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		<title>By: musicman495</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/23/heres-a-chance-to-judge-the-hargrove-video-for-yourself/#comment-1850536</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not only am I not convinced that is Hargrove speaking, I am not even convinced that the words SAID are &quot;Give me my money.&quot;  And I sure as hell don&#039;t know what was MEANT by whatever was said.  Did Goodell even bother to ASK saints players what was said, or who said it, or what was meant?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only am I not convinced that is Hargrove speaking, I am not even convinced that the words SAID are &#8220;Give me my money.&#8221;  And I sure as hell don&#8217;t know what was MEANT by whatever was said.  Did Goodell even bother to ASK saints players what was said, or who said it, or what was meant?</p>
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		<title>By: cpo187</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Favre was being a drama queen and faking it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Favre was being a drama queen and faking it.</p>
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		<title>By: jbravo2312</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jbravo2312]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its clear as day Hargrove says &quot;bobby&quot;, and the exact same voice says &quot;gimmie my money&quot;  and also, the cadence of the statement is that of one person, not one guy saying bobby and someone else saying gimmie my money, the NFL got it right on this one]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its clear as day Hargrove says &#8220;bobby&#8221;, and the exact same voice says &#8220;gimmie my money&#8221;  and also, the cadence of the statement is that of one person, not one guy saying bobby and someone else saying gimmie my money, the NFL got it right on this one</p>
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		<title>By: mburkett1980</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mburkett1980]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 12:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can see Will Smith even looks at Ayodele as if he is uttering something.

Will Smith says &quot;he broke his leg,&quot; and Ayodele turns to him and says &quot;give me my money (with Smith making eye contact with Ayodele).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can see Will Smith even looks at Ayodele as if he is uttering something.</p>
<p>Will Smith says &#8220;he broke his leg,&#8221; and Ayodele turns to him and says &#8220;give me my money (with Smith making eye contact with Ayodele).</p>
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		<title>By: ftcsubs</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 04:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your an idiot, I know you want some more pages of view for your web site. its the same voice. I dont think an inteligent person would make the mistake that is a seperate voice. you can see him saying bobby and lips moving saying Bobby. and the same person is speaking saying give me the money. one way to clear this up is to do a voice annalysis. I would love the NFL to have an expert come on to say that is actualy his voices. then have goodell suspend him longer for lying again.plus Hardgrove says he know nothing about it .bottom line he lied to the commish. I say give him another couple of games to remind people not to lie to the commish.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your an idiot, I know you want some more pages of view for your web site. its the same voice. I dont think an inteligent person would make the mistake that is a seperate voice. you can see him saying bobby and lips moving saying Bobby. and the same person is speaking saying give me the money. one way to clear this up is to do a voice annalysis. I would love the NFL to have an expert come on to say that is actualy his voices. then have goodell suspend him longer for lying again.plus Hardgrove says he know nothing about it .bottom line he lied to the commish. I say give him another couple of games to remind people not to lie to the commish.</p>
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		<title>By: frozencajun</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frozencajun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 03:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure how they can give a player a 8 game unpaid vacation on this video.  You can hear give me my money but who says it.  To those who say it doesn&#039;t matter who said it, you are missing the boat.  They are going to give someone a 8 games unpaid with out evidence that he said this or as for as we know ever paid into or got paid in this system.  

This video really at best proves that there was a pay for performance program going on or does it?  How can you be so sure the program was based on injuring a player?  Could this not have been said for a big hit alone?  I guess if I&#039;m a player I say it was part of an unrelated topic (such as I paid for your dinner, give me my money!) and prove me otherwise.  

If we go with this was a pay for performance program, was it worth the suspensions handed down?  I really don&#039;t think it was.  It sure seems like the NFL has done shotty work here and taken a fairly minor issue blew it up and now is feeding me something far worse and shocking. 

