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Mike Karney, part of bounty evidence, declares Saints “evil”

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Among the other oddments in the nearly 200 pages of bounty evidence the league has revealed, there was a page devoted to fullback Mike Karney.

That was unusual, even to Mike Karney, who said he took it as a badge of honor.

“I’m not mad about it,” Karney told Jeff Duncan of the New Orleans Times-Picayune. “I take it as a compliment. I love it.”

Karney played for the Saints for 2004 to 2008, the biggest part of his seven-year career. But when he was about to play against them as a member of the Rams in 2009, players were shown a slide with his image in a defensive meeting.

Under the frankly cartoonish heading “MIKE [EXPLETIVE] KARNEY,” the slide featured three photos of Karney and a paragraph of stats and a quote referring to whether he had hard feelings about being released by the Saints.

“I wouldn’t expect them to have my real middle name up there: Michael John Mario Karney,” he said. “That doesn’t do anything does it? I guess they just love me that much.”

Karney was careful to say he had no problems with the players involved, insisting he didn’t recall any cheap hits during the game. But he had strong words for Saints coach Sean Payton and general manager Mickey Loomis.

“Evil does not prevail,” Karney said. “Everything in life eventually comes back to you full circle. It brought them a Super Bowl championship [in 2009]. But it also brought them a lot of bad baggage. There’s a lot of evil in that organization.”

Maybe now we know why they didn’t use his real middle name.

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23 Responses to “Mike Karney, part of bounty evidence, declares Saints “evil””
  1. philwauke says: Jun 22, 2012 8:25 AM

    Now I really have to question the NFL. Who would put a bounty on a fullback when their yds per rush are worse when he’s on the field?

  2. reporterofthetruth says: Jun 22, 2012 8:29 AM

    Blocking Fullback Mike Karney was cut after the 2008 season in New Orleans.

    2008 = 28th Rushing in the League

    2009 = 6th Rushing in the League

    I can see how he could butthurt…….

  3. khuxford says: Jun 22, 2012 8:30 AM

    “Under the frankly cartoonish heading “MIKE [EXPLETIVE] KARNEY,” the slide featured three photos of Karney and a paragraph of stats and a quote referring to whether he had hard feelings about being released by the Saints.”

    Well? What was the quote about whether he had hard feelings about leaving the Saints?

    Because, honestly, he admits nothing even seemingly illegal came his way in the game, despite him being part of a pre-game presentation and the NFL using it in their bounty case. It seems like something just used to prejudice anyone against those involved, even if it doesn’t contribute to the case in anyway.

    Athletes speaking with scorn for someone who has now joined the enemy? This is used to, what, establish character? EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE IS COMPRISED LARGELY OF PEOPLE WHO SAY “F— THAT DUDE” IF THEY JOIN A RIVAL.

  4. darkhornet79 says: Jun 22, 2012 8:31 AM

    Whoa, that’s some real bitterness there Karney. Might be time to let it go. It’s business.

  5. mdd913 says: Jun 22, 2012 8:40 AM

    Karney was extremely bitter when the Saints cut him in 2009 and lashed out a couple times in the media. He simply lost his job to a better player. IIRC he was cut on the day before his wedding.

    This story was written by Jeff Duncan, who was yanked off the Times-Picayune’s Saints beat last week and since has written a series of increasingly negative stories about them. I’m sure that’s just a coincidence.

    “evil”……give me a break.

  6. pftcensorssuck says: Jun 22, 2012 8:57 AM

    “There’s a lot of evil in that organization”
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    Love that quote.

    This guy ought to know, folks; he was THERE.

  7. talkintrashallday says: Jun 22, 2012 9:05 AM

    this thing is getting HILARIOUS! LOL

  8. bullcharger says: Jun 22, 2012 9:07 AM

    You could call Karney bitter, but “evil” is also the word I thought of when I heard Williams speech for the first time.

  9. thejuddstir says: Jun 22, 2012 9:09 AM

    “There’s a lot of evil in that organization.”…….tell us something we don’t know !!

  10. xxwhodatxx says: Jun 22, 2012 9:21 AM

    As if the Saints were worried about a washed up fullback. He was just mad they cut him, then proceeded to talk major trash. Maybe that had something to do with the picture.

