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Raiders can’t lose 2013 first-round pick in Carson Palmer trade

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Despite reports that the Raiders could have to send their 2013 first-round draft pick to the Bengals in the Carson Palmer trade, Oakland is locked into sending only its 2013 second-round pick to Cincinnati.

A Raiders official told Steve Corkran of the Contra Costa Times that the Raiders, who already traded away this year’s first-round pick for Palmer, will conclude the trade by sending next year’s second-round pick to the Bengals.

Previous reports that the Bengals could get the Raiders’ first-round pick if Palmer led Oakland to the AFC Championship Game were apparently incorrect: The Bengals’ compensation will be the Raiders’ 2012 first-round pick and the Raiders’ 2013 second-round pick, and there’s no chance for the 2013 pick to be upgraded to a first-rounder.

Palmer believes that the Raiders and Bengals both won in the trade. At the cost of a first-round pick and a second-round pick, he’ll have to play well for the Raiders for years to come if he wants most people to agree with him.

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52 Responses to “Raiders can’t lose 2013 first-round pick in Carson Palmer trade”
  1. dawkinseffect says: Jun 6, 2012 7:19 PM

    I would say the Raiders would be better this year, but I just can’t bring myself to saying that knowing that The only good player on the team played for the Eagles last season.

  2. humb0lt says: Jun 6, 2012 7:23 PM

    To compensate the Bengals for agreeing not to take Oakland’s 2013 first round pick, the Raiders sent Cincy their 2014 1st round pick and their 4th and 5th round picks in 2015.

  3. csdaddy7777 says: Jun 6, 2012 7:31 PM

    And Asomugha really worked out for u guys lol

  4. bballpat07 says: Jun 6, 2012 7:41 PM

    With the 33rd pick in the 2013 NFL Draft the Cincinnati Bengals select…

  5. spellingcopfather says: Jun 6, 2012 7:42 PM

    Great news, hate on haters!!!

  6. justwinbaby29 says: Jun 6, 2012 7:53 PM

    If people looked at the trade in an objective way they’d realize it isn’t as bad as the “haters” would like you to believe. The bottom line is Carson Palmer (while throwing way too many INTs) played well enough for the Raiders to win 10 games and make the postseason.

    But because of a HORRIBLE defensive coordinator and no Darren McFadden – the Raiders finished 8-8. That’s no Palmer’s fault.

    Palmer WILL make the trade look good in 2012!

  7. tdk24 says: Jun 6, 2012 7:54 PM

    Raider fans already knew this. The idiot reporters got it mixed up. And since they all just copy the others’ articles, the confusion becomes widespread.

  8. pastabelly says: Jun 6, 2012 7:55 PM

    If oakland tried to trade Palmer today, they might get a third round pick for him.

  9. raiderapologist says: Jun 6, 2012 8:43 PM

    humb0lt says: Jun 6, 2012 7:23 PM

    To compensate the Bengals for agreeing not to take Oakland’s 2013 first round pick, the Raiders sent Cincy their 2014 1st round pick and their 4th and 5th round picks in 2015.
    —–

    According to what was reported previously, the Bengals wouldn’t get another first round pick unless the Raiders made the AFC Championship game either last season or this season, and since most of you seem to think Oakland will be picking first next April, and San Diego won the only Super Bowl they’ve ever known last season by knocking Oakland out of the playoffs, there was never any real chance of Cincy getting two firsts for Palmer. Only time will tell if that trade was any good for either club.

  10. jbaxt says: Jun 6, 2012 8:58 PM

    Did anyone really think it could possibly be a 1st? The faiders in the championship game is just laughable. Maybe they should focus on getting about the .500 mark. Like they did 7 years ago.

  11. radrntn says: Jun 6, 2012 8:58 PM

    humb0lt says:
    Jun 6, 2012 7:23 PM
    To compensate the Bengals for agreeing not to take Oakland’s 2013 first round pick, the Raiders sent Cincy their 2014 1st round pick and their 4th and 5th round picks in 2015.
    __________________________________

    it’s ok dumbolt….we all understand how lonely it is being a chargers fan

  12. demolition510 says: Jun 6, 2012 9:03 PM

    Dumdolt- you are hella corny.

