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Ballard situation conjures memories of Belichick-Childress waivers feud

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Bill Belichick may not believe in “unwritten rules” when it comes to waivers claims, but he apparently tried to craft one nearly five years ago.

In the days before the term “Spygate” was coined, the Patriots coach was accused by former Vikings coach Brad Childress of trying to persuade the Vikings not to make a waivers claim for tight end Garrett Mills, whom the Pats hoped to sign to the practice squad.  Childress said Belichick offered not to claim a Vikings players on waivers in exchange for the consideration.

Childress declined, the Vikings claimed Mills, the Vikings waived linebacker David Herron, and the Patriots claimed Herron on waivers.

“He didn’t really care for that,” Childress said at the time, on WCCO-AM.  “He was trying to leverage, but you always find out who is honest and straightforward.”

Fast forward to 2012.  Belichick claimed Giants tight end Jake Ballard on waivers, rejecting the notion that teams are ever expected to look the other way in such situations.

“[T]here aren’t any unwrittens,” Belichick said Wednesday.  “You can’t negotiate a contract, release him, and then re-negotiate another contract with him that was already done in advance.  I’m sure the Giants weren’t doing that.  So the player is on waivers, he’s on waivers — ours or anybody else’s.  I don’t know what unwrittens you’re talking about.”

Though there’s no reason to believe Belichick opted to claim Ballard for any purpose other than to acquire a good player that the Patriots won’t be able to use in 2012 or need when he’s ready in 2013, the Childress allegations (if true) open the door to all sorts of possible motivations for Belichick hoping to keep the Giants from shifting Ballard off the 90-man roster.

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32 Responses to “Ballard situation conjures memories of Belichick-Childress waivers feud”
  1. dccowboy says: Jun 14, 2012 1:32 PM

    Wouldn’t teams ‘agreeing’ not to claim players on waivers be collusion?

  2. greekgodfather says: Jun 14, 2012 1:36 PM

    I don’t understand why this has taken a life of its own. Players are claimed off waivers all the time. One team’s trash, another team’s treasure. Did BB made a good move by claiming Ballard? Yes, indeed. Was a stupid move by the G men? Let them decide.
    Let’s move on. (I’ll have to admit though…I love it!)

  3. zimaman says: Jun 14, 2012 1:38 PM

    i know most of you probably will take the anti-Belichick point of view

    BUT

    to believe anything that comes out of Chilly’s mouth and think that it is an accurate account – now that’s a stretch.

  4. geeeeemen says: Jun 14, 2012 1:39 PM

    Giants fans were shocked and pissed when Steve Smith left for Philly, and were saddened when Kevin Boss signed with Oakland. And “at the end of the day,” we won the Super Bowl.

    I like Ballard, but he was out for 2012 anyway. I think they’ll find a someone to step in like they did this past year.

  5. ironhawk says: Jun 14, 2012 1:45 PM

    He’s not a hypocrite. He said there’s no unrwritten rules and that he makes the choices that are best for the team. That doesn’t mean you don’t hope people won’t do it, or that you won’t try to convince another coach not to do it. It’s not like he got mad that the Vikings violated some coach’s code. He had just hoped he could convince Childress to back off, and was mad that he couldn’t.

  6. situsavaisprier says: Jun 14, 2012 1:56 PM

    Right now there are several TE’s out there, starting or backing up with a decent amount of playing time, that were Giantswithing 6-7 years ago. Jeremy Shockey, Kevin Boss, Visanthe Shiancoe, Scott Chandler.

    Now Jake Ballard started for the Giants, had a decent year, and was claimed by New England knowing it is unlikely he will play this year. This is of course after many people were going on and on about how the Giants didn’t have a TE when Boss left and how they didn’t replace Steve Smith. Fast forward and lo and behold, Victor Cruz had a big breakout year and Ballard had a decent year while sneaking down the middle of the field for some chunks of yards on quite some catches.

    Giants have a great TE Coach that does a tremendous job getting the best out of the TE’s, and of course it helps that Hakeem Nicks and Victor Cruz is there to open things up, and Eli is in his prime. Giants will be just fine at the TE position.

  7. bigblue5611 says: Jun 14, 2012 1:59 PM

    Giants/Eli flat-out own Belichick and Brady. And this move clearly shows it’s eating that sore loser alive.

    2 Super Bowl wins over the Pats tarnishes Belichick and Brady’s legacy and that is such a beautiful thing.

    Giants baby! World Champs

    Come get some in 2012

  8. CKL says: Jun 14, 2012 2:00 PM

    My thought at the time is the same as it is now: BB was angry that Chilly flapped his gums about it to the media, not that Chilly didn’t do what BB asked.

  9. jpb12 says: Jun 14, 2012 2:00 PM

    Miami took TE Will Yeatman off waivers from patriots in 2010. Buffalo took TE Lee Smith of waivers in same year.

    Belichick seems to be trying to load up on TE’s.

    He also paid Markell Carter $300K to stay on practice squad last year instead of signing with another team’s 53 man roster.

  10. thegronk87 says: Jun 14, 2012 2:07 PM

    as long as the giants new TE learns to fake injuries the giants should be fine.

  11. eshine76 says: Jun 14, 2012 2:08 PM

    Belichick is telling the truth… If he believed that there were unwritten rules, he wouldn’t have felt the need to call Chilly to ask him not to pick up his guy.

  12. j0esixpack says: Jun 14, 2012 2:09 PM

    So Belichick called Chilly and told him he wouldn’t claim one of his players off waivers if he didn’t claim one of Belichick’s.

    Chilly declined as was his right and Belichick was disappointed as was his right.

    No rules broken, nothing hypocritical there. But in Belihcick’s case the commissioner and other fans and coaches want to hold Belichick to the nebulous “spirit” of the rule, not the rule itself.

    As with Garrett Mills, if Belichick wanted to keep him he simply needed to keep him on the roster.

    And if the Giants wanted to keep Ballard all they needed to do was keep him on the roster too.

    In the case of Ballard this isn’t retribution. For just $500k Belichick can now match any offer made for Ballard in 2013 when, if Hernandez decides to play contract hardball or Gronk suffers an injury, he’s got one of the best TEs in football as a Plan B.

    Why do people feel a need to look beyond that obvious football motivation? Belichick has a huge amount of respect for Coughlin but that’s not going to stop him from improving his team long term.

  13. mullman7675 says: Jun 14, 2012 2:17 PM

    William is shady and the patriots are rooted in loose ethics.

    A spiteful move, nothing else. Spin it how you want chowds, but there is no question as to what happened here.

  14. omnipotentcrab says: Jun 14, 2012 2:35 PM

    Don’t know why everyone’s saying that Belicheck is doing this to spite Coughlin. He made a good football move plain and simple. People forget that him and Coughlin are actually friends, having known each other from their time spent with Big Tuna.

  15. DubZ480 says: Jun 14, 2012 2:40 PM

    Ultimately, the Giants messed up by releasing a player that they wanted.
    Patriots caught them doing and signed the player.
    Real winner here is Ballard who will get his full contract $$.
    Maybe the Patriots can trade him back to the Giants in 2013 :-)

  16. darthhitman77 says: Jun 14, 2012 3:02 PM

    bigblue5611 says: Jun 14, 2012 1:59 PM

    Giants/Eli flat-out own Belichick and Brady. And this move clearly shows it’s eating that sore loser alive.

    2 Super Bowl wins over the Pats tarnishes Belichick and Brady’s legacy and that is such a beautiful thing.

    Giants baby! World Champs

    Come get some in 2012
    =====================================

    Not a Pats fan or anything BUT, unless I’m mistaken the Giants have made the playoffs following a Super Bowl ONCE…EVER!!! Don’t worry, we’re ALL comin’ to get some son

  17. bigblue5611 says: Jun 14, 2012 3:33 PM

    “Not a Pats fan or anything BUT, unless I’m mistaken the Giants have made the playoffs following a Super Bowl ONCE…EVER!!! Don’t worry, we’re ALL comin’ to get some son”

    Please child get your facts straight
    After 86′ Bowl following year was a strike year

    After 08′ we were 12-4 and dominated the league and would have coasted to another bowl if Plax didn’t shoot himself and cost us

    2012- we are stacked more than ever so like I said

    Come get some – world champs baby!

  18. thegronk87 says: Jun 14, 2012 3:55 PM

    the only reason the giants went 12-4 in 2008 folowing their super bowl was their easy schedule.

    and if gronk were healthy, he would have owned the giants in the super bowl as he did in the regular season. count your blessings, giants fans.

  19. bigblue5611 says: Jun 14, 2012 4:26 PM

    thegronk87 says:Jun 14, 2012 3:55 PM
    the only reason the giants went 12-4 in 2008 folowing their super bowl was their easy schedule.
    and if gronk were healthy, he would have owned the giants in the super bowl as he did in the regular season. count your blessings, giants fans.

    Definition of moron: Pats fan (see above) trying to talk smack after his team got owned 3 straight times by Giants and twice in Super Bowl…..how dumb can you be??

  20. thetruth1313 says: Jun 14, 2012 4:50 PM

    bigblue5611 says:
    Jun 14, 2012 1:59 PM

    Come get some in 2012
    ——————————————-
    Yeah- going 9-7 (granted they won the SB) really strikes fear in other teams.

    Or do you mean the flopping?

  21. marima07 says: Jun 14, 2012 4:52 PM

    Childress is an asshat. He went public believing he had outsmarted Belichick and wanted the world to know it.

    Meanwhile, Belichick’s trade of Randy Moss to the Vikings cost Childress his head coaching position.

    Who outsmarted who again?

  22. marima07 says: Jun 14, 2012 4:54 PM

    And… is it still a feud if only one side cares?

  23. wyobroncoboy says: Jun 14, 2012 6:49 PM

    Been known to happen a time er two before….

    Barrett was drafted in the seventh round (220th overall) in the 2008 NFL Draft by the Denver Broncos. He was waived by the Broncos on August 30, 2008, and re-signed the next day to their practice squad. On November 23, 2008, Barrett was elevated to the Broncos’ active roster. He played in the final six games of the season, starting the last three. He finished with 22 tackles and one interception. In 2009, Barrett played in 14 games, with no starts, and recorded 10 tackles on the season.
    [edit] New England Patriots

    On August 5, 2010, Barrett was waived/injured by the Broncos with a shoulder injury. If he had cleared waivers, Barrett would have reverted to the Broncos’ injured reserve list. However, he was claimed by the New England Patriots on August 6. He was placed on injured reserve on August 31, the first day the team could do so without exposing him to waivers.

  24. mike83ri says: Jun 14, 2012 7:19 PM

    Remember when Childress scooped up Harvin the Migraine machine from under Bill’s nose? Or when he swindled Bill for Randy Moss for such a low draft pick?

  25. infectorman says: Jun 14, 2012 10:33 PM

    Who does Brad Childress coach for these days?

  26. cooklynn17 says: Jun 14, 2012 11:09 PM

    thegronk87 says: Jun 14, 2012 2:07 PM

    as long as the giants new TE learns to fake injuries the giants should be fine.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Hey genius, why would a tight end fake injuries on offense? Faking injuries is done to slow down the no huddle / hurry up offense, by defensive players.

    Football 101 idiot.

  27. cooklynn17 says: Jun 14, 2012 11:16 PM

    thetruth1313 says: Jun 14, 2012 4:50 PM

    bigblue5611 says: Jun 14, 2012 1:59 PM … Come get some in 2012 ——————————————

    Yeah- going 9-7 (granted they won the SB) really strikes fear in other teams.

    Or do you mean the flopping?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    You said in hero, (granted they won the SB), and last time i looked that’s all that matters.

    Judging by your bitterness, I am guessing your sorry team did not win the Superbowl.

  28. cooklynn17 says: Jun 14, 2012 11:24 PM

    thegronk87 says: Jun 14, 2012 3:55 PM

    the only reason the giants went 12-4 in 2008 folowing their super bowl was their easy schedule.

    and if gronk were healthy, he would have owned the giants in the super bowl as he did in the regular season. count your blessings, giants fans.
    —————————————————————–
    So what’s your excuse in 2007. Pats 18 and 1 will stick in the crawl of Pats fans forever.

    BTW, it must be nice playing the Jets, Bills and Dolphins twice every year. So don’t preach to me about easy schedules.

    And be sure to count your blessings for that BS ruling on the tuck rule. Without that this Pats dynasty would never have been started.

    PS. Didn’t Chase Blackburn own Gronk in the SB? intercepted by Blackburn. Who btw, 5 weeks earlier was teaching school.

    Suck it up sore loser, and stop making excuses.

  29. cooklynn17 says: Jun 14, 2012 11:29 PM

    darthhitman77 says: Jun 14, 2012 3:02 PM

    bigblue5611 says: Jun 14, 2012 1:59 PM

    Giants/Eli flat-out own Belichick and Brady. And this move clearly shows it’s eating that sore loser alive.

    2 Super Bowl wins over the Pats tarnishes Belichick and Brady’s legacy and that is such a beautiful thing.

    Giants baby! World Champs

    Come get some in 2012 =====================================

    Not a Pats fan or anything BUT, unless I’m mistaken the Giants have made the playoffs following a Super Bowl ONCE…EVER!!! Don’t worry, we’re ALL comin’ to get some some…
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    CAN’T WAIT……..

  30. wferg1121 says: Jun 15, 2012 12:28 AM

    thegronk87 says:Jun 14, 2012 3:55 PM
    the only reason the giants went 12-4 in 2008 folowing their super bowl was their easy schedule.
    This is a perfect example of someone who doesn’t know what they are talking about. The Giants played the AFC North in 08 just like this year, which included the eventual Superbowl Winner Pittsburg. The Giants had the toughest schedule that year and we put up over 200 yards rushing against Baltimore, and sacked Rothlisberger like 6 times and he spent the afternoon going backwards. The Giants were the best team that year by far, but Plax had to screw it up and shoot himself in the leg, so we lost to Philly in the playoffs who has always been a thorn in our arse.

  31. NakedCowboy! says: Jun 15, 2012 12:44 AM

    bb is really cruel… sticking mills on chily for 3 whole years…

  32. patsfiend says: Jun 15, 2012 2:29 PM

    More muck-raking the Pats for page views. The Giants screwed up. The Pats pounced. End of story.

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