Finally, every NFL fan should be looking at this case with wide eyes.  Sure this may not be your team that you follow but it could be.  If they are willing to take this kind of a video and hand down 8 games off to a random player who wasn&#039;t even a part of the play they could easily do this to any other team just to make some argument fit.  You can make a round peg fit into a square hole if you just pound it hard enough with a hammer.    At this point they really need to reinstate everyone including coaches and reboot the investigation and maybe do correctly this time using something more concrete than this.  If after 3 years this is the best you have, I&#039;m guessing your case is pretty weak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure how they can give a player a 8 game unpaid vacation on this video.  You can hear give me my money but who says it.  To those who say it doesn&#8217;t matter who said it, you are missing the boat.  They are going to give someone a 8 games unpaid with out evidence that he said this or as for as we know ever paid into or got paid in this system.  </p>
<p>This video really at best proves that there was a pay for performance program going on or does it?  How can you be so sure the program was based on injuring a player?  Could this not have been said for a big hit alone?  I guess if I&#8217;m a player I say it was part of an unrelated topic (such as I paid for your dinner, give me my money!) and prove me otherwise.  </p>
<p>If we go with this was a pay for performance program, was it worth the suspensions handed down?  I really don&#8217;t think it was.  It sure seems like the NFL has done shotty work here and taken a fairly minor issue blew it up and now is feeding me something far worse and shocking. </p>
<p>Finally, every NFL fan should be looking at this case with wide eyes.  Sure this may not be your team that you follow but it could be.  If they are willing to take this kind of a video and hand down 8 games off to a random player who wasn&#8217;t even a part of the play they could easily do this to any other team just to make some argument fit.  You can make a round peg fit into a square hole if you just pound it hard enough with a hammer.    At this point they really need to reinstate everyone including coaches and reboot the investigation and maybe do correctly this time using something more concrete than this.  If after 3 years this is the best you have, I&#8217;m guessing your case is pretty weak.</p>
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		<title>By: djcoreylee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[djcoreylee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 02:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you REALLY think this only happens on a few teams! Come on..lets play like we are all grown ups making 5 million dollars a year..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you REALLY think this only happens on a few teams! Come on..lets play like we are all grown ups making 5 million dollars a year..</p>
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		<title>By: tebowsafraud</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/23/heres-a-chance-to-judge-the-hargrove-video-for-yourself/#comment-1848300</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tebowsafraud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those astute individuals who point out that WHO said &quot;Pay me my money&quot; is unimportant compared to the fact it WAS said at all are the winners here.

Since we know context is everything, we know the comment (whoever said it) was expressed in the belief that Favre had been knocked out of the game.

 This PROVES &quot;pay for performance&quot; was a cover for &quot;pay for injuring&quot;. The term &quot;bounty&quot; just refers to  extra money added to AN ALREADY EXISTING POOL for &quot;cart offs&quot; and &quot;knock outs&quot; but just specifying a particular player. 