  13. sourdough says: Jun 6, 2012 9:08 PM

    Doesn’t matter. Palmer will be Palmer. More interceptions is his modus operandi.

    McFragile will get hurt, and miss half the season, again.

    The Raiders won’t make it above .500 for the tenth straight season.

    Just lose, baby!

  14. silvernblak says: Jun 6, 2012 9:10 PM

    Whats Palmer supposed to say? That we got screwed on the trade for him?
    He showed alot of promise for us by the velocity of his throws and the strength in which he threw the ball last year, its just too bad he threw more interceptions then TD’s!
    We know we were asking alot of him to come in here on short notice, pick up the playbook and then take us to the playoffs! c’mon, really? how many QB’s can do that with success realistically? I think he did a pretty damn good job considering all the IR”s we had and what he was thrown into and up against.
    As far as the trades are concerned? whats done is done and we need to move on and forward with faith in RM and his decisions now! and Palmer IS part of that equation. I think he’s going to have a break out year because he has the right work ethic and attitude! Just Win Baby!!!

  15. brenenostler says: Jun 6, 2012 9:12 PM

    I think it’s very possible the Raiders will get the first pick in 2013. They’ve fired the last two coaches that went 8-8, their division is a lot harder now, and Carson Palmer isn’t what he used to be.

    Let the Matt Barkley sweepstakes begin…

  16. bluewinger says: Jun 6, 2012 9:13 PM

    Carson Palmer is a backup qb. The Raiders were foolish to give up that kind of ransom for him. Stupid is as stupid does.

  17. steviekthr3e says: Jun 6, 2012 9:18 PM

    @Tdk24 you hit the nail on the head.

    Everyone kept saying “2 First Rounders” because that’s what ESPN reported and everyone ran with it. No one seemed to acknowledge the ’2011 performance’ clause.

    As a Raiders fan, I’m hoping Palmer puts his money where his mouth is….

  18. deadeye says: Jun 6, 2012 9:20 PM

    The Raiders still got riped off.

  19. deadeye says: Jun 6, 2012 9:20 PM

    Oops, make that “ripped off”.

  20. racerx1225 says: Jun 6, 2012 9:38 PM

    dawkinseffect says: Jun 6, 2012 7:19 PM

    I would say the Raiders would be better this year, but I just can’t bring myself to saying that knowing that The only good player on the team played for the Eagles last season.
    ______________________________

    Loser.

    Richard Seymour, Tyvon Branch, Tommy Kelly, Lamarr Houston, Matt Shaughnessy and Aaron Curry all played well and would be welcome additions on any team.

    Veldeheer, McFadden, Marce Reece, Denarius Moore, DHB, Marcel Reece, Wizniewski and Michael Bush also.

    What are you smoking> You’re either high or ignorant a$$hole.

  21. marshawnlynchlookslikepredator says: Jun 6, 2012 9:42 PM

    I’m excited to see what Reggie can do next year with an almost full draft. Especially with that first pick coming late in the 1st round.

  22. slickster35 says: Jun 6, 2012 10:14 PM

    Still, one of the all-time worst trades ever.

    Everyone knows this but the delusional fanbase.

  23. rcali says: Jun 6, 2012 10:23 PM

    13 TDs 16 Ints. That’s what a first and second round pick gets you these days? Ouch.

  24. vincentbojackson says: Jun 6, 2012 10:38 PM

    Good news for Raiders. Now they can get taken to school by another team by shipping that first rounder off for somebody else’s garbage.

  25. hrdcorbengalsfan says: Jun 6, 2012 10:41 PM

    And if you don’t believe him, he will just quit!!

  26. iplaybad says: Jun 6, 2012 11:24 PM

    Ask Reggie McKenzie if he would have made the same deal that landed CPalmer in Oakland. If he answers honestly, the answer wouldn’t just be “no,” it would be “hell no!”

  27. raiderapologist says: Jun 6, 2012 11:36 PM

    slickster35 says: Jun 6, 2012 10:14 PM

    Still, one of the all-time worst trades ever.

