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Ginsberg chastises Goodell for distortion of evidence, demands reversal of suspension

Peter Ginsberg, Billy Martin, Joel Segal AP

The Commissioner of the National Football League rarely gets talked to in the way he got talked to today.

On Monday Goodell got an earful from lawyer Peter Ginsberg in the initial session of the bounty hearings.

As set forth below, Ginsberg accused Goodell of failing to conduct a fair process and distorting facts, calling the proceedings “shocking and shameful.”  Multiple sources tell PFT that Ginsberg’s remarks were “heated,” and one source present at the session perceived that Goodell’s face turned red during Ginsberg’s rant.

Ginsberg also claimed that former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams and former Saints assistant Michael Cerullo have since retracted any claim that the players actually were engaged in a bounty program.  That’s an allegation that hasn’t previously been made and, if true, would be extremely significant.

Ginsberg concluded by demanding that Goodell rescind the punishment of Ginsberg’s client, Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma, and apologize publicly.

Though it wasn’t quite an Animal House-style march out, Vilma and Ginsberg left the hearings after the initial session, and they did not return when the hearing resumed in the afternoon.

PFT has obtained a copy of the uncertified rough draft transcript from the morning session.  Ginsberg’s remarks are summarized below or, for those of you reading this in the Rumor Mill, after the jump.

“We have been willing to meet with you for months now,” Ginsberg said to Goodell after addressing alleged jurisdictional issues with the appeal process.  “If you, sir, were prepared to exchange fairly and thoroughly in a process in which we could have a discourse and you, Commissioner, could come to a better understanding of what, in fact, occurred with the New Orleans Saints.  If you had presented us with a modicum of due process, if you had elicited or evidenced any willingness to share the evidence with us, we were more than prepared to [engage] in a full [dialogue].

“Instead, Commissioner, you have deprived us of the most fundamental rights, you have provided us with no evidence either in a timely fashion or other to support any of the horrific accusation and allegations that you have made about Mr. Vilma.  You have been unwilling to [engage] in any fair [dialogue] or any fair exchange.  You have made serious allegations an in light of those allegations, in light of what you claim to be important to the NFL and in light of you, sir, your supposed concern for the integrity of this sport and in light of the consequences, Jonathan Vilma both personally and professional, we have as you know found these process[es] and these proceedings to be shocking and shameful.

“From the very beginning, Mr. Vilma asked you to do two things, Commissioner Goodell.  One was to investigate as thoroughly [you] could what lay behind your supposed accusation and the other thing Mr. Vilma asked you to do as to listen to him because he was prepared to tell the whole truth about your supposed — about your accusations.

“We have, in fact, engaged in a thorough investigation.  It has been [stymied] in part, sir, because you haven’t issued gag orders to people with evidence, former coaches, people with [the] New Orleans Saints, you had made threats to keep them from talking, you have refused to have them even participate in today’s proceedings, but nonetheless, Commissioner Goodell, we have talked to dozens of people, literally dozens of people regarding your allegations.  We have spend months gathering information and we have compared that information to your descriptions, your public descriptions. . . .  But in preparing with what you have accused Mr. Vilma with the information that we have gathered, we have found the following, Commissioner Goodell.”

Ginsberg at that point accused Goodell of distorting the facts, pointing to the email message Mike Ornstein sent from prison in September 2011, which supposedly offered a $5,000 bounty on Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers for the Week One game between the Saints and Green Bay.  Ginsberg also mentioned Hargrove’s declaration as being “distorted . . . in the media” by the league.

“You have taken words that Gregg Williams used, colorful words like cart-offs and wax and [kill the head] and have chosen publicly to distort the meaning of those words notwithstanding the fact that Mr. Williams and others ha told you that those terms in no way relate to illegal hits or any bounty program that you have decided, sir, to misrepresent what those words, in fact, mean,” Ginsberg said.

Ginsberg also cites “substantial evidence” that Williams and former Saints assistant (and suspected whistleblower) Mike Cerullo “retracted directly and affirmatively and without equivocation any claims they have previously made about a bounty program,” explaining that the league has not disclosed those retractions.

