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Vince Young at risk by not picking up offense quickly enough

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Even while saying he’s satisfied with how quarterback Vince Young has looked so far, Bills coach Chan Gailey admitted Young is having trouble picking up his offense.

Gailey has gradually added to his offense over the last two seasons, putting more in as starter Ryan Fitzpatrick has been able to adjust.

“He has done a very good job, considering the circumstances,” Gailey said of Young, via Tim Graham of the Buffalo News. “He had to come in and try to learn all of that stuff. It is very difficult.

“It would not have been as hard two years ago, but we are in so much more of an advanced stage now than we were two years ago. He is trying to learn what the base concepts are and how we have advanced to where we are today without the benefit of going through the baby steps.”

Making it worse for Young is the fact everyone else there is caught up. Fitzpatrick and all the meaningful skill position players have been in the system since Gailey arrived.

Gailey also admitted that background gives quarterback Tyler Thigpen, in his second year with the Bills, an advantage in the battle for the backup job.

Having already established there’s probably only room for one of them, Young better catch up quick, or he’ll be looking for another (dream) team.

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  1. raiders757 says: Jun 21, 2012 7:41 PM

    Hate to say it, but this just proves he doesn’t have “the smarts” to play QB at the NFL level. Maybe he can be used in another capacity, as he does have some football talent that could be utilized.

  2. maddenisfordorks says: Jun 21, 2012 7:42 PM

    “can’t nobody tell me nothin’”

  3. bleedgreen says: Jun 21, 2012 7:48 PM

    Is anyone shocked? Andy Reid doesn’t give up on QBs and he gave up on VY by week 6 last year because he couldn’t learn the offense.

  4. cush2push says: Jun 21, 2012 7:48 PM

    No Thiggy is gone if Gailey thought a broken ribbed Fitzpatrick was better than a HEALTHY Thiggy then they go out and sign Young the signs point to Thiggy goneeeeeeeee

  5. jimbo75025 says: Jun 21, 2012 7:50 PM

    Didn’t Fitzpatrick go to Harvard whereas nobody has ever accused VY of being a rocket scientist? Might also be part of the difference.

  6. tigershark49 says: Jun 21, 2012 7:53 PM

    It’s funny how Vince thinks a team is a dream team when he joins it.

  7. effedinLA says: Jun 21, 2012 7:57 PM

    This is the same reason Donovan McNabb isn’t signed. He can’t pick up a new offense quickly enough. Arm strength doesn’t matter as much what’s between the ears.

  8. hyzers says: Jun 21, 2012 7:59 PM

    Didn’t VY get like a 10 on his Wonderlic?

  9. rebelphotographer says: Jun 21, 2012 8:03 PM

    Call me crazy, but maybe it’s because Vince Young is one of the least intelligent players in NFL history.

  10. rcali says: Jun 21, 2012 8:05 PM

    VY was awesome at college football.

  11. teal379 says: Jun 21, 2012 8:10 PM

    I remember when VY came out and some noise was made about his ham sandwich level Wonderlic.

    2 sides developed.

    1 side said it mattered. That VY wasn’t going to be the tour de force his fans were saying. They said that he wasn’t smart enough to play at the next level.

    The other side said his athleticism was what mattered. That the Wonderlic was a BS tool and the fact he went to such a great university like Texas and had won a lot. He’ll be fine.

    Wondering how long before we know which side was right…….

  12. illiniftw says: Jun 21, 2012 8:12 PM

    I’m shocked…. VY always seemed so intelligent!

  13. txxxchief says: Jun 21, 2012 8:19 PM

    This proves that the Wonderlic means nothing.

  14. 20dawkins says: Jun 21, 2012 8:27 PM

    It will take him 2 weeks to figure out which end of the clipboard is the top

  15. tweeter75 says: Jun 21, 2012 8:27 PM

    Are there still people out there who think the Wonderlic test score doesn’t mean anything?

  16. fdugrad says: Jun 21, 2012 8:36 PM

    Still think the test in rookie screening that came up ridiculously low is not worth some sort of insight into your ability to assimilate the complexities of the position Vince?

  17. preston0036 says: Jun 21, 2012 8:39 PM

    Raider 757 i hate to say it your a Hater give the guy the Chance to learn the Offense its like his third or fourth have you forgot he was Rookie of the Year Posted a record of 36-13 been to Two Probowls Saved Jeff Fishers Job they were 0-6 When Young got them to 9-7!!! things just havnr gobw his way watch him make thw Team ,watch Fitzpatrick Fold again and watch VY flourish!!!

  18. mymanmccoy says: Jun 21, 2012 8:41 PM

    And people say the wonderlic test has no bearing?

  19. gojags says: Jun 21, 2012 9:04 PM

    VY Graduated from Ocho Cinco’s school of Football 101.

