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Tomlinson considered following Peyton to Denver

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Shortly after signing a ceremonial contract with the Chargers and announcing his retirement in San Diego, LaDainian Tomlinson has revealed that he also considered signing an actual contract with the Broncos and playing this season in Denver.

Tomlinson told U-T San Diego that he had offers to keep playing if he had wanted to this season, and that the one offer that appealed to him was playing for the Broncos, where he could have been teammates with Peyton Manning.

The only team I really gave a thought to was the Broncos, because of Peyton,” Tomlinson said. “We talked. . . . It made me pause a little (and think), ‘Was this what I really want to do?’ … I said, ‘They got Peyton, they have a good defense already; they went deep in the playoffs with Tim Tebow, what are they going to do with Peyton?’ I seriously thought about it.”

Chargers fans surely wouldn’t have enjoyed the sight of Tomlinson in an orange uniform, playing against the Chargers twice a season. Tomlinson said that was one of the things he considered when he decided to retire as a Charger rather than keep playing — he couldn’t picture himself in orange, or in silver and black, for that matter.

“At the end of the day I was thinking, ‘I can’t do that,’” Tomlinson said. “It’s not as bad as being a Raider — but almost.”

Seeing Tomlinson in a Raiders uniform would have been a strange sight. Almost as strange as seeing Manning in a Broncos uniform.

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  1. alpod says: Jun 23, 2012 5:40 PM

    it’s kinda great to see that Tomlinson hated the raiders as much as raiders fans hated him. i was a bit perplexed by how much he’s brought up the raiders since retiring.

    He was the ultimate raider killer, though. As a raiders fan, i’m glad to see him go.

  2. cali49er707 says: Jun 23, 2012 5:41 PM

    sorry to say LT but your services were not wanted by any team, not even denver!! the only reason you gotta call from denver is because GM peyton manning considered you, thats the ONLY reason why!! elway would never have called he has magahee & moreno!!

  3. Matt says: Jun 23, 2012 5:52 PM

    d’awww that’s cute, LT thinks the Chargers and Raiders are real rivals. It’s really more of a big brother / little brother dynamic. The fan scene in San Diego will always be outnumbered by LA Raider diehards. Just look at the crowd of a Chargers/Raiders game when played in SD. 80% (if not more) are Raiders fans.

  4. thekingdave says: Jun 23, 2012 5:59 PM

    That’s pretty cool how squeaking out an OT win against the Steelers then getting mauled by the Patriots constitutes a deep playoff run

  5. zinn22 says: Jun 23, 2012 5:59 PM

    Tomlinson had 42 receptions for 450 yards as a 3rd down back last year. With Peyton he could have had a huge year as a receiving threat. He would have added a lot to the Broncos.

  6. nflmastermind says: Jun 23, 2012 6:10 PM

    the funny thing about the nfl’s biggest crybaby coming out now and saying he wanted to play for Denver is that all the S.D. fans sung his praises about how classy he supposedly his and now you find out he wanted to play for one of your rivals, well at least this loser never won a ring , he doesn’t deserve one anyway they’re not for cry babies like this overrated hack

  7. lostsok says: Jun 23, 2012 6:13 PM

    I like players who WON’T play for their previous team’s rivals. Image, late in their careers, Dan Marino playing for the Jets or Troy Aikman playing for Washington.

    Some things are just…wrong.

    And LT, obviously, maintains his for-life reputation in San Diego. Would one year and one (possible) championship run be worth throwing away a love built over a decade?

  8. jayr8r says: