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Fins didn’t seek Bengals reference on Ochocinco

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The Dolphins’ recruitment of Chad Ochocinco likely didn’t involve any questions about his mother’s line of work.  It also didn’t involve any questions for the Bengals about the work Chad did in Cincinnati.

Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer reports that the Dolphins didn’t call the Bengals for information about the man who spent 10 seasons with the franchise, eight of them with coach Marvin Lewis.

“They’re going to make a determination,” Lewis told Reedy.  “There is no downside for them.  Chad obviously had a great career here and I know he would be excited about that opportunity.”

Of course, the fact that the Bengals traded Ochocinco with a year left on his contract possibly says it all.

Then again, the Dolphins made the move even though Miami defensive coordinator Kevin Coyle arrived in Cincinnati with Chad in 2001, and Coyle worked for the team for the entirety of Chad’s tenure.

Still, Coyle didn’t work with the offense.  Lewis and former/current Bengals assistant Hue Jackson did.

Jaguars offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski did, too, and the fact that Jacksonville made no play for Ochocinco could be the brightest red flag of all.

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27 Responses to “Fins didn’t seek Bengals reference on Ochocinco”
  1. joetoronto says: Jun 13, 2012 10:00 AM

    Call the Bungals for a reference, LMAO!

  2. andymannfl says: Jun 13, 2012 10:03 AM

    “the fact that Jacksonville made no play for Ochocinco could be the brightest red flag of all”

    How is this a ‘red flag?’ Chad wanted to go to Miami. The Dolphins immediately worked him out and signed him. It doesn’t appear that J-ville ever had a chance here. Oh, that’s right, no one wants to play in Miami according to Ryan Clark, I forgot.

  3. savocabol1 says: Jun 13, 2012 10:05 AM

    Is this even a common practice?

  4. clashpoint says: Jun 13, 2012 10:10 AM

    Apparently he never figured out the Pats’ offensive system. The other players had to tell him where to line up. Thats the worst reference I can imagine, so no point in asking the Bengals. He’s never been a soft worker, for all the criticism on him concerning everything else. Maybe the Fins figure they can get their playbook through to him and good luck to them, they’ll need it. The Pats couldnt.

  5. whatswiththehate says: Jun 13, 2012 10:23 AM

    Good luck Ocho…

    Clearly being yourself is frowned upon when it comes to certain folks in the NFL.

  6. ezdoesit209 says: Jun 13, 2012 10:23 AM

    What is the point of this article? Other than inviting people to bash 85. The man has a right to earn a living… whether you are a fan or not.

  7. pskotte says: Jun 13, 2012 10:26 AM

    Lot of physical ability but very undisciplined, both mentally and emotionally. Hope that home cooking settles him down. Besides, who else in Miami is going to catch the ball?

  8. mindcrime401 says: Jun 13, 2012 10:26 AM

    “…and the fact that Jacksonville made no play for Ochocinco could be the brightest red flag of all.”

    Riiiight, because Jax has been a model franchise on evaluating talent.

  9. donphin99 says: Jun 13, 2012 10:29 AM

    As a Dolphin fan, he is worth it just on the chance he scores a touchdown against NE while they are paying him 2 million this year.

  10. dionoil says: Jun 13, 2012 10:31 AM

    Sounds like someone is trying to stir the pot here.

  11. xpensivewinos says: Jun 13, 2012 10:38 AM

    It simply boils down to what’s he got left in the tank and can he learn the playbook well enough to be productive on the field if his skill level is still high. Philbin will determine that soon enough and it will work out or it won’t.

    Not a lot of risk here…..

  12. kerc1986 says: Jun 13, 2012 10:39 AM

    Is a no lose situation for the fins

  13. 69finfan says: Jun 13, 2012 10:51 AM

    During the time Ocho was at Cinncy the Bengals were 68-91-1 and 0-2 in the playoffs. Why would the Dolphins ask for their input? He can still play just figure out a way to get him to learn the playbook. Non story. Go Fins

  14. jschwanny says: Jun 13, 2012 10:58 AM

    @clashpoint is right. It’s bad that Ocho didn’t know where to line up after a year in NE. Its even worse that Chad played for a decade in Cincinnati and in year 10 was still consistently running the wrong route.

  15. 513guy says: Jun 13, 2012 11:10 AM

    whatswiththehate says: Jun 13, 2012 10:23 AM

    Clearly being yourself is frowned upon when it comes to certain folks in the NFL.


    Not nearly as much as being unable to understand a playbook, jumping offsides numerous times during walk-thrus all the while worrying about the next upcoming reality T.V. special on the horizon.

  16. nublar7 says: Jun 13, 2012 11:19 AM

    Why would the Dolphins call the Bengals for a reference? Did the Broncos call the Colts for a reference on Manning? Who does that? Where is the story?

    The Dolphins made a very good signing and have nothing to lose. If he doesn’t make the team, they can cut him with no salary cap impact. If he makes the team, they pay him the vet minimum of $925,000 and it only goes up if he hits incentives like catching 80 passes this season.

    The Patriots on the other hand should be the team being blasted. They stashed him deep on the depth chart and put him in a system he was never comfortable with. On top of that they traded a 5th round pick in 2012, a 6th round pick in 2013, paid him $6 million last year and will have $2 million in dead cap space in 2012 and $2 million in dead cap space in 2013.