  20. whatswiththehate says: Jun 21, 2012 9:05 PM

    Oh gee, another stereotypical, they’re aren’t as smart as our QB jab at VY and McNabb…So boring.

    I wonder if we will ever hear about Luck not picking up the offense? I doubt it since he’s automatically preceived to be so smart.

  21. txtuff says: Jun 21, 2012 9:08 PM

    10 years from now “What is a VY?”.

  22. ebbycalvinlaloosh says: Jun 21, 2012 9:16 PM

    Maybe the Jets should sign him. They’re already catering to one backup QB that doesn’t have the mental capacity to understand the passing game. Maybe VY and TT could be study buddies.

  23. FinFan68 says: Jun 21, 2012 9:21 PM

    He is just plain dumb. Add that to his history of being emotionally unstable and it is a gamble for any team to keep him on even as a back-up. His athleticism is the only reason teams have at least looked at him. Maybe he just needs a “wildcat” kinda set. He goes in under various situations and he has a limited number of plays to learn. His personality probably won’t let him embrace a role like that but it may be his only option if he wants to continue receiving checks the size of NFL veteran money.

  24. jimbo75025 says: Jun 21, 2012 9:23 PM

    preston0036 says:Jun 21, 2012 8:39 PM

    Raider 757 i hate to say it your a Hater give the guy the Chance to learn the Offense its like his third or fourth have you forgot he was Rookie of the Year Posted a record of 36-13 been to Two Probowls Saved Jeff Fishers Job they were 0-6 When Young got them to 9-7!!!

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    Huh? 36-13? Vy’s record as a starter was barely .500. I believe you are counting the year the Totans went 13-3 in favor of VY when he was riding the pine watching Kerry Collins play.

  25. hooks024 says: Jun 21, 2012 9:42 PM

    Maybe that wonderlict test score really was relevant.

  26. seanx40 says: Jun 21, 2012 9:45 PM

    I wonder how Young is going to figure out the exchange rate with Canada in his next job?

  27. greeneblitz says: Jun 21, 2012 9:49 PM

    Punt Team????

  28. wfingers23 says: Jun 21, 2012 9:52 PM

    fdugrad says:
    Jun 21, 2012 8:36 PM
    Still think the test in rookie screening that came up ridiculously low is not worth some sort of insight into your ability to assimilate the complexities of the position Vince?

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    He got a -4 on the test and you’re tossing out assimilate and complexities?

  29. bereado says: Jun 21, 2012 9:56 PM

    Vince Young is a complete mental midget. Ten million dollar arm, one cent head.

  30. deertay says: Jun 21, 2012 10:31 PM

    Count your blessings Texans fans.

  31. letsgotitans says: Jun 21, 2012 10:36 PM

    I’m glad he isn’t our issue here in TN anymore, he never picked up our offense and we were run first with maybe 5 total passing plays for VY to learn. So much talent but stuck mentally @ 6 years old! Momma must have dropped him on his head and it just stopped time for him.

  32. larrybrown43 says: Jun 21, 2012 10:50 PM

    Just another guy who loved his celebrity more than doing the unglamerous work of staying late to study film and stay up late at home studying the playbook.

    Neither Brady nor Manning got into a bar fights with their posse.

    Also, yet another reason to not buy into the media hype of a can’t miss who did.

  33. offkiltereagle says: Jun 21, 2012 10:58 PM

    preston0036 says: things just havnr gobw his way watch him make thw Team ,watch Fitzpatrick Fold again and watch VY flourish!!!

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    Vince!?! Is that you!?! Words are hard, huh?.

  34. doublebro says: Jun 21, 2012 11:10 PM

    As a Texan fan I can assure you the only ones delusional enough to think there was any chance the Texans would draft/sign him were the fanboys (or VY himself)…..he was and never has been on the Texans radar.

  35. 00reo says: Jun 21, 2012 11:24 PM

    What?? VY is as dumb as a box of rocks? That’s news to all us Titans fans……….

  36. clu1perceiver says: Jun 21, 2012 11:28 PM

    Great athletic gifts can take you a long way; couple those with character and brains you go further. Just like athletic talent, intellectual ability must be developed.Whatever VY’s innate mental capacity may be, he has yet to successfully engage it to become a more proficient QB. Use any explanation you want, slow learner, can’t learn, or won’t; until we stop enabling these guys with PC excuses and dishonest evaluation of their capability fair judgement of their careers is impossible.