    Everyone knows this but the delusional fanbase.
    —-
    Delusional is slickster’s favorite word. He’s not sure what it means, but he took the time to learn how to spell it, and he’s not letting all that learning go to waste.

  28. effedinLA says: Jun 6, 2012 11:54 PM

    bballpat07 says:
    Jun 6, 2012 7:41 PM
    With the 33rd pick in the 2013 NFL Draft the Cincinnati Bengals select…
    +++++++++++++
    That’s pretty funny there. I guess you’re right. Cincinnati could come in last place in the NFL this year.

  29. sellout3871 says: Jun 7, 2012 12:20 AM

    Sure dude, btw, whatever you had, you lost.

  30. villa41 says: Jun 7, 2012 12:28 AM

    Love it. A first rounder this year and a second rounder next year for a two time pro bowl QB that managed to lead his team to the play-offs twice? Yeah, I’ll make that deal every time.

    Take a look at what the Bears gave up to get Cutler and what the Skins gave up to get Griffin (who hasn’t played a down yet in the NFL by the way). The Raiders got more than than fair value for their picks.

    There’s a lot of scared haters slinking around their rocks right now. Well, you’re going to have to crawl back under those rocks soon, because the Raiders are going to be good and you know that deep down.

    Don’t worry about Carson’s picks last year. For a guy coming off the couch in mid season, his play overall was more than satisfactory. If the Raiders had played better defensively, then they would have been in the play-offs. Palmer wasn’t the problem. He’s part of the solution.

    Palmer is poised to have a big year with a full off season and working in Knapp’s QB friendly scheme. Plamer can still make the 60 yard bombs, but watch 6 yard check downs turn into 50 yard TD’s this year with McFadden and Reese this season too.

    Yeah, the Raiders are more than capable to win the West. Sorry, haters.

  31. jazzytrav says: Jun 7, 2012 12:30 AM

    With Reggie McKenzie in charge, don’t be surprised to see Palmer as nothing more than a stopgap and the Raiders to pile up 10-12 picks for the next draft. I wouldn’t even be surprised to see him traded for whatever they can get.

  32. lukedogg087 says: Jun 7, 2012 12:54 AM

    If anyone says that Carson can’t still huck it check the last two games he played against the Chargers 42 of 63 716 yards 4 touchdowns and 2 interceptions, and a QB rating well over 100. Add a full off-season with his receivers and having the Raiders best weapon Darren Mcfaden back in the fold and you a have what can be a powerful offense. Carson won’t be the problem, the defense is the question mark. Given the Raiders lack of success in the first round I would say that the picks are well worth it. Plus he is younger and a lot cheaper than Drew Brees, Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning

  33. ronlm says: Jun 7, 2012 12:59 AM

    People who point at Palmer’s TD/INT ratio last season as defining the QB’s ability, really need to get a clue.

    The man came off the frickin couch in the middle of the season, not having any knowledge of his teammates or playbook… and also not having the best player on the team, DMac, taking the pressure off of him. Considering, the man did well. I expect him to do much better this season.

    You want to critique him as a Raider… at least wait until after this season. Otherwise, you’re being ignorant.

  34. lukedogg087 says: Jun 7, 2012 1:07 AM

    Oh yeah and all you AFC West haters out there, the Raiders are still 9-3 in the division in the last 2 years using 2 different coaches, 3 different QB’s, and having one of the worst defenses in the NFL, I think we will be competitive in the division once again

  35. mullman7675 says: Jun 7, 2012 1:17 AM

    I love veteran QBs with a huge chip on their shoulder. Palmer will rank in the Top 10 this year, as will the RAIDERS offense. If the RAIDERS defense plays in the top half of the league, the RAIDERS win the AFC West.

    The RAIDERS failed in week 17 and the broncos backed into the playoffs in 2011.

    It won’t happen again- the RAIDERS win the West- no doubt.

  36. raideralex99 says: Jun 7, 2012 1:36 AM

    How soon the haters forget … JaMarcus was a first over all pick … the Carson trade was a steal for the Raiders.
    Yes … the Bengals have great drafting skills too … Akili Smith.
    First round picks are not a sure thing people … the top half of every draft every year turns out to be busts or just average players … no pro bowl material.