As far as poor persecuted Hargrove (note sarcasm) all he has to do is tell the NFL who said &quot;pay me my money&quot; (if it wasn&#039;t him). Alternatively, the player who really said it could came forward and get Hargrove off the hook. The fact is that the &quot;don&#039;t snitch&quot; culture has put Hargrove where he is--not Goodell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those astute individuals who point out that WHO said &#8220;Pay me my money&#8221; is unimportant compared to the fact it WAS said at all are the winners here.</p>
<p>Since we know context is everything, we know the comment (whoever said it) was expressed in the belief that Favre had been knocked out of the game.</p>
<p> This PROVES &#8220;pay for performance&#8221; was a cover for &#8220;pay for injuring&#8221;. The term &#8220;bounty&#8221; just refers to  extra money added to AN ALREADY EXISTING POOL for &#8220;cart offs&#8221; and &#8220;knock outs&#8221; but just specifying a particular player. </p>
<p>As far as poor persecuted Hargrove (note sarcasm) all he has to do is tell the NFL who said &#8220;pay me my money&#8221; (if it wasn&#8217;t him). Alternatively, the player who really said it could came forward and get Hargrove off the hook. The fact is that the &#8220;don&#8217;t snitch&#8221; culture has put Hargrove where he is&#8211;not Goodell.</p>
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		<title>By: samapoc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[samapoc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NFL made such a joke of this case.  They should just drop all the charges.  Messing with the livelihood of so many people for the wrong reasons....seems to me an easy lawsuit for the players to win.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NFL made such a joke of this case.  They should just drop all the charges.  Messing with the livelihood of so many people for the wrong reasons&#8230;.seems to me an easy lawsuit for the players to win.</p>
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		<title>By: maiphatdong</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maiphatdong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 22:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[obviously Ayodele, look at Hargroves eyes and the way Ayodele bumps into him.....i also like the way Florio plays up his ghetto attitude, lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obviously Ayodele, look at Hargroves eyes and the way Ayodele bumps into him&#8230;..i also like the way Florio plays up his ghetto attitude, lol</p>
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		<title>By: dzor22</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dzor22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 21:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saints fans. Are we are going to have to hear this hair splitting crap all year. You&#039;re looking for a verdict. The CBA doesn&#039;t require one. Your team&#039;s arrogance got you in this position. You don&#039;t have all of the &#039;evidence&#039;...because they don&#039;t have to give it to you. While you all are denying whomever it is saying what...you&#039;re admitting the program existed. You all were warned. Suck it up! Quit crying! No more preferential treatment for you. That preference is a bigger crime than these bounties. Lets look at more tape guys! Watch those late hits. Wow!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saints fans. Are we are going to have to hear this hair splitting crap all year. You&#8217;re looking for a verdict. The CBA doesn&#8217;t require one. Your team&#8217;s arrogance got you in this position. You don&#8217;t have all of the &#8216;evidence&#8217;&#8230;because they don&#8217;t have to give it to you. While you all are denying whomever it is saying what&#8230;you&#8217;re admitting the program existed. You all were warned. Suck it up! Quit crying! No more preferential treatment for you. That preference is a bigger crime than these bounties. Lets look at more tape guys! Watch those late hits. Wow!</p>
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		<title>By: mediasloppy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mediasloppy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 21:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NFL should say they can&#039;t conclusively pin the guy down as saying it, unless they did voice recognition. Then they should say, it was still a bounty and that&#039;s that...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NFL should say they can&#8217;t conclusively pin the guy down as saying it, unless they did voice recognition. Then they should say, it was still a bounty and that&#8217;s that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: randomguy9999</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[randomguy9999]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 20:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think you can tell who actually said &#039;give me my money&#039;

but it&#039;s all immaterial.... 
1- they had a bounty someone wanted to get paid for....
2- they all knew it
3- the coach was informing them in a sort of smug way IMO

they were doing it... no question....
they deserve punishment... no question...

end of story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you can tell who actually said &#8216;give me my money&#8217;</p>
<p>but it&#8217;s all immaterial&#8230;.<br />
1- they had a bounty someone wanted to get paid for&#8230;.<br />
2- they all knew it<br />
3- the coach was informing them in a sort of smug way IMO</p>
<p>they were doing it&#8230; no question&#8230;.<br />
they deserve punishment&#8230; no question&#8230;</p>
<p>end of story.</p>
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		<title>By: qoojo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[qoojo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 19:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You hear Hargrove&#039;s voice, then you hear a different voice say, &quot;give me my money&quot;. I agree that Ayodele had the perfect body language for saying it. Seems pretty clear cut  to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You hear Hargrove&#8217;s voice, then you hear a different voice say, &#8220;give me my money&#8221;. I agree that Ayodele had the perfect body language for saying it. Seems pretty clear cut  to me.</p>
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		<title>By: steelersfan1983</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steelersfan1983]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 19:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[pftcensorssuck says:
Jun 23, 2012 10:54 AM
Count me among those with an ounce of common sense who say: “it doesn’t matter WHO said ‘Bobby, give me my money’ …… whoever said it, it just confirms the fact there WAS a bounty system clearly in place”.

All the players are doing, and the Saints organization, the Saints fans, and the media as well, is splitting hairs over who specifically BENEFITTED from it.

