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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;No meaningful progress&#8221; on Wes Welker deal</title>
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		<title>By: hooterdawg</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/14/no-meaningful-progress-on-wes-welker-deal/#comment-1834267</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hooterdawg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 02:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yawn...is this the best the new BMOC can produce?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn&#8230;is this the best the new BMOC can produce?</p>
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		<title>By: roastmeforbeingacardsfan</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/14/no-meaningful-progress-on-wes-welker-deal/#comment-1834097</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[roastmeforbeingacardsfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pay the man.... A reasonable amount of money... and then some.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pay the man&#8230;. A reasonable amount of money&#8230; and then some.</p>
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		<title>By: purpleguy</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/14/no-meaningful-progress-on-wes-welker-deal/#comment-1834058</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[purpleguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom Coughlin thinks there&#039;s some sort of unwritten rule the Pats are violating here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Coughlin thinks there&#8217;s some sort of unwritten rule the Pats are violating here.</p>
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		<title>By: mediasloppy</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/14/no-meaningful-progress-on-wes-welker-deal/#comment-1834043</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mediasloppy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The privileged of being a Patriot learning under the best coach that ever played football should be enough of a reward. Hell, you should pay them and be thankful you can fondle the grass in Gillette Stadium!

Yeah, that&#039;s a bit sarcastic. However, that is the mantra you&#039;ll hear from older Patriot players and  the media. 

I&#039;m looking at Welker&#039;s 2007 contract.  Players a  lot worse have gotten more money...

New England Patriots
Contract: 5 yr(s) / $18,100,000
Free Agent Type:UFA	
2007:	 550,000    Signing Bonus: $5.5 million
2008:	 1,400,000
2009:	 1,650,000
2010:	 1,900,000
2011:	 2,150,000	

However, 9.5 million isn&#039;t chump change this year and he is 31. It&#039;s probably the smart thing to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The privileged of being a Patriot learning under the best coach that ever played football should be enough of a reward. Hell, you should pay them and be thankful you can fondle the grass in Gillette Stadium!</p>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s a bit sarcastic. However, that is the mantra you&#8217;ll hear from older Patriot players and  the media. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking at Welker&#8217;s 2007 contract.  Players a  lot worse have gotten more money&#8230;</p>
<p>New England Patriots<br />
Contract: 5 yr(s) / $18,100,000<br />
Free Agent Type:UFA<br />
2007:	 550,000    Signing Bonus: $5.5 million<br />
2008:	 1,400,000<br />
2009:	 1,650,000<br />
2010:	 1,900,000<br />
2011:	 2,150,000	</p>
<p>However, 9.5 million isn&#8217;t chump change this year and he is 31. It&#8217;s probably the smart thing to do.</p>
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		<title>By: fringetastic</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/14/no-meaningful-progress-on-wes-welker-deal/#comment-1834041</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fringetastic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure DeSean is a good counter-example. In 2011, he only showed up the day before he&#039;d lose a year of service, ending a holdout (who doesn&#039;t get ripped for holding out?), plus he was deactivated for a game for missing a meeting, so he earned his &#039;malcontent&#039; label for that year. And yeah, once you pull crap like that it will be hard to get rid of the label - no matter the player&#039;s color. (Hillis, anyone?) 

This year he got the franchise tag then signed a huge contract 2 weeks later. Maybe I&#039;ve missed it but I haven&#039;t seen people ripping him for signing and showing up this year.

I&#039;m not saying there aren&#039;t some boneheaded people out there, but Welker isn&#039;t receiving some preferential treatment from the league or the media because he&#039;s white. It&#039;s because he didn&#039;t hold out, whine, or sulk. LeSean did in 2011.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure DeSean is a good counter-example. In 2011, he only showed up the day before he&#8217;d lose a year of service, ending a holdout (who doesn&#8217;t get ripped for holding out?), plus he was deactivated for a game for missing a meeting, so he earned his &#8216;malcontent&#8217; label for that year. And yeah, once you pull crap like that it will be hard to get rid of the label &#8211; no matter the player&#8217;s color. (Hillis, anyone?) </p>
<p>This year he got the franchise tag then signed a huge contract 2 weeks later. Maybe I&#8217;ve missed it but I haven&#8217;t seen people ripping him for signing and showing up this year.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying there aren&#8217;t some boneheaded people out there, but Welker isn&#8217;t receiving some preferential treatment from the league or the media because he&#8217;s white. It&#8217;s because he didn&#8217;t hold out, whine, or sulk. LeSean did in 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: zimaman</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/14/no-meaningful-progress-on-wes-welker-deal/#comment-1834028</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zimaman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[briang123 says: 
Jun 14, 2012 5:31 PM 
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yeah but Wes has not uttered a negative word or behaved unprofessionally.  how can the media rip him for signing the tender and showing up for work?