“Your office leaked to the press a couple weeks ago a supposed ledger which theoretically provided evidence of a bounty program,” Ginsberg said.  “And when the media analyzed this supposed ledger, it became clear [apparently] even to the NFL office that since no players were identified in that supposed ledger, there was no tying of that ledger to any way to a bounty program.  You have chosen after airing it out publicly not even to include that ledger in the documents you provided in an untimely fashion with regard to this proceeding.”

Ginsberg then pushed toward a conclusion of his remarks, apparently hoping to end strong.

“Sir, we have looked at the objective evidence as well as looked at the Gregg Williams video and spoken to people and we have looked at the statistics, we have looked at game film, we have looked at penalties, we have concluded and I think it is irrefutable that there is nothing objective that can support what you have accused Mr. Vilma of having done publicly,” Ginsberg said.  “Commissioner Goodell, Jonathan Vilma has never participated in a bounty program.  He has never put up any money designed to hurt an opposing player. He has never received any money for hurting another player. He has never intended to hurt another player and he has never in any way provided any incentive for any of his teammates to have hurt another playing.

“Commissioner Goodell, what you have done is to make some horrible accusations about Mr. Vilma’s person, about his integrity and about his professionalism. You have imposed a misplaced punishment and, sir, you have cast a shadow not only on Mr. Vilma personally and professionally, and I dare say under NFL and under the offices of the Commissioner in engaging in these proceedings, there’s just one and just one result in this proceeding and that is for you to rescind any punishment against Mr. Vilma and to apologize in public for what you have done.”

Though it’s unlikely Goodell will comply, it feels inevitable that Vilma and Goodell eventually will be hashing this out before someone who wears a black robe on a regular basis — and there won’t be much gray between their respective positions.

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75 Responses to “Ginsberg chastises Goodell for distortion of evidence, demands reversal of suspension”
  1. thingamajig says: Jun 18, 2012 6:28 PM

    Obviously Ginsberg hasn’t talked with Peter King about the charges against his client.

  2. folkcrusader says: Jun 18, 2012 6:29 PM

    Is it me or does Ginsberg look like Skeletor?

  3. jerrysandusky1 says: Jun 18, 2012 6:29 PM

    This story is getting as lame as the non-stop lockout dribble last season. Goodell is the King of the NFL. This pencil neck lawyer doesn’t know who he messing with.

  4. sbdt says: Jun 18, 2012 6:29 PM

    You go, girl.

  5. connie73 says: Jun 18, 2012 6:31 PM

    Goodell has way to much power. He is judge and jury which is not fair.

  6. fijabbersman345 says: Jun 18, 2012 6:33 PM

    Well isn’t this just a mess?

  7. diesel23 says: Jun 18, 2012 6:33 PM

    sick of hearing of these suspensions these players need to just shut up and serve these suspensions, not backing goodell either because i cant stand him

  8. eaglebobby says: Jun 18, 2012 6:33 PM

    So why, Mr Ginsberg, did your client REFUSE to meet with the commisioner when he was first asked to? And why hasn’t Gregg Williams called a public press conference to retract his statments? He doesn’t need the NFL’s permission to call a press conference if, indeed, he has retracted his previous statements–why hasn’t Sean Payton, or Mickey Loomis, for that matter, called their own press conferences to retract “their apologies”? Ginsberg’s a hired gun and a lot of hot air.

  9. gmen4life33 says: Jun 18, 2012 6:34 PM

    that cray

  10. thingamajig says: Jun 18, 2012 6:35 PM

    “We have been willing to meet with you for months now,” Ginsberg said to Goodell

    But yet they failed to return for the second half of the hearing.

  11. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Jun 18, 2012 6:36 PM

    Why would Gregg Williams admit to the bounty program if it didn’t happen?

  12. silentcount says: Jun 18, 2012 6:37 PM

    And expect for Goodell to lose in a court room that abides by fair rules.

  13. mike5011ad says: Jun 18, 2012 6:37 PM

    *crowd chants “JERRY!, JERRY!, JERRY!”*

  14. stealthjunk says: Jun 18, 2012 6:38 PM

    Yawn. Ironic that Mr. Ginsberg presented zero evidence that his client was not involved, yet complains that Goodell did the same thing. It’s easy to complain about the process when you have nothing good to say about the merits of the case.

  15. irishnativeson says: Jun 18, 2012 6:38 PM

    Is Ginsberg any relation to Jim Garrison?

  16. mattyscho says: Jun 18, 2012 6:40 PM

    more than goodell bargained for

  17. georgiavol91 says: Jun 18, 2012 6:41 PM

    Gotta give Goodell credit for not kicking Ginsberg’s ass right on the spot if your post is true.

  18. 86chawk says: Jun 18, 2012 6:41 PM

    Another blow-hole lawyer trying to make a name for himself.

  19. glynners says: Jun 18, 2012 6:41 PM

    I would have paid serious money to have watched that

  20. vanmorrissey says: Jun 18, 2012 6:41 PM

    OK, then it was all made up, the whole thing. Sue for slander then, I dare you. See if that will hold up in court.

  21. schmokes says: Jun 18, 2012 6:42 PM

    So according to Ginsberg, Vilma was willing to speak with Goodell about the bounties….except of course during the entire investigation when the league was requesting it…nice try Jonathan.

  22. northeastkiller says: Jun 18, 2012 6:42 PM

    Go get ‘em, Ginsburg! If they can get it into court, this guy will tear Commissioner Joffrey down even worse!

  23. jaltreality says: Jun 18, 2012 6:43 PM

    Not to mention, statements by Gregg Williams should be taken with a grain of salt. He has a lifetime ban from the NFL that can be lifted only if Goodell decides it so. Is it any surprise that a man in such a position will have to say things to appease the man who can decide the fate of his career?

  24. stevez51 says: Jun 18, 2012 6:43 PM

    You won’t get away with this mister…..

  25. FinFan68 says: Jun 18, 2012 6:44 PM

    That entire rant was nothing more than an avenue to start the foundation for the defamation lawsuit that is in play. The defamation suit is no more than an attempt to get money in a way other than his nonexistent 2012 paychecks. Vilma could have kept most of this out of the media but he chose to publicly cry foul rather than meet with Goodell. I’m not saying Goodell has handled this well, just that Vilma’s “victimization” has largely come at his own hands. I have no doubt that Vilma offered $10K for Favre getting knocked out of the game. That is enough to warrant his suspension whether or not his teammates were able to try to collect or not.

  26. walkingtalking1 says: Jun 18, 2012 6:45 PM

    Sounds to me like he was just setting up his case against Goodell later this summer. Who knows if anthing he said was true. It’s just Vilma’s word against Goodell.

  27. hey804 says: Jun 18, 2012 6:46 PM

    Sweet sassy malassy.

  28. drgreenstreak says: Jun 18, 2012 6:46 PM

    Lawyers! HaHaHa!

    Tough-guy, overpaid big-mouth lawyer sounds like he was coached by Vilma on how to talk tough even though he has NO authority over anything, at all. HaHa! Idiot.
    Daytime drama with lawyers spewing feces.

  29. staffordsyear says: Jun 18, 2012 6:49 PM

    Good,hopefully this is the beginning of the end for goodell.

  30. thegreatgabbert says: Jun 18, 2012 6:50 PM

    Wow, Jonathan “Dog” Vilma had his mouthpiece turned up to full volume.

  31. bodybagx says: Jun 18, 2012 6:50 PM

    Everyone who’s been clamoring for Saints fans to “just accept it and move on” can officially add me into that category. I accept that the evidence clearly shows that we broke the rules and that the punishments will not be reduced.

    I’m not sure I’m buying the whole “pay-for-injuries” aspect of the deal, and the league’s handing of its evidence through the media has been pretty shady to say the least, but we got caught and one man is the final arbiter on such things and that’s that.

  32. packeranddarien says: Jun 18, 2012 6:50 PM

    Doesn’t matter, Ginsy.

    YOUR client’s players association signed off on the enforcement of discipline, as well as the appellate process with the league ( and the commissioner) with the new CBA.

    All the Daniel Caffee-esque chastising isn’t going to change that.

    Why don’t you hit up your boy DeMo? He’s the one to blame for this fiasco.

  33. sampulls says: Jun 18, 2012 6:51 PM

    Shocking News: Another lawyer who is interested in getting his own name out there than his clients interests.

  34. chad504boy says: Jun 18, 2012 6:57 PM

    I can’t wait for the day the Commissioner has to go to court outside of his NFL office.

  35. trubroncfan07 says: Jun 18, 2012 7:00 PM

    Finally a voice of reason! Fire Goodell!

  36. juddgr says: Jun 18, 2012 7:00 PM

    Unfortunately for the NFL it is getting a big black eye. Seems to me Goodall wants to be known as the KING of the NFL. His treatment of the Cowboys and Redskins, plus the Bounty-Gate. Has left him with little to say that could help the situation. I find it hard to beleive that he didn’t have some other owner telling him what he could do in one or both cases.
    Mr Commisioner it is time for you to resign and let some one else take over and be fair about everything!!!

  37. chandler1 says: Jun 18, 2012 7:01 PM

    Ginsberg is just like the Dems when they are cornered, lie and make counter claims. I hope Goodell unleases his rath on the saints and coaches further.

  38. donchathinkso says: Jun 18, 2012 7:04 PM

    Jolly Roger had better pray that the Vilma defamation suit gets thrown out, and it very well may not be.

    My guess is that the discovery process in the trial, if it goes forward, is that Goodell’s conduct in “investigating” the Saints bounty scandal will make Gregg Williams look like a Sunday school teacher.

    I miss the good old days of Pete Rozelle and Paul Tagliabue.

  39. donchathinkso says: Jun 18, 2012 7:08 PM

    vanmorrissey says: OK, then it was all made up, the whole thing. Sue for slander then, I dare you. See if that will hold up in court.

    Dare accepted: Vilma’s already suing for defamation.

  40. youafool says: Jun 18, 2012 7:11 PM

    Ginsberg also cites “substantial evidence” that Williams and former Saints assistant (and suspected whistleblower) Mike Cerullo “retracted directly and affirmatively and without equivocation any claims they have previously made about a bounty program,” explaining that the league has not disclosed those retractions.

    The comment above means absolutely nothing…so the guys that got suspended then changed their minds about what they admitted to? They were already booted they have nothing else to LOSE! Of course they are going to retract because they have probably received death threats from the players they outed.
    “revelations” after the case is closed don’t mean donkey spit

  41. chubbsmcgee says: Jun 18, 2012 7:13 PM

    To everyone saying “I can’t wait for a judge to put Goodell in his place”

    Guess what? Collectively bargained appeals processes need not be fair. This is what the players agreed to in order to get shorter camps and a better parking space. Stupid gets what stupid deserves.

  42. northeastkiller says: Jun 18, 2012 7:14 PM

    Different thread, same posters claiming things that aren’t true.

    “GW admitted to a bounty program!” – no, he admitted to a pay-for-performance system, turnovers, big hits, etc. NOWHERE in his statement does he admit to pay-for-injury. Learn to read.

    “Why wouldn’t they issue retractions publicly?” – because the same person who suspended them and upheld their suspensions gets to decide whether they’re sorry enough to be reinstated! Use your head, geez.

  43. chubbsmcgee says: Jun 18, 2012 7:14 PM

    vanmorrissey says: OK, then it was all made up, the whole thing. Sue for slander then, I dare you. See if that will hold up in court.

    They have. And it won’t.

  44. 88ibis says: Jun 18, 2012 7:19 PM

    So in other words, Vilma and his lawyer showed up at the hearing to attack Goodell then left, knowing that the media would print the attack in full. Classy.

  45. nflfan555 says: Jun 18, 2012 7:19 PM

    all lawyers blow – that dude is a donk

  46. efriedo says: Jun 18, 2012 7:20 PM

    “You have taken words that Gregg Williams used, colorful words like cart-offs and wax and [kill the head] and have chosen publicly to distort the meaning of those words notwithstanding the fact that Mr. Williams and others ha told you that those terms in no way relate to illegal hits or any bounty program…”

    ******************

    Obviously the term “Cart-Offs” means removing the hot dog cart from the locker room before the game. The player that does this gets $5000.

    Even more obvious is that the term “Kill the head” refers to cleaning the bathroom after the game. The player that does that gets $10,000. Everyone knows that!

  47. gingerkid2000 says: Jun 18, 2012 7:29 PM

    Gisburg is a horrible attorney. He has done nothing to help his client at all. These guys will continue to deny any and all evidence because so long as they do, it still implies a measure of doubt to their guilt. Problem with this strategy is the more evidence they ask to be made public, the more excuses they have to make for it. You can’t keep making excuse after excuse for every piece of evidence. I’m guessing these guys were given chances to cooperate or work with the NFL for a while and instead they chose not to and are being punished for that. Ginsburg needs to muzzle them because they’re coming across like whining children.

  48. donchathinkso says: Jun 18, 2012 7:30 PM

    chubbsmcgee says: Guess what? Collectively bargained appeals processes need not be fair.

    Agreed, and I give Vilma and his attorney credit for being creative and and seeking relief from outside of the CBA’s juristiction.

  49. peytonwantsaflag says: Jun 18, 2012 7:34 PM

    Did Keith Oberman ghost write that rant for him? Sounds like his particular style of hissy fit.

  50. Loose Changeup says: Jun 18, 2012 7:35 PM

    thankheavenfornumberseven says: Jun 18, 2012 6:36 PM
    Why would Gregg Williams admit to the bounty program if it didn’t happen?

    Coercion. His career was in the hands of Judge, Jury, and Executioner Goodell, and he had the choice to say what Goodell wanted to hear, or he’d never work again.

  51. Loose Changeup says: Jun 18, 2012 7:39 PM

    So, if the Saints had 488 “Kill The Heads” in 2010, what does that mean? Tackles? It’s obviously not injuries. So GW used a lot of colorful language in his presentations and talks. Got anything else?

  52. flannlv says: Jun 18, 2012 7:45 PM

    It’s apparent from some of the comments relating to this entire “scandal” are being made by people who have never engaged in organized team activities let alone football. “Kill the head” is not to be taken literally, it’s used to motivate. A review of the 200 pages presented leaves one with the impression that Goodell had predetermined his course of action and has attempted to contort innocuous statements to fit his desired outcome. Were the Saints engaged in a “pay for performance” system, yes. It also goes on in every locker room. Just review the comments from NYG players following the NFCCG.

    If anyone doesn’t think the player’s concussion lawsuits were the motivating factor for the suspensions they are simply ignoring reality.

  53. cgsuddeath says: Jun 18, 2012 7:45 PM

    After the way Goodell has handled other situations(NE Patriot evidence disposal)I hope he fries like an egg.

  54. hauts81 says: Jun 18, 2012 7:51 PM

    Jebus, I wish Ginsburg had gone after Goodell like that during the StarCaps fiasco.

  55. andrewfbrowne says: Jun 18, 2012 7:54 PM

    Old law saying:

    If you have the facts on your side, you pound the facts, if you have the law on your side, you pound the law, if you have neither you pound the table.

    Consider Vilma’s table splintered.

  56. themars211 says: Jun 18, 2012 8:03 PM

    stealthjunk says:
    Jun 18, 2012 6:38 PM
    Yawn. Ironic that Mr. Ginsberg presented zero evidence that his client was not involved, yet complains that Goodell did the same thing. It’s easy to complain about the process when you have nothing good to say about the merits of the case.

    ___________________________________

    If something did’nt occur how can he produce evidence to dispute it other than tell you he did’nt do it. Its a catch 22 for the players. If the players have evidence stating that they were not involved that means there was a “bounty” program. They have all denied that there was such a program so what evidence can they produce?

