Comments on: Burbank retains jurisdiction as to Hargrove http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/04/burbank-retains-jurisdiction-as-to-hargrove/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Wed, 22 May 2013 03:18:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: sdisme http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/04/burbank-retains-jurisdiction-as-to-hargrove/#comment-1818102 Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:25:47 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=804076#comment-1818102 What we also now know it the reason Goodell didn’t punish the 22-27 players is he knew the appeal would fall out of his jurisdiction.

]]> By: jedidev http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/04/burbank-retains-jurisdiction-as-to-hargrove/#comment-1817839 Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:13:01 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=804076#comment-1817839 bigjdve says:Jun 4, 2012 10:25 AM

How come the players aren’t suing De Smith?

He is the reason that nobody can touch Goodell.

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It’s almost like Goodell had this in his sights while negotiating the CBA (perhaps why he sat on this for several years before taking action). Had he gone through with a railroad job like this before the CBA, there’s no way the NFLPA would have allowed him the power he has now.

]]> By: bigjdve http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/04/burbank-retains-jurisdiction-as-to-hargrove/#comment-1817642 Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:34:29 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=804076#comment-1817642 saintsfan26:

We know that the Saints admitted to the bounty program. Not just a pay for play, but the bounty program when they took responsibility for their actions.

The harshness of the penalties are not only based on the actions but the fact that there was a cover-up.

At this point I would suggest that they stop complaining and just take the punishment, if for no other reason then it looks like they will lose more in the legal fight than they would’ve made for the time they were suspended.

Regarding Stallworth, I think that Goodell took in to account the other penalties that he had such as jail, fines, and payouts to the family. Are bounties equal to a death no, however compounded will sooner or later add up to the same amount of time.

]]> By: saintsfan26 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/04/burbank-retains-jurisdiction-as-to-hargrove/#comment-1817567 Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:03:32 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=804076#comment-1817567 At least we all know what really happened now. The Saints had a pay-for-performance program. The same type of program that all other teams have and have even admitted to. But the Saints werent punished solely on that fact alone. They were punished so severely because of intentionally trying to injure opponents. We know that Goodell’s evidence of pay-for-performance is strong. But we also know that his evidence for Saints intentionally trying to injure opponents is weak. Its weaker than weak. Its laughable. Therefore we can all agree that the punishments do not fit the crime. Donte Stallworth killed somebody and got 1 year suspension. Vilma paid somebody for an interception and got a 1 year suspension. What a joke.

]]> By: thingamajig http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/04/burbank-retains-jurisdiction-as-to-hargrove/#comment-1817379 Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:08:56 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=804076#comment-1817379 Burbank interpreted the CBA for Vilma, NFLPA and all their smart lawyers.

]]> By: bigjdve http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/04/burbank-retains-jurisdiction-as-to-hargrove/#comment-1817315 Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:25:20 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=804076#comment-1817315 How come the players aren’t suing De Smith?

He is the reason that nobody can touch Goodell.

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