  37. hannahsdaddy says: Jun 7, 2012 2:06 AM

    @jbaxt is retarded. Look at the last two years.

    Carson Palmer will be good to great this year. Gregg Knapp’s offense is QB friendly and he will excel like the rest if the team.

  38. nopepper123 says: Jun 7, 2012 4:08 AM

    I love it when people say………well, time will tell if it was a bad deal based on the fact that no one knows how Dru Kirkpatrick will be. Remember, it’s not only the player the Bengals got for Palmer, it’s also the player that the Raiders didn’t get in the draft. And when the Bengals get a high second rounder next year, that’s another pick the Raiders won’t get.

    Lets put this simply, how could the Bengals get a better deal? I suppose a better deal would of been if they had made it with Indy instead last year……but, we just have to settle for this…….and the key word is “We”

    Who Dey!!

  39. joetoronto says: Jun 7, 2012 6:31 AM

    slickster35 says:
    Jun 6, 2012 10:14 PM
    Still, one of the all-time worst trades ever.

    Everyone knows this but the delusional fanbase.
    ***************************************************
    Enjoy Matt Cassel, loser.

  40. bengalsucker says: Jun 7, 2012 7:45 AM

    Ok so all these Oakland fans are saying “well gee golly willigers guys. leave our qb alone. he came off the couch and knew nothing. so what if he threw interceptions”. well take a look at it last couple of years here in cincy. he knew the offense inside and out. had some spectacular talent on the team as far as offense goes. He still chucked it more to the other team than his own. Just face it. Oakland got absolutely fleeced in that trade. Aren’t you wondering why Hue is now here in Cincy? Brown gave him a bs coaching job here because Hue helped facilitate the biggest fleecing in recent memory. So Brown rewarded him. Good luck Oakland. Bet Palmer’s TD/INT ratio is even worse this year.

  41. torturedraiderfan says: Jun 7, 2012 8:38 AM

    Maybe the Raiders paid too high a price for Palmer, but what were they supposed to do, play the rest of the season with Kyle Boller as the starting QB? Give Palmer a little more time with the team and then judge the trade.

  42. villa41 says: Jun 7, 2012 9:41 AM

    bengalsucker says:
    Jun 7, 2012 7:45 AM
    Ok so all these Oakland fans are saying “well gee golly willigers guys. leave our qb alone. he came off the couch and knew nothing. so what if he threw interceptions”. well take a look at it last couple of years here in cincy. he knew the offense inside and out. had some spectacular talent on the team as far as offense goes. He still chucked it more to the other team than his own.
    ———————————————–

    Sorry, son. Your revisionist hisory might fool other people but not me. Palmer had a one bad season in Cincy, as the whole team did in 2010, He was hurt in 2008. Other than that the guy played well for a sorry ass franchise that hadn’t been to the play-offs in about 15 years before he got there.

    Palmer’s career TD/Int % compares favorably (even after the last two seasons) to Payton Manning, Rivers, and Roethlisberger to only name a few of the so called “top” QB’s. That’s a fact. Go look it up.

    A love it when people don’t do their homework before shooting from the lip or knowingly manipulate the truth for theie own agenda.

    I let you know when the next class is in session. You just got schooled, fool.

  43. rayguyreturns says: Jun 7, 2012 10:34 AM

    With a little searching you will find out that Dumbolt, Sliskster, Sourdough and Pantherblow all have the same IP address.

    He’s one 13 year old whiner who was obviously picked on by a Raider toddler somewhere.

  44. joetoronto says: Jun 7, 2012 11:04 AM

    Who dey?

    Dey criminals.

  45. bengalsucker says: Jun 7, 2012 11:45 AM

    @villa41

    Ohhh man I just got schoooled yo! What a fool. Last year was no fluke for Palmer. You can bet your house on it. He will throw more INT’s than TD’s this year. He’s gun shy in the pocket. Ever since the knee injury he’s a flake back there. Once he gets a little pressure it’s over with for him. Give me facts all you want, Palmer is DONE. At best he’s a good vet presence around if you wanna groom a young buck. Maybe they’ll learn a little bit about quitting too! Once again Raider fan, after this year you’ll come back on here eating crow b/c it’ll be reinforced that you guys got FLEECED by the worst owner in all of pro sports. So how does it feel?

