Is that the evidence that Saints fans and Vilma wanted?

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Just to be clear this isn’t evidence. It’s a report from Yahoo from unnamed league sources.

If there is a ledger it should be shown to the NFLPA. You can’t say you are protecting a “snitch” showing documents.

Is that the evidence that Saints fans and Vilma wanted? If they could comprehend what that means, maybe but they will still be in denial. At least Florio and other naysayers will not have what they wanted. This is this just the tip opf the iceberg. I’m already laughing at Aints fans and it won’t stop for a while.

Why did anyone think the NFL didn’t have a mountain of evidence. Vilma’s lawsuit is frivolous.
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This is neither an iceberg, nor a mountain. This is a pffft.

…after being routinely lied to by our own government, most people don’t have a lot of patience with overpaid athletes, their union reps or their agents…..
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.. or NFL executives.

Better to just accept it and move on at this point.

2. Who will be the first reporter to have the guts to put injuries to Saints players during 2006 – 2009 under a microscope to see if there were any bounty programs run by other teams against them?

Or is there just such a herd mentality in the sports press – especially those who work for organizations in bed with the NFL for their broadcasting livelihood – that no one will ask such questions?

Thank God Mike Florio decided to start asking these type questions, and not swallowing the Park Avenue Kool Aid.

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That’s a bad comparison. He was essentially paying his players extra money to hurt the opposing players.

So a better comparison would be… Would you be arrested if you hired someone to murder another person? And the answer to that question, is yes!

Ok, I’ll make this simple. To the NFL Union known as the NFLPA, your players’ respective contracts with their respective teams, no matter what they say, removes the employers right to fire or reprimand an employee without presenting the actual evidence at the time of firing or reprimanding the employee. Specifically at the time of firing or reprimanding the employee. Beyond that is beyond that, and there are ways of possibly obtaining or being given the actual evidence.

On a personal opinion note, the other day Vilma said he didn’t go talk to the league when they offered when they notified him of his suspension, because he asked them to hand over the evidence to himself and his lawyer(s?) first and they didnt. He never followed through with a reasonable approach, giving the league an immediate ultimatum in place where a ‘complete lack of both exercise and faith in the process set forth by both law and standard regarding everyday business practices and standards’ and possible insubordination but not doing what a reasonable employee of any american company would do if both notified while not at work of a reprimand which included an immediate suspension from work and being told of an option to come into work and discuss the allegations and punishment, which would be to go to their work on the specified date at the specified time to discuss the allegations and punishment, is what my opinion is the court will say.

Funny how nobody here has seen any kind of evidence (you know…because none has been released) and yet they have already tried and convicted the Saints.

And no, i’m not a Saints fan. Be careful how you people run your mouths, who knows who’ll be stepping forward next about one of your teams. And I doubt a single one of you are man enough to own up to your mouths when it happens.

Why did anyone think the NFL didn’t have a mountain of evidence. Vilma’s lawsuit is frivolous.

Also, the flip-side question is, how did it wind up in the hands of the investigators? Did some disgruntled individual in the organization steal it and kept it to get back at the team?