  57. letmesetyoustraight says: Jun 18, 2012 8:17 PM

    “one source present at the session perceived that Goodell’s face turned red during Ginsberg’s rant.”

    As well it should have. He should be embarrassed at how he has handled this whole affair. He has used the media to carry his water since day one, and continued again today by having a special session with a dozen of his favorite toady reporters.

    No commisioner in the past has ever grand-standed like this. It could not have been handled any more unprofessionally than it has been. All of this show in the name of player safety while still pushing for an 18 game season. The commisioner is wearing no clothes.

  58. duluthvikesfan says: Jun 18, 2012 8:21 PM

    Can’t help but think the NFL will have the last laugh in this. Does anyone really think the league would take this kind of action against players and coaches based just on flimsy evidence? I am sure the minute the league decided to hand down punishments they knew that one, if not all, of those suspended would try and take this to court. They are not handing over the hard evidence now because the don’t need to. In court they will and Goodell will then get the chance to look at the defendants and say “see, I told you I had evidence”. If I was Vilma, or any of the others, I would think twice about pushing this issue to far because the evidence you don’t think they have might come back to bite you.

  59. Scott says: Jun 18, 2012 8:21 PM

    Do you Saints players supporters even know what a commissioner is there for? He’s there to decide what is best for the league. Listen, we all know something happened that wasn’t kosher. We all know that there was money on the table to knock someone out of a game. So maybe the evidence isn’t a perfect smoking gun. We all know that some coaches and players are guilty. I’m sure it happens everywhere. Goodell is there to do what’s best for the NFL. He and his advisers think that throwing the book at the Saints will send a message to the whole league to cut this stuff out. It could have been any team…it just happens to be the Saints. Sucks to be a Saint fan right now. But in 4 months it won’t mean anything. I don’t like it, but Vilma has to do what he has to do (in suing for defamation) but the truth is, he’s guilty…just got caught bro. No matter how loud your lawyer yells, it’s not going to make a bit of difference.

  60. cwwgk says: Jun 18, 2012 8:33 PM

    Peter Ginsberg irresponsibly accusing a tribunal of being unfair? Seems to be his calling card. Mr. Ginsberg had his license to practice law in a Florida bankruptcy court suspended for five years. He was also fined over $370,000.00. Both sanctions were imposed because Mr. Ginsberg recklessly accused a federal judge of being biased. In an opinion dated July 11, 2009, a federal court of appeals upheld the suspension and fine and stated:

    “Yet, the record shows Ginsberg indulged in disrespectful statements without legal or factual foundation. Ginsberg ignored all facts indicating that the court did not direct or engage in ex parte communications, rely on extra judicial materials, or endorse [an opposing attorney’s] actions.”

    What’s that story about a boy crying wolf?

  61. eagleswin says: Jun 18, 2012 8:37 PM

    Maybe if Ginsberg wasn’t grandstanding to the media while the evidence was being shown to the players, he’d have an informed opinion.

  62. palinforpresidentofnorthkorea says: Jun 18, 2012 8:42 PM

    Well played, Sir! Post of the year!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    efriedo says: Jun 18, 2012 7:20 PM

    Obviously the term “Cart-Offs” means removing the hot dog cart from the locker room before the game. The player that does this gets $5000.

    Even more obvious is that the term “Kill the head” refers to cleaning the bathroom after the game. The player that does that gets $10,000. Everyone knows that!

  63. donchathinkso says: Jun 18, 2012 8:48 PM

    Scott says: Do you Saints players supporters even know what a commissioner is there for? He’s there to decide what is best for the league.

    That’s the crux of the problem- is suspending Vilma for an entire year really “good for the league”?

    Did Goodell really make the world a better place by suspending Terrell Pryor for five games?

    Sometimes a police officer has to use force, we all know that. But the last thing any community wants is a cop that LIKES to use force. And Goodell has demonstrated that he LIKES to suspend players.