  37. billsfan1 says: Jun 21, 2012 11:48 PM

    so between Vy and Fitz, who is better off after football

  38. bigbadal21 says: Jun 21, 2012 11:48 PM

    Tony Dorsett was a truely amazing NFL running back. What many people do not know is that he had a brother who was a lot more talented than he was. In fact it was not even close. His brother was faster more athletic and much better in every way imaginable except one. Tonys brother was dumber than a box of rocks. You could hand him a football and nobody could catch him or tackle him but he could not learn a playbook. He could not read or write and that was the least of his problems. But man could he run with that ball. Now Vince is probably a little smarter than that but you get my point.

  39. granadafan says: Jun 22, 2012 12:00 AM

    Not many good QBs came out of Texas… or smart ones.

  40. jamarcuslives says: Jun 22, 2012 1:38 AM

    jimbo75025 says:Jun 21, 2012 7:50 PM

    Didn’t Fitzpatrick go to Harvard whereas nobody has ever accused VY of being a rocket scientist? Might also be part of the difference.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@

    Oh and Fitzpatrick is so brilliant that he led the leage in interceptions last year, 17 of them in the second half of the season! VY will be the starter by game 5.

  41. jfinn5 says: Jun 22, 2012 1:58 AM

    Maybe he can make a Dream Team in the Arena League.

  42. katolungile says: Jun 22, 2012 2:08 AM

    Fitzpatrick went to Harvard, and then you have Vince Young… Can’t make that stuff up.

  43. fourthandafoot says: Jun 22, 2012 2:18 AM

    Zero point zero…

  44. randallflagg52 says: Jun 22, 2012 4:06 AM

    Yet another Texas bust. Who, other than Earl Thomas, is an impact player from that school in the past decade?

    Hook ‘em horns?

  45. 315judman says: Jun 22, 2012 6:36 AM

    Recently it was pointed out that the Bills are only on the hook for about $350k with VY (his signing bonus). Although that is crazy money to me, it isn’t a bad price to pay to see if VY would fit on an NFL team. Buffalo is trying it out. And let’s face it… this Bills fan is excited to see them finally doing things like this. Improvement is needed. Buddy and Chan are trying very hard to improve this team.

  46. mp42245 says: Jun 22, 2012 6:49 AM

    Didn’t he score a zero on his wonderlic and Fitzpatrack score a gazillion. Shouldn’t be too hard to figure this out.

  47. joetoronto says: Jun 22, 2012 7:09 AM

    Vince young can’t read a comic book, much less a play book.

  48. EJ says: Jun 22, 2012 7:53 AM

    If Thigpen beats out Young for the backup position, Vince needs to hang up his cleats.

  49. voiceofrealism says: Jun 22, 2012 8:09 AM

    preston0036 says: Jun 21, 2012 8:39 PM

    Raider 757 i hate to say it your a Hater…..
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    Unless you want to appear as ignorant as Vince Young, try using real English words to express yourself instead of made up slang like Hater.

  50. vex24 says: Jun 22, 2012 8:15 AM

    Ryan Fitzpatrick is very intelligent, in fact he’s more intelligent than Tom Bradey, Peyton & Eli Manning, Brett Farve, Etc…That said, if Profootball was all about GPA and Wonderlic then rocket scientists would be the Pro Bowlers. VY struggles with a lot of cerebral concepts, but when bullets are flying and the pass protection breaks down, and VY scrambles outside of the pocket….Notice how many Defenses begin to Struggle for answers! I’m a Bengal fan RF was a good #2 QB during his time in Cincy. I’m happy that he’s doing very well, now. That Said, VY is scarey when he’s got Defenders on their heals, and he CAN make a great change of pace off the bench QB, if properly developed.

  51. raiders757 says: Jun 22, 2012 11:59 AM

    preston0036 says: Jun 21, 2012 8:39 PM

    Raider 757 i hate to say it your a Hater give the guy the Chance to learn the Offense

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    I have no reason to hate the guy. I’m just calling it how I see it. The guy has been in the league long enough to prove himself and has failed to live up to the hype. He hasn’t proven that he has what it takes upstairs to play QB at the NFL level, and saying that is not being a “hater”. It’s just a subjective observation.

  52. fdugrad says: Jun 22, 2012 12:01 PM

    wfingers23: Point taken!!

  53. urhooked says: Jun 25, 2012 11:41 AM

    He just needs a little time to learn the offense. Most of the offensive players in Buffalo have had two years in the system. You are dead wrong if you think VY can’t run this offense. He can do some damage in the spread, esp if he can work from the outside and use his running ability.

    All hating aside, VY is the best quarteback on the Bills’ roster. Fitz threw 23 picks last year, and he’s continued the trend in OTA’s. Just go to buffalobills.com and watch the practice highlights. These videos also show that VY is pretty on point with his passes.

    We will see when camp starts. I like VY’s chances to solidify the backup spot when the preseason games start..and to push for a starter’s role if Fitz keeps throwing picks.

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