was an outright steal as a 7th round pick.

    There aren’t many schools who have their QB products starting for 3 NFL teams at the same time. That’s awfully impressive.

    _________________________________________
    Something tells me you missed the comment right below it that says:
    “I guess yeah can’t really call them all busts due to draft position but none of them were any good”

  56. bangitfootball says: May 28, 2012 8:19 AM

    The Saints gave Brees a huge contrcat when he was untested and coming off major surgery. How quickly he forgets. Im taking the under in Saints total wins in Vegas

  57. electionconfidential says: May 28, 2012 9:40 AM

    His total income will probably be lower if he sits out a year. Unless of course he gets hurt again while playing under the tag which is possible. I think his big problem right now is that he’s blowing that whole image of being NOLA’s best buddy. Most people in New Orleans will never see $16 Million in their whole lives, but he’s saying it’s too little in a year where the team has been crippled by league penalties… He might ought to worry more about the public perception down there…

  58. capitaloffense says: May 28, 2012 10:01 AM

    Umm…to the fool who said he isn’t worth Brady or Manning money, he has put up comparable if not better numbers than ALL of the elite QBs since he’s been back.

    2011 Quick Facts:

    1st in YDS
    1st in CMP%
    1st in TDs
    2nd in QBRating

    Brees is at the very least equal (if not better than) all the elite QBs numbers wise. The only thing Brady and E. Manning have on Brees is rings. The rest of the elite QBs have one. He is top 3 at the most important position on the field WITHOUT QUESTION. Some things are not even debatable.

    “I guess men lie, women lie, but numbers don’t” -Jay-Z

  59. cleonslamminsalmon says: May 28, 2012 10:20 AM

    capitaloffense says:
    May 28, 2012 10:01 AM
    Umm…to the fool who said he isn’t worth Brady or Manning money, he has put up comparable if not better numbers than ALL of the elite QBs since he’s been back.

    2011 Quick Facts:

    1st in YDS
    1st in CMP%
    1st in TDs
    2nd in QBRating
    ———-
    A couple more “quick facts”-Brees threw about 150 more passes than Rodgers. Rodgers 1 Brees 0 in 2011.

  60. chuckxx says: May 28, 2012 11:08 AM

    He’ll sign.

  61. tcco007 says: May 28, 2012 11:38 AM

    The Chiefs should strike NOW. What do they lose 2 first round draft picks? How does that hurt the youngest team in the NFL? They are a premier QB from being a division champion. Brees played in the AFC West and knows the division and he has tremendous weapons in place already.

    Come on KC show some fortitude and offer him 5 years $100 million with $67 million guaranteed this weekend.

  62. cowboycjn says: May 28, 2012 12:32 PM

    cleonslamminsalmon says:
    May 28, 2012 10:20 AM
    A couple more “quick facts”-Brees threw about 150 more passes than Rodgers. Rodgers 1 Brees 0 in 2011.
    = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
    Who gives a rats A$$ if he threw for 150 or 1000 times more than any other QB. So if A.Rodgers didn’t have a qualified line to protect him and he was scared to throw the ball, is that Brees’ fault?
    If Brees had the protection and knew he could connect with his passes – why not if that wins games?
    HEADLINES: “Franchitti stamped his name in the record books by winning his third Indy 500 on Sunday” ; So if we say, “Oh-yea he only won because he was going faster that the rest of the cars and drivers on the track. . DUH . . you think so? Thats about how much sense your statement makes. Heres your sign, Mr. Smarty!

  63. dontcallmepete says: May 28, 2012 1:10 PM

    I love all you idiots who want to call these players “greedy” Who are you to say? What’s keeping you from going out and playing for “free” Oh, wait, I know…you can’t play and you’re jealous of the guys who can play.

    If he’s so greedy then why don’t the Saints just kick him to the curb and pay somebody else less? I’m a Falcon fan and hope he stays out. But there is no Santa Claus…Drew’s worth the money and if he were on the market he’d get what he wants.

