Let me be the dummy who asks why the NFLPA is acting like they have any right to get any info out of the NFL on their negotiations with an entirely different set of employees?

The play your talking about was week 16 game in 2002 giants vs 49ers. The play your going on about was a driod goal attempt in which the holder mis handled the snap and tried to improvise. The ineligible receiver was a linemab who came in as a blocker on the edge, meaning he was a tight end. He went for the pass and was tackled before the pass. The ruleing was pass interference and ineligible man down field. Later we find that he checked in as eligible for that play. It knocked the giants out of the plaloffs. As a lifelong giants fan that play killed me. Not as much as the refs dictating the 2009 season for peyton vs no in the sb or how hard they were trying to get Gb to repeat. When the refs don’t work to decide 4 games that I can remember off the top of my head(both giants vs packers, both saints vs lions) then I will agree these refs are better then the scabs. Til then ill take the scabs who hopefully will either call clay for the 5 second late hit on eli or remember first when rodgers leaves the pocket he is a runner not a qb and second that if a players head is not touched its not a penalty.

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Couldn’t agree more. The officiating in the NFL over the past few years has been a disgrace. Maybe the “scabs” will be a little less likely to call holding and BS interference on every positive play our respective teams make.

$165K a year

$16,500 a year into a 401K which expands to 23,000

Expanded medical benefits with medical reimbursement.

All for a part time job and these guys think that’s a bad offer.

Where do I sign up?
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The players make much more than that for their part time jobs. Why not sign up to play also? Oh, that’s right, you don’t have the skill that’s required to do either job! You wouldn’t get past the application process. Whining about how your team is getting screwed by officiating from your Mom’s couch isn’t a desirable qualification for the job.

The NFL officials are the best football officials in the world. No official is perfect, just like no player is perfect. Just like you and I are not perfect at our jobs. These officials have leverage because they have skills better than others. They risk asking too much and being replaced, but I assure you, the replacement refs will not be as good. If you think it is bad now, wait until you see what happens with replacements!

One ref the NFL has to get is Mills Lane. He’d be great. He may have been born at night, but he wasn’t born last night.
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One small problem-he had a stroke maybe a decade ago and can barely walk and talk. Had the pleasure of meeting him in Reno 5-6 years ago when the courthouse was named after him. A legend in many fields indeed, but replacement NFL ref no.

Seriously. I never saw the difference – I certainly don’t consider replacement officials “substandard”.

As long as they can do about the same level of quality (and let’s face it that’s not a very high standard) I don’t think many people will be complaining.

I think that guys likes to watch himself on TV after he officiates games. What an Ego-maniac.

And I just have to point and laugh at lifelong armchair jockeys critique NFL officials (raqaiw i’m looking in your direction). You guys are absolute clowns and have no idea what you’re talking about. The League Office and Competition Committee have set these guys up for failure with so many rule changes/additions that not only leave much gray area…..but also are meant to effect the league’s hazy (and extremely hypocritical) culture changes. These guys work from the bottom of a hole and are constantly trying to dig out.

I’d love to see you pot-bellied, beer guzzling, nacho shoveling LA-Z-Boy residents try to do their job. It would be pure comedy to every single rational person in this country watching you guys huff and puff trying to cover 10 yards with these guys.

$165K a year

$16,500 a year into a 401K which expands to 23,000

Expanded medical benefits with medical reimbursement.

All for a part time job and these guys think that’s a bad offer.

Where do I sign up?

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meh, I’d be careful what you wish for. Can you imagine the uproar if the officials were absolutely dreadful in the preseason/early in the regular season?

I can’t remember which team it was but I’m pretty sure it was a playoff game and a team was down to its last play of the game,which was to be a field goal attempt. the snap was fumbled, the kicker had to throw the ball downfield and there was an eligible receiver downfield around the 2 or 3 who was blatantly interfered. The refs incorrectly determined him to be ineligible. I remember Mike Perrera went over this and said that was the wrong call.

Wonder how many “bad calls” like that are going to occur with 2nd tier officials