This video may or may not exonorate Anthony Hargrove, but it sure as hell INDICTS the New Orleans Saints organization.

SOMEBODY paid SOMEONE to intentionally hurt an opponent and take him out of a game.

The video confirms that, regardless.

Deny THAT, people.
--------------------------------------------------

So because someone said it it&#039;s okay to point into the group of people they were among and say eeny meeny miny mo, it, was...... YOU????????????????????????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pftcensorssuck says:<br />
Jun 23, 2012 10:54 AM<br />
Count me among those with an ounce of common sense who say: “it doesn’t matter WHO said ‘Bobby, give me my money’ …… whoever said it, it just confirms the fact there WAS a bounty system clearly in place”.</p>
<p>All the players are doing, and the Saints organization, the Saints fans, and the media as well, is splitting hairs over who specifically BENEFITTED from it.</p>
<p>This video may or may not exonorate Anthony Hargrove, but it sure as hell INDICTS the New Orleans Saints organization.</p>
<p>SOMEBODY paid SOMEONE to intentionally hurt an opponent and take him out of a game.</p>
<p>The video confirms that, regardless.</p>
<p>Deny THAT, people.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>So because someone said it it&#8217;s okay to point into the group of people they were among and say eeny meeny miny mo, it, was&#8230;&#8230; YOU????????????????????????</p>
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		<title>By: wirelessjesus</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 19:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this:

radbob1 says: 
Jun 23, 2012 9:05 AM 
Hargrove says “Bobby”.
Ayodele says “Give me my money”, his body movement matches perfectly.

Another case of NFL investigators dropping the ball.
Was Ayodele even interviewed as part of the investigation?


Why is it that WE can clearly see/hear this but investigators cannot???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this:</p>
<p>radbob1 says:<br />
Jun 23, 2012 9:05 AM<br />
Hargrove says “Bobby”.<br />
Ayodele says “Give me my money”, his body movement matches perfectly.</p>
<p>Another case of NFL investigators dropping the ball.<br />
Was Ayodele even interviewed as part of the investigation?</p>
<p>Why is it that WE can clearly see/hear this but investigators cannot???</p>
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		<title>By: goodolebaghead</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[goodolebaghead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 19:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Was there some form of a bounty system?  Yes.  Was the team punished for it?  YES.  Does the NFL have any evidence of specifics that will allow them to suspend individuals and not possibly punish completely innocent people?  NO.  The NFL should have stopped at suspending the coaches and Loomis.  It was when Goodell went further and fired away at some of the players, and let the other 22/27 slide, and then didn&#039;t just fine them, but drug them through the mud.  If ANY of them is innocent, than this is a travisty.  Goodell jumped without looking, and all this mess now is what HE allowed to happen.  What did he seriously expect?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was there some form of a bounty system?  Yes.  Was the team punished for it?  YES.  Does the NFL have any evidence of specifics that will allow them to suspend individuals and not possibly punish completely innocent people?  NO.  The NFL should have stopped at suspending the coaches and Loomis.  It was when Goodell went further and fired away at some of the players, and let the other 22/27 slide, and then didn&#8217;t just fine them, but drug them through the mud.  If ANY of them is innocent, than this is a travisty.  Goodell jumped without looking, and all this mess now is what HE allowed to happen.  What did he seriously expect?</p>
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		<title>By: saints25</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 18:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[atthemurph says:Jun 23, 2012 10:50 AM 

This is all about the NFL developing a legal fall back that they were very concerned with player safety and did everything they could.
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NFL doesnt care about players Safety...I dont think that for one minute,they would quit pushing the 18 games if the cared]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>atthemurph says:Jun 23, 2012 10:50 AM </p>
<p>This is all about the NFL developing a legal fall back that they were very concerned with player safety and did everything they could.<br />
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<p>NFL doesnt care about players Safety&#8230;I dont think that for one minute,they would quit pushing the 18 games if the cared</p>
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		<title>By: gbmickey</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 17:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thats what i thought. I asked earlier for a legitimate reason why a Saint player asked for the money and not one person could step to the plate an offer an answer. Instead they continually focus on that it wasnt Hargrove and not the big picture that payers were paid to hurt people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats what i thought. I asked earlier for a legitimate reason why a Saint player asked for the money and not one person could step to the plate an offer an answer. Instead they continually focus on that it wasnt Hargrove and not the big picture that payers were paid to hurt people.</p>
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		<title>By: roadbiscuit</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 16:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because players don&#039;t rat each other out.  It&#039;s that simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because players don&#8217;t rat each other out.  It&#8217;s that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: cmarsh64</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 16:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Hargrove knows who made the statement why doesn&#039;t he just say who it was? Its clear he wasn&#039;t part of that play as far as the hits concerned. By the body language I would say Ayodele made the statement, but Hargrove can&#039;t deny he got paid to injury other players. Hargrove is no longer a Saint so if he wants to help his new team he needs to come clean. If he doesn&#039;t name who it is then he has nothing to complain about. If not being a snitch is more important than the money he will lose over 8 games then so be it.If Ayodele did make the statement then why isn&#039;t he man enough to help out Hargrove?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Hargrove knows who made the statement why doesn&#8217;t he just say who it was? Its clear he wasn&#8217;t part of that play as far as the hits concerned. By the body language I would say Ayodele made the statement, but Hargrove can&#8217;t deny he got paid to injury other players. Hargrove is no longer a Saint so if he wants to help his new team he needs to come clean. If he doesn&#8217;t name who it is then he has nothing to complain about. If not being a snitch is more important than the money he will lose over 8 games then so be it.If Ayodele did make the statement then why isn&#8217;t he man enough to help out Hargrove?</p>
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		<title>By: latenightroach</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 16:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought Ayodele was the one who said &quot;give me my money&quot; the 1st time I watched the video. Seemed like two different people talking to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Ayodele was the one who said &#8220;give me my money&#8221; the 1st time I watched the video. Seemed like two different people talking to me.</p>
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		<title>By: roadbiscuit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[roadbiscuit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 15:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[10tender, I&#039;ll put up what an eyewitness says against your armchair interpretation. I suggest you do the same.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10tender, I&#8217;ll put up what an eyewitness says against your armchair interpretation. I suggest you do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: ernie ernie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ernie ernie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 15:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its a tough call. If I were on a jury could I not find him guilty of what I saw in the video which leads me to beleive the NFL has testamony from someone sitting there who said it was him, so there are two pieces of evidence they have that we don&#039;t. 
The players union understands its the testamony that damaging and now is trying to get everyone to recant and say they didn&#039;t say anything and the NFL is just lying. They clearly want a he said she said scenario going into court.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a tough call. If I were on a jury could I not find him guilty of what I saw in the video which leads me to beleive the NFL has testamony from someone sitting there who said it was him, so there are two pieces of evidence they have that we don&#8217;t.<br />
The players union understands its the testamony that damaging and now is trying to get everyone to recant and say they didn&#8217;t say anything and the NFL is just lying. They clearly want a he said she said scenario going into court.</p>
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		<title>By: 10tender</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 15:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If indeed hargrove said &#039;Bobby&#039; and he countinued to talk as you can see in the video, and I do hope you do see that he continued to talk, never moving his head from the person he was speaking to, simply to start to mumble to be drown out by the guy next to him? 

He said it.

Sorry Saints fans when one person(fujita) says &#039;Yes,I have done that in the past and paid for those hits.&#039; It&#039;s a culture on the football team and ignorant to think otherwise.

Here&#039;s a old chestnut I hear alot these days......Goodel doesn&#039;t want the saints in the superbowl in New Orleans because it won&#039;t pay to have them in it.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If indeed hargrove said &#8216;Bobby&#8217; and he countinued to talk as you can see in the video, and I do hope you do see that he continued to talk, never moving his head from the person he was speaking to, simply to start to mumble to be drown out by the guy next to him? </p>
<p>He said it.</p>
<p>Sorry Saints fans when one person(fujita) says &#8216;Yes,I have done that in the past and paid for those hits.&#8217; It&#8217;s a culture on the football team and ignorant to think otherwise.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a old chestnut I hear alot these days&#8230;&#8230;Goodel doesn&#8217;t want the saints in the superbowl in New Orleans because it won&#8217;t pay to have them in it&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: stairwayto7</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 15:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was Drew Brees!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was Drew Brees!</p>
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		<title>By: pftcensorssuck</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 14:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Count me among those with an ounce of common sense who say: &quot;it doesn&#039;t matter WHO said &#039;Bobby, give me my money&#039; ...... whoever said it, it just confirms the fact there WAS a bounty system clearly in place&quot;.

All the players are doing, and the Saints organization, the Saints fans, and the media as well, is splitting hairs over who specifically BENEFITTED from it.

This video may or may not exonorate Anthony Hargrove, but it sure as hell INDICTS the New Orleans Saints organization.

SOMEBODY paid SOMEONE to intentionally hurt an opponent and take him out of a game.

The video confirms that, regardless.

Deny THAT, people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me among those with an ounce of common sense who say: &#8220;it doesn&#8217;t matter WHO said &#8216;Bobby, give me my money&#8217; &#8230;&#8230; whoever said it, it just confirms the fact there WAS a bounty system clearly in place&#8221;.</p>
<p>All the players are doing, and the Saints organization, the Saints fans, and the media as well, is splitting hairs over who specifically BENEFITTED from it.</p>
<p>This video may or may not exonorate Anthony Hargrove, but it sure as hell INDICTS the New Orleans Saints organization.</p>
<p>SOMEBODY paid SOMEONE to intentionally hurt an opponent and take him out of a game.</p>
<p>The video confirms that, regardless.</p>
<p>Deny THAT, people.</p>
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		<title>By: atthemurph</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[atthemurph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 14:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is all about the NFL developing a legal fall back that they were very concerned with player safety and did everything they could.

It has nothing to do with proving someone was guilty of trying to actually hurt players. It&#039;s a legal gambit and damn the individual players who are getting screwed. 

The NFL is only creating a defensible position for the lawsuit that will be coming regarding player safety. It&#039;s feel good crap to throw at a future jury.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all about the NFL developing a legal fall back that they were very concerned with player safety and did everything they could.</p>
<p>It has nothing to do with proving someone was guilty of trying to actually hurt players. It&#8217;s a legal gambit and damn the individual players who are getting screwed. </p>
<p>The NFL is only creating a defensible position for the lawsuit that will be coming regarding player safety. It&#8217;s feel good crap to throw at a future jury.</p>
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		<title>By: butch815</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 14:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What the little spider monkey fails to mention is that Hargrove did hit Farve on several occasions. Yet Spider Monkey wants you to believe that the McCray and Ayodele hit was the only hit on Farve. ....Let it go Spider Monkey, Let it go.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the little spider monkey fails to mention is that Hargrove did hit Farve on several occasions. Yet Spider Monkey wants you to believe that the McCray and Ayodele hit was the only hit on Farve. &#8230;.Let it go Spider Monkey, Let it go.</p>
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		<title>By: stkurt</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 14:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hargrove says &quot;Bobby&quot; because he knew Bobby was in on the play.  When things happen quickly on the field the players are not certain who was involved in the hit and in what fashion.  He probably saw Bobby wrapped around Favre&#039;s ankle at the end of the play and though he was the only one involved in the hit.  From Remi&#039;s body language it looks as though he says &quot;give me my money&quot; but it is impossible to prove this unless there is a camera on the other side of Remi.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hargrove says &#8220;Bobby&#8221; because he knew Bobby was in on the play.  When things happen quickly on the field the players are not certain who was involved in the hit and in what fashion.  He probably saw Bobby wrapped around Favre&#8217;s ankle at the end of the play and though he was the only one involved in the hit.  From Remi&#8217;s body language it looks as though he says &#8220;give me my money&#8221; but it is impossible to prove this unless there is a camera on the other side of Remi.</p>
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