  17. j0esixpack says: Jun 13, 2012 11:26 AM

    What background check is needed?

    He either has the physical and mental tools to play or he doesn’t. That will work itself out in camp. And with a 1 year veteran minimum contract, there’s no risk to the Fins.

    If Chad can’t make this squad he’s really all done – they’ve got no one after Naanee.

    The hard truth is that even though Ochochinco could never learn how to run the Patriots routes or where to line up, if he was still able to outrun coverage straight and deep he could have filled a gaping hole on the Patriots.

    He couldn’t. The Pats upgraded and cut him.

    There’s far less competition on the Fins but the worst that happens is they cut him too.

  18. latenightroach says: Jun 13, 2012 11:37 AM

    He’s happy to be back in his hometown so maybe it’ll be a good thing. Hard Knocks is definitely happy.

  19. markeyh says: Jun 13, 2012 11:48 AM

    Well if Chad was running the wrong route after 10 years but still managed to get over 11 thousand yards receiving and 67 TD’s I say let him run the wrong routes…..or better yet how great will he be when he does run the right routes for Miami!!!! 1500+ receiving yards and 20 TD’s ?

  20. ibottpsgoldpants says: Jun 13, 2012 11:51 AM

    As a Bengals fan, I can say that if allowed to free lance a little, Chad can be a very good receiver. Age or physical conditioning isn’t his problem. He’ll drop a pass or two but make up for it with some catches he shouldn’t make. The problem in New England is the offense is based on timing. Receivers have to run precise routes and be where Brady wants to throw the ball. That’s the worst offense for Chad. There is place in the NFL for him.

    Chad is not a cancer as some suggest. The guy is passionate about winning and loves to play the game for the right reasons. The antics are to make money but you can’t fault a guy for wanting to pay the bills. Rarely do I think it impacts his on the field productions.

  21. beelicker says: Jun 13, 2012 12:25 PM

    Chad acts like a guy with ADHD. Always running around & running his mouth & jumping into drills with DBs & challenging whomever to footraces @ training camp & such. Very high energy in the early days & more focused on drills but still much extemporaneous.

    I noticed a turn during a later camp when S Madieu Williams (since DBs couldn’t tackle in camp 11s), doing what the coaches told him to do kept trying to knock balls away from Chad’s hands after he caught them downfield – to practice both ball security on the O side & turnovers from the D side.

    85 got all frustrated & mouthy because of it & had a little fit, after which the coaches told MW to keep on doing it (which I’m sure caused some discomfort to all the WRs’ hands & arms). MW looked a little reluctant but did as told & the next time 85 started whining, picked up the ball & just FIRED it straight into MW’s facemask, leading to a camp fight.

    Chad used to be all work work work early on but that began to change right around that time. I think the next season (2008) was when MW signed FA with the Vikes.

  22. perennialsinn21 says: Jun 13, 2012 12:44 PM

    I live in Cincinnati not a Bengals fan go steelers Chad never ran the wrong routes he freelanced alot here was still a probowler never got in trouble with the law so my thing is who is he hurting keeps in shape studies film what happen in ne was a fluke so I say get off his back and let him live.

  23. FinFan68 says: Jun 13, 2012 1:54 PM

    perennialsinn21 says:
    Jun 13, 2012 12:44 PM
    I live in Cincinnati not a Bengals fan go steelers Chad never ran the wrong routes he freelanced alot here
    When it comes to a WR, “freelance” means he ran the wrong routes and was not where the QB expected/offensive scheme needed him to be. Sometimes that worked out but only if he was NOT supposed to run a timing route AND the QB had time to see where he was going and get him the ball. Sandlot plays like “just get open” rarely result in big plays in the NFL.

  24. scyankee9999 says: Jun 13, 2012 2:07 PM

    Receivers have to run precise routes and be where Brady wants to throw the ball. That’s the worst offense for Chad. There is place in the NFL for him

    I think that’s the point of the new west coast offense. Lol
    I still like the signing as its low risk. It’s clear he still has something left or the Pats ( that role model of a team that can do no wrong in sports writers eyes) wouldn’t of gave up so much for him just a year ago. He didnt fit their system. Let’s hope he somehow fits ours.
    Go Fins.

  25. patridge21 says: Jun 13, 2012 2:26 PM

    Obviously with the quarterbacks and receivers the dolphins currently have their Playbook isn’t going to be too complex. With Brady in New England where Ocho was I could see it being complex especially since Brady acts on what the defense is looking like and changes things all the time. That right there would be tough for anybody let alone a selfish fool who thinks he is the best in the league and should be able to roam freely. Imo I think Chad will be OK with the phins since they will HOPEFULLY be a joke of a team and be bottom feeders in the east!! GO BILLS!!!!

  26. markeyh says: Jun 13, 2012 2:48 PM

    So you mean Miami will have to put away that Broom that they swept the Bills with BIG TIME last year?

  27. vtmem says: Jun 13, 2012 9:57 PM

    The proof of the pudding will be in the eating. Nothing is guaranteed. He either makes the team or he doesn’t.

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