-Well, duh. That’s the only way to drive the getaway car.

My argument is that a 24y old is not “just a young kid.”

When I was 24, I had completed 2y active duty as a Field Artillery officer and was working my first civilian job as a degreed chemist. Many 24y olds are captains/O3 and very responsible.

Fairley’s problems, as many of the listeauxs have pointed out, stem from his attitude, not his age.

Think of Cecil “The Diesel” Collins and look where he is now.

The allegations are he was doing 100MPH, while intoxicated, with no proof of insurance (which is not the same as not having insurance and will be dropped as soon as he appears in court showing he had insurance, I digress) and with an open container.

He doesn’t get a pass. He needs to be accountable. BUT what if he blew .06, it was an empty beer can and he was just speeding?

Kind of blows the seriousness of the accusations away. Time will tell what exactly was going on and I’m sure he’s going to get 4 games for this offseason, but this is a young man who is doing what young men tend to do. He needs to grow up, just like some of the other guys on this team. That in no way makes him a bust or any of the other nonsense people on this site are claiming.

So haters can hate, but they are ignoring the facts. ———————————————————————————————————————————————- so what your saying is that the lions are going to win anyway? and that fairly isn’t expected to improve this year? as a past first round selection? and of course it’s not the coach’s fault, we all know some players don’t realize what they have until it’s gone right? but with all the problems the lions have had if the coach and GM, had some brass they might start thinking about teaching these young players that they represent the lions even in the offseason. and have classes to help them learn how to act with all that money. no one’s perfect but to say this doesn’t effect your teams future is ignorant.

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Harbaugh has a history of making mistakes, and repeating mistakes. We can go back to Harbaugh breaking his hand after punching Jim Kelly in the head to show he is a hot head. Schwartz has no such history. None. So when a 49er fan tries to paint Schwartz as a enabler or a bad example for getting in a first time scuffle with a guy that has a long history of being a loose cannon, it’s quite appropriate to call out Harbaugh’s history, no matter how far back.

Aldon Smith is a star player, Fairly was injured and didn’t come close to contributing what Smith did last season. So, Aldon Smith stupidity is much worse in terms of how it could effect the team. A DUI is a DUI. Someone can get killed at 45 mph as they can at 100 mph if there is a drunk behind the wheel. It’s the same offense in my book. Plenty of first time DUI “offenders” learn the hard way.

Heck, I could stretch it and say that Fairly had some character questions going to the Lions so no one should be surprised. He was a lost cause. However, Smith was a choir boy until he went to the 49ers?

In any case, it’s makes no sense to try to blame either coach for the behavior of their players.

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what exactly is happening regularly with the Lions? All three of the guys who were arrested in the last few months were rookies last season, and Fairly the only one that really contributed in 2011. These aren’t star players making bad decisions, like say Aldin Smith. The Lions are filled with plenty of character guys who have a much better influence in the locker room.l and onthe the field. To think Schwartz needs to change his approach just to put on a show is unfair to the other 50-6o guys who are more likely to pull these guys up then to get pulled down by three knuckle heads.
* it’s ALDON Smith, not “Aldin”.
* i’d say that 16 sacks on one of the leagues best defenses is considered to be contribution to the team.
* Everyone who drinks and drives is an idiot and should be punished – without excuses.
* both Shwartz and Harbaugh have intense personalities and won’t be too popular outside of the people that support their teams. If Harbaugh was the coach of the Lions, and Shwartz coached the 9ers, the same would hold true.

This situation is bigger than football, so the bias should be left out of it. A DUI is an irresponsible thing to do by anyone, no matter who they are.

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Agreed. Anyone who drinks and drives is an idiot. Aldon (sorry for the disrespect of misspelling his name) Smith is a star player, that is my point. He was a major contributor to the 49er defense and his idiot behavior damages the 49ers more than Fairly’s idiot behavior. Schwartz isn’t somehow letting the loonies run the asylum because three young players decided to do stupid stuff on their private time. There is a management philosophy to praise in public and punish in private. To address Fairly’s problem as a team problem would be stupid, and to further Fairly’s public humiliation would also be counter productive. In this case it’s best to let the league do the punishing, so if Fairly turns his attitude for football around, his relationship with the head coach won’t be strained.

It’s SCHWARTZ not Shwartz, if you are going to be particular about spelling someone’s name, don’t screw up another name in the same post you correct another’s spelling.

While Harbaugh and Schwartz are intense that is where the similarities end. Their personalities are nothing alike.

Yes, Fairley is stupid.
Yes, Fairley needs to be punished and helped.
Does this affect the Lions win/loss this coming season? Not in the least bit. Nothing lost here, he didn’t contribute anything last year either.
Is the coach and/or management responsible for Fairley doing what he did? That’s a joke – of course they are NOT.

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The fact remains that the Lions still have less arrests since the year 2000 than any other team in the NFC North.

So haters can hate, but they are ignoring the facts.

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But the Lions are way ahead in quality of arrests. You know, the kind of offenses that get people killed.

1. the trooper was white and had shown no respect.
2. the gas pedal stuck to the floor due to a can of beer being logdged there, so there is a reason for the excessive speed.
3. It was past his momma’s curfew and he was trying to get home before she found out.
4. He pays a lot of taxes and has the right to drive faster than the rest of us.
5. Its a Cadillac Escalade that only goes a 100 or more.
6. He was upset over the supreme court vote coming up on ObamaCare.
7. He thought he was heading for training camp in Detroit.

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This is funny and so true

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* it’s ALDON Smith, not “Aldin”.
* i’d say that 16 sacks on one of the leagues best defenses is considered to be contribution to the team.
* Everyone who drinks and drives is an idiot and should be punished – without excuses.
* both Shwartz and Harbaugh have intense personalities and won’t be too popular outside of the people that support their teams. If Harbaugh was the coach of the Lions, and Shwartz coached the 9ers, the same would hold true.

This situation is bigger than football, so the bias should be left out of it. A DUI is an irresponsible thing to do by anyone, no matter who they are.

Fairley never realized that state troopers in the South actually do other things than escort head coaches from the sidelines to the locker rooms.
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The trooper that did this at Tiger Stadium is now head trooper of the Louisiana State Police – and he still escorts Les. A nice guy, too.

I can see this with the Lions as it starts from the top and Jim Schwartz can’t control himself or his players on the field, how is he going to control them off the field…

Character means little in this game, nothing new here.

If a young man comes out of college with a maturity issue, giving him $X millions isn’ going to make that better.

IMHO, teams that put emphasis on measuring maturity end up with better long-term draft results.
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Nothing screams $$$$ like a new Escalade coming up on you from behind going a hundred in the wee hours of the morning.