this is clearly not the example to make your claim briang123.  the player is not sitting out and not whinning about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>briang123 says:<br />
Jun 14, 2012 5:31 PM<br />
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<p>yeah but Wes has not uttered a negative word or behaved unprofessionally.  how can the media rip him for signing the tender and showing up for work?</p>
<p>this is clearly not the example to make your claim briang123.  the player is not sitting out and not whinning about it.</p>
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		<title>By: briang123</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[briang123]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes I can name a player of color that showed up and got ripped anyway. Desean Jackson.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I can name a player of color that showed up and got ripped anyway. Desean Jackson.</p>
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		<title>By: zimaman</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/14/no-meaningful-progress-on-wes-welker-deal/#comment-1833996</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zimaman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the Patriots already made their offer and it was rebuked by Wes

The signing of the GRONK was a clear signal by the Patriots that they have moved on.

This is the way they do business and to steal a line from Hyman Roth: &quot;this is the life we have chosen&quot;.

This does not mean that a deal with Wes cant get done.  What is does mean is that he is going to have to go to the Patriots and say I want to stay and how is it going to happen.  If he really wants to stay he needs to go to his Agent and tell him to make a deal. Otherwise its not happening.  Wes it just might be too late for this year and you might have to wait until next. You snooze you lose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Patriots already made their offer and it was rebuked by Wes</p>
<p>The signing of the GRONK was a clear signal by the Patriots that they have moved on.</p>
<p>This is the way they do business and to steal a line from Hyman Roth: &#8220;this is the life we have chosen&#8221;.</p>
<p>This does not mean that a deal with Wes cant get done.  What is does mean is that he is going to have to go to the Patriots and say I want to stay and how is it going to happen.  If he really wants to stay he needs to go to his Agent and tell him to make a deal. Otherwise its not happening.  Wes it just might be too late for this year and you might have to wait until next. You snooze you lose.</p>
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		<title>By: 69finfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[69finfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Briang123;

Better call in Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Sounds like a case for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Briang123;</p>
<p>Better call in Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Sounds like a case for them.</p>
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		<title>By: fringetastic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fringetastic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@briang123:
He isn&#039;t labeled &quot;a malcontent or diva&quot; because he signed the contract, showed up for work and congratulated his teammate on getting a nice contract. Can you name anyone of any color who does that and gets called a malcontent?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@briang123:<br />
He isn&#8217;t labeled &#8220;a malcontent or diva&#8221; because he signed the contract, showed up for work and congratulated his teammate on getting a nice contract. Can you name anyone of any color who does that and gets called a malcontent?</p>
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		<title>By: CKL</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CKL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s an awesome slot receiver but I don&#039;t think that many of those get the big bucks. I can&#039;t see the Pats budging off their latest reportedly reduced offer. I&#039;ll hate seeing him in another uniform, but I&#039;m guessing that&#039;s where he will be in 2013. I&#039;ll just enjoy watching him this year even more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s an awesome slot receiver but I don&#8217;t think that many of those get the big bucks. I can&#8217;t see the Pats budging off their latest reportedly reduced offer. I&#8217;ll hate seeing him in another uniform, but I&#8217;m guessing that&#8217;s where he will be in 2013. I&#8217;ll just enjoy watching him this year even more.</p>
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		<title>By: briang123</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[briang123]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny how the white WR isn&#039;t labeled a malcontent or diva.  If he were black, there would be 100+ comments calling him every racial code word in the book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how the white WR isn&#8217;t labeled a malcontent or diva.  If he were black, there would be 100+ comments calling him every racial code word in the book.</p>
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		<title>By: bingobrown12</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/14/no-meaningful-progress-on-wes-welker-deal/#comment-1833899</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bingobrown12]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s the rush the deadline is July 16]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the rush the deadline is July 16</p>
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		<title>By: nfloracle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nfloracle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s punishment for the foot jokes about Rex Ryan in that hilarious press conference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s punishment for the foot jokes about Rex Ryan in that hilarious press conference.</p>
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		<title>By: ravensgrl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ravensgrl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d settle for 9.5 Million too...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d settle for 9.5 Million too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: supremekingz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[supremekingz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wes Welker is a true class act, and he&#039;s leading the class of new playmakers in the NFL. While it seems everyone and every sport is getting bigger at each position. Guys like Welker, Victor Cruz, Jones-Drew, Ray Rice are becoming an increasing commodity because of their shiftiness and athleticism that  bigger guys have a hard time defending. 

He hasn&#039;t made much of a fuss and I hope they pay the man. (And this is from a true Pats Hater)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wes Welker is a true class act, and he&#8217;s leading the class of new playmakers in the NFL. While it seems everyone and every sport is getting bigger at each position. Guys like Welker, Victor Cruz, Jones-Drew, Ray Rice are becoming an increasing commodity because of their shiftiness and athleticism that  bigger guys have a hard time defending. </p>
<p>He hasn&#8217;t made much of a fuss and I hope they pay the man. (And this is from a true Pats Hater)</p>
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