    That’s why, as a fan, I dislike Goodell. It’s not about the “good of the game” with him.

  64. joyriderideem says: Jun 18, 2012 9:25 PM

    Kill the head is motivational… saints apologists are quick to skip past “take out his acl and he becomes human”…what is that motivating players to do?

  65. SmurfJuice says: Jun 18, 2012 9:52 PM

    My main question is, what did New Orleans do to piss Roger off?

    Everything that has been presented seems to be stuff that happens in every locker room, then fluffed up. Personally, I don’t have an opinion on who is right, and I don’t really care if the suspensions stand or not.

    The most damage to “The Shield” isn’t the players being spoiled athletes, it’s Roger not handling the situations properly. Goodell doesn’t know how to call a guy, ask about the wife and kids, and then question them about these problems. He prefers to build his offense in an underground lair, and unleash it in the media. Paul Tagliabue would have never done these things so publicly.

  66. bryans49ers says: Jun 18, 2012 10:00 PM

    Its time for the search for a new commissioner to begin.

  67. j0esixpack says: Jun 18, 2012 10:02 PM

    Ginsberg assessment of Goodell at the very least is spot on.

    In Spygate Goodell catered to the most ignorant fans to make the placement of a signal filming camera (on the sidelines, rather than the stands) akin to the most egregious form of cheating in sports.

    Clueless idiotic fans bought it hook line and sinker and still do today.

    I wouldn’t put it past him to sacrifice players and an organization’s reputation to cover up a deeper problem – including the fact that his own injury reporting policy directly contributed to placing player safety at risk.

  68. omniscient48 says: Jun 18, 2012 10:33 PM

    I thought this was going to be an article about Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

  69. 1122world says: Jun 18, 2012 10:37 PM

    Goodell is being kind to them.
    And Ginsberg the snake I’d betting on the fact that Goodell won’t give up his sources so the viper is ridding him.
    But not for long ….
    Scum

  70. packersbound says: Jun 18, 2012 11:19 PM

    MUST FIRE GODDELL at NFL Headquarter Office on Park Ave!!

  71. mnlittle says: Jun 19, 2012 12:09 AM

    Jerry Jones and little Danny Snyder need to hire this guy!

  72. gavriloprincip33 says: Jun 19, 2012 12:24 AM

    Loose Changeup says:
    Jun 18, 2012 7:35 PM
    thankheavenfornumberseven says: Jun 18, 2012 6:36 PM
    Why would Gregg Williams admit to the bounty program if it didn’t happen?

    Coercion. His career was in the hands of Judge, Jury, and Executioner Goodell, and he had the choice to say what Goodell wanted to hear, or he’d never work again.

    ++++++++++

    @ Loose Changeup

    I find plenty to agree with in your post. That said, if Gregg Williams had an ounce of integrity he would have told the truth about everything and worried about his employment later…

    We know what he did though, don’t we?

  73. bigmalice says: Jun 19, 2012 12:46 AM

    stealthjunk says:
    Jun 18, 2012 6:38 PM
    Yawn. Ironic that Mr. Ginsberg presented zero evidence that his client was not involved, yet complains that Goodell did the same thing. It’s easy to complain about the process when you have nothing good to say about the merits of the case.

    —————————————————
    Bro….um…. you cant prove a negative. Burden of evidence is on the accuser. Cmon. youre smarter than that

  74. bigjdve says: Jun 19, 2012 11:49 AM

    It looks like Ginsburg is trying to play this like it is a Courtroom. However, right now it isn’t. Later in the summer it will be and his argument might work better.

    However for right now, to quote Vilma” Goodell is the judge, jury, and executioner”. So yelling at him, calling him names, and giving him orders is a really great way to get him to change his mind.

    Maybe he should’ve tried pleading his case, you know like they do in courtrooms in order to get the suspension reduced or reversed.

    Wait until your court date to rant and rave.

  75. patsaintsbroncoscheat says: Jun 19, 2012 3:05 PM

    Ginsburg is an idiot. The Saints got what they deserved. If anything the punishment is a little light.

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