  11. agelardi says: Jun 22, 2012 9:34 AM

    That’s some bad ju-ju mon.

  12. peytonwantsaflag says: Jun 22, 2012 9:47 AM

    “cartoonish”? My kids watch cartoons nearly every day – don’t ever hear that word.

  13. whodatsaybaby says: Jun 22, 2012 9:50 AM

    Hey Karney. Thanks for the Dallas game in 06′. Never heard you complaing then. You always had the best things to say about the city and the team….Thennn……….They make a business move, have to cut you, and the city and the team turns ”evil”. Gimmie a break. At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if ”GOD”dell himself confronted you with a pouch full of silver and asked you to bash the greatest team you ever played for. Next story, moving on…………………

  14. zn0rseman says: Jun 22, 2012 9:53 AM

    How many former Saints players are upset with that organization? It seems like an aweful lot of them fit that bill with the exception of those who are now circling the wagons after the bounty scandal went public.

    Regardless, anyone who claims the Saints didn’t have a bounty program at this point is either stupid or ignorant. The coaches have already admitted that it existed. There is a video showing their defensive team meeting prior to a playoff game where they talk about taking out a guys ACL and hitting another player in the wad to cause a concussion, not to mention the plethora of evidence tied to bounties for “cart offs” and “kncokouts” in the 2009 NFC title game and the huge amount of illegal hits on Favre.

    Seriously. You Saints fans who are still stubbornly claiming your team did nothing wrong need to wake up and smell what you’re shoveling.

  15. rolltide510 says: Jun 22, 2012 10:03 AM

    So basically there wasn’t even a competitive football reason to target Karney, they just put a bounty on him for fun?

    At some point its going to dawn on Saints fans that no, all teams in all sports really don’t do stuff like this.

  16. mdd913 says: Jun 22, 2012 10:32 AM

    zn0rseman says: Jun 22, 2012 9:53 AM

    How many former Saints players are upset with that organization? It seems like an aweful lot of them

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    OK, name two.

  17. randallflagg52 says: Jun 22, 2012 10:34 AM

    Wow, you’d think the Saints were the Germans or Darth Vader the way some NFL fans are acting…

    This is getting to be too much. Why didn’t Goodell get this deep into Bill Belichick’s mess?

  18. purpleguy says: Jun 22, 2012 11:11 AM

    Hey, the guy was there 5 years to see the way the organization was run and the character of those who ran it, so I’d say he’s in a better position to call the Saints and their management/coaches evil than the rest of us.

  19. booker1974 says: Jun 22, 2012 11:25 AM

    Out of the 200 pages of evidence, at least 150 were just scounting reports on opposing teams and players — no mentions of bounties, just run of the mill scounting reports that all teams put together. The picture of Karney made no mention of bounties — in fact, it referenced that the Rams were much better running the ball when he was on the sideline. If anything the slide was telling the defense not to let him embarass them. Scouting an opponent does not equal putting a bounty on them.

  20. mdd913 says: Jun 22, 2012 11:43 AM

    purpleguy says: Jun 22, 2012 11:11 AM

    Hey, the guy was there 5 years to see the way the organization was run and the character of those who ran it, so I’d say he’s in a better position to call the Saints and their management/coaches evil than the rest of us.

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    :rolleyes:

    Yeah, let’s believe the guy that got fired….because he doesn’t have any motivation to talk bad about them.

  21. northshoresaint9 says: Jun 22, 2012 1:30 PM

    …J.H.C.!!! Karney was my girlfriend’s fav.. He’s a good dude, but HAS 2 b bitter. I don’t really blame him. Gregg William’s tactics were stupid & mean. Glad dat’ bitch is gone…. Other than that, keep hating on us, ‘other NFL-fans’. Fine by me. Drew Brees WILL get signed & I’ll look 4ward 2 the Saints beating da’ brakes off of your teams! ***WHO-DAT’?!!!***

  22. blowtorch1964 says: Jun 22, 2012 2:06 PM

    I know they went to a witch doctor for some gris-gris, that’s why they are evil.

    Head coach was stealing pain killers from the locked cabinet, what ever happened to that story?

  23. ricksaints says: Jun 23, 2012 12:07 PM

    BUTTERBALL!!!!!! I loved watching Duece run behind that guy. I would call my former employer evil also if they let me go the day before my wedding.

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