Comments on: Fourth-year holdouts could be more common under new rookie wage scale

By: jgedgar70

jgedgar70 — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:57:41 +0000

I’m not worried about Cam. He will want his money if he keeps playing like he has, and the Panthers will pay him. I don’t see him rejecting a $25 million contract because RGIII or Luck or Eli gets a $28 million deal. As long as he’s near the top and the Panthers are title contenders, he won’t hold out. And not even the Panthers brass is dumb enough to low-ball him just for the hell of it.

By: peytonsneck18

peytonsneck18 — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:43:25 +0000

why not make the player play out all the years in his rookie deal until it is up? if yr still putting up stellar numbers after 4/5 years then u deserve to get paid, IRG3 is already looking for his next big contract after one year cause the redskins and media are hyping him up as a football GOD, akili smith 2.0, aka the black david carr

By: covercorner

covercorner — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:11:40 +0000

Why do fans call players that want more money greedy, but the NFL and individual teams are not considered greedy when they want more money from cities and states to build a new stadium?

By: godofwine330

godofwine330 — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:07:10 +0000

I cannot blame the players if they hold out. They get cut if they underperform for a year, even if they had a nagging injury that the team knew about. Players essentially sign 1 year contracts that they must live up to but the team does not. I do not understand why less violent sports like baseball and basketball have guaranteed contracts and a much more vicious sport such as football only has the signing bonus.

Great! I got X millions up front now but if they cut me a year into the deal after an ACL injury suffered in the last game of the season. Now I cannot find a team because I am still 3-4 months away from being healthy, and if I wait until I am healthy who is going to sign me after a year away from the game? Football players risk injury on every play and every chance they take could be their last chance at a deal. Some, like Drew Brees took a chance and got hurt, now he never will take than chance again.

By: gordyb7

gordyb7 — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:37:28 +0000

I don’t care about high-achieving multi-year veterans holding out for more money. If they deserve it, pay them.

The problem pre-CBA was ROOKIES holding out for more money. You picked a guy in the first round and there was a 50/50 chance he’d miss significant time in his first NFL training camp, which really sucked. So his development was set back and there was a ton of drama about “when’s he going to show for camp?”

I’m glad that problem got fixed.

By: onereasonableman

onereasonableman — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:58:02 +0000

I really think the union should have negotiated a one year limit on the franchise tag. Give one year to get the player signed then if not, let them walk. Big mistake.

By: bhindenemylines

bhindenemylines — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:45:15 +0000

johnnycash19 says:
Jun 14, 2012 2:20 AM
Under the new labor deal, their rights are tied up for a mandatory four years, with no opportunity to renegotiate until they have finished three full seasons
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I like that they cannot hold out for more money until they have 3 seasons under their belt.

Is there anything in the CBA that allows that for veteran players as well? MJD for instance, would he have to complete a certain number of years on his contract before he holds out for more? Or is it strictly for the rookies?

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Any player can hold out anytime they want. It is a bargaining tactic outside of the CBA. It is essentially a one man strike.

The point of the article is that prior to the new CBS high draft picks didn’t have the leverage to hold out because they had already been paid $20-50+ million.

Now, after three years, if RGIII has lead the Skins to the playoffs a few times and been among the league passing leaders, instead of getting paid the last year of his rookie contract he will have leverage to demand more. Thus, he will hold out.

And Jemarcus will be laughing all the way to his investment guy’s office.

By: claydefayette

claydefayette — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:45:10 +0000

Make the first two years of a rookie’s contract low but guaranteed and if he outperforms his contract he should have the right to arbitration. If a player drafted high sucks, then he can continue to make the same amount of cash until the contract runs out.

By: hugejazz

hugejazz — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:38:46 +0000

The rookie wage scale was long overdue. Until then teams were, in reality, forced to pay huge based solely on college career and potential. Now, players who have proven themselves will get their money. Those that don’t won’t.

And no matter what, the scale will always be tilted toward the team, not the player. I think the average NFL career span is about 3 1/2 years. If their big paydays come at year 4 then many of these players will never see the big payoffs at all. On the other hand, players that perform beyond their first contract will be getting paid for actual performance and not potential.

By: southcakpanther

southcakpanther — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:48:39 +0000

Good thing for Cam that my Panthers always reward their own with large contracts if the player performs. Sometimes they do this to a fault, but they do it none the less.

By: adonisberg

adonisberg — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:36:33 +0000

In other words PFT bussiness will booming come 2014 ala Drew Brees.

By: johnnycash19

johnnycash19 — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:20:04 +0000

Under the new labor deal, their rights are tied up for a mandatory four years, with no opportunity to renegotiate until they have finished three full seasons
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I like that they cannot hold out for more money until they have 3 seasons under their belt.

By: granadafan

granadafan — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:02:01 +0000

I fully support the rookie wage scale as it’s absurd fora rookie to come in unproven and be near the highest paid in the league before even taking a snap. However, it send as if newest rookies are getting screwed by having to play under low wages (NFL wise) for longer years considering the short career span.

By: redwingfan1234

redwingfan1234 — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 05:58:12 +0000

And so… the rookie wage scale works. (unless you’re the increasingly rare first round RB)

By: yssupasigninnamnotyep

yssupasigninnamnotyep — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 05:09:20 +0000

The Colts twice forced MegaHead to play every snap? Are you frickin’ kidding me Florio?

Where do you get this stuff? Like MegaHead didn’t WANT to play every snap? After all these glorified Manning stories about what a great leader he is and how he plays every down and doesn’t want to leave the field and you blame the Colts for giving him untold millions of dollars? On top of all the endorsement money?

These guys and their families will be set for life if they play their cards right…if they don’t, then tough sh!t.

Really tired of people making excuses for professional athletes who can’t handle their good fortune…enough already.

By: theashleyguy

theashleyguy — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 04:59:38 +0000

I know the salaries are all relative and that somehow we have entered Bizarro World when we talk about professional athlete salaries, but let’s keep something in mind: Griffin III is going to earn in excess of $20 million for his first four years. If he produces, he will earn even more. But let’s not feel too sorry for him.

By: roastmeforbeingacardsfan

roastmeforbeingacardsfan — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 04:43:26 +0000

Come on don’t make Griffen seem greedy. He was going to get forced to go wherever he was going to go. If the colts got him they wouldn’t trade him. They needed a qb. It’s obvious washington wanted him so they wouldn’t have traded him either. Griffen didn’t have a say on this.