  64. 49ersallday says: May 28, 2012 1:18 PM

    borisbulldog says:
    May 27, 2012 3:50 PM
    I doesn’t matter if Brees stays or goes.

    It was Williams D that brought NOLA thier first SB! Now that he’s gone the Saints will go back to being the Ain’ts!

    YOUR KIDDING RIGHT? PLEASE TELL ME UR KIDDING?

  65. blasterpastor says: May 28, 2012 1:58 PM

    If the Saints don’t re-sign Brees, get ready for the brown paper bags to come out again along with the “Aints” tag!

  66. okemon says: May 28, 2012 2:56 PM

    so many people just like to dump their trash on the saints team… The saints can and will make it back to the SB… the idea that if a coach is gone they will never make it back to the super bowl is insane. I don’t think these people are really insane… they just like to hate and dump insults on another team.

  67. ceadderman says: May 28, 2012 3:00 PM

    It would be abject stupidity for Brees not to play in 2012. So what if it makes it more difficult for New Orleans to keep him in 2013. You’re only as good as your last game. Well sports fans, Brees’s last game was a big ole L. With an Offense that had more talent on it than the team that they lost to. To a QB that a lot of people claimed was a dead Indian in the NFL.

    Sitting out the season would do more harm than good to Brees future. I don’t care about the Yards he threw for this last season. The truth of the matter is that the Saints Defense was the 24th ranked Defense in the league and part of that had much to do with Brees throwing more leading to 16 Regular Season Interceptions. Personnel men round the league know these statistics. They’ll go after Brees cause he has a history of success, but don’t be surprised if teams like the 9ers would take a Pass on that. Especially if their guy has another solid season.

  68. 11jlacy says: May 28, 2012 5:01 PM

    Like Mr Benson said the deal will get done!!!!!

  69. autumnwindindc says: May 28, 2012 5:20 PM

    Does this in any way, shape or form resemble Carson Palmer’s situation with Cincinnati before being traded for a King’s Ransom to the Raiders?

  70. oldbyrd says: May 28, 2012 5:44 PM

    I sure am glad Im not a Saints fan.

  71. coacheson says: May 28, 2012 6:29 PM

    Of course he’s worth the money. Especially after Mario’s record. Look at Indy and tell me that couldn’t easily happen to New Orleans which has a much longer record as a door mat than a contender. This year he is expect to coach as well as lead his team. This year’s contract should be equal to the highest paid player plus the coach’s salery. He’s been under valued since he played for Purdue. Second round draft choice give me a break. He’s work through every hardship and he’ll work through this. Drew Brees is the New Orleans Saints and deserves every bit of what he asks. Look at his stats at his loss to San Francisco and tell me he is not the best player in the NFL. In five years he won’t be but for now pay him what he’s worth. That’s ticket sells, concessions, and TV time.

  72. coacheson says: May 28, 2012 6:32 PM

    Morino’s

  73. mistlethrush1 says: May 28, 2012 7:20 PM

    He’s asking for too much. He’s OK. Hey Drew, How’s your road record? How have you done on grass? How, exactly, do you think you’re worth Brady Manning money?

    If you take the time to compare records for the past five years, Brees stands up just fine next to Brady and Manning. The numbers speak for themselves and it’s not like they’re secret or anything.

  74. bootspur says: May 28, 2012 7:37 PM

    I used to respect Drew Brees, now I can’t stand him he is NO better than any of those other GREEDY punks, in fact Brees may even be worse. Here is a guy who has been handed the keys to the City of New Orleans, and who will have opportunities out of the WAZOO in that city after he retires, and yet he wants to HOLD UP the team that gave him a second chance after a nearly career ending injury, and a couple of FAT CONTRACTS TO BOOT!
    *
    I know it won’t happen, but I wish just once one of these teams would tell a QUARTERBACK to go EFF himself!

  75. meanmark says: May 28, 2012 11:39 PM

    They’ll get the contract worked out. If not, he’ll sign the tender and play for the $16 million. He won’t like it necessarily, but he’d be a fool to turn down the chance to make that much money.

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