  46. pantherpro says: Jun 7, 2012 11:47 AM

    Maybe the Raiders won’t have to give away 10,000 seats every game. Can you borrow tarp from A’s for third deck empty seats. Hello LA? I know the Niners don’t want your trash in Santa Clara

  47. londonbengal says: Jun 7, 2012 11:47 AM

    @ ‘ronlm’ said…….

    “The man came off the frickin’ couch in the middle of the season, not having any knowledge of his teammates or playbook’……….

    ================================

    You obviously weren’t paying attention man.

    The guy that signed him, Hue Jackson was his long time coach in Cincinnati. Thats was why Jackson wanted him……….and they also went out and got his long time security blanket TJ Housh………

    See, there were plenty of familiar shoulders for Palmer to cry on after all those picks……….

  48. radrntn says: Jun 7, 2012 1:53 PM

    pantherpro says:
    Jun 7, 2012 11:47 AM
    Maybe the Raiders won’t have to give away 10,000 seats every game. Can you borrow tarp from A’s for third deck empty seats. Hello LA? I know the Niners don’t want your trash in Santa Clara
    ______________________________

    It’s ok Kitten, we will give you, dumbolt, sweetcheeks sourdough, and slickster on my rearster all free seats so we can throw peanuts at you why you guys make out.

  49. mullman7675 says: Jun 7, 2012 1:56 PM

    RAIDERS win the AFC WEST in 2012.

    Hate on simpletons. You know who you are.

  50. returntoexcellence says: Jun 7, 2012 3:06 PM

    londonbengal says:Jun 7, 2012 11:47 AM

    @ ‘ronlm’ said…….

    “The man came off the frickin’ couch in the middle of the season, not having any knowledge of his teammates or playbook’……….

    ================================

    You obviously weren’t paying attention man.

    The guy that signed him, Hue Jackson was his long time coach in Cincinnati. Thats was why Jackson wanted him……….and they also went out and got his long time security blanket TJ Housh………

    See, there were plenty of familiar shoulders for Palmer to cry on after all those picks……….
    _______________________________

    Wow… 2 whole people out of an entire organization? How did this guy not win us a Superbowl last year?

    Moron

  51. bradydad says: Jun 8, 2012 12:07 AM

    HAHAHAHAHA. So, we got rid of a quitter that was doing nothing for us. We got TWO great draft picks ( 1st and 2nd ). AND, we now have the coach that engineered the trade to begin with. Hmmmmm,,,,, yeah. I am going out on a ledge here to say that the Bengals got the better of the deal on this one. And trust me, we know it doesn’t happen often so we are gonna gloat. And to top it off? We got draft picks for 85 too!!!! Dead weight thrown overboard, or better put ADDITION BY SUBTRACTION. Maybe you guys can pick up Chad now too and he, Carson and TJ can rekindle all of their past successes,,,,,oh wait.

  52. bkstaten70 says: Jun 8, 2012 1:15 AM

    Thanks Raiders fans, I needed a good laugh and listening to everyone who said this was a good trade for Oakland definitely delivered. If you guys really think Palmer was worth a first and second round pick it proves you have never watched him play in the NFL. I watched every game he played in Cincinnati and he hasn’t been even a decent QB since he blew out his knee. The guy is scared to death to fully step into his throws so the ball sails on him and thats where the majority of his INT’s come from. Aside from the picks Palmer lacks the leadership qualities required to be an elite QB. He doesn’t take charge of the huddle or demand accountability from the rest of the offensive unit and until he starts to do that he’ll be hard pressed to be an effective QB. I would love to see the Raiders do well but be realistic fellas, it’s not going to happen with Palmer. You got a marginal QB at best and had to give a kings ransom to get him. You should come to terms with it now so going 6-10 this season isn’t such a tough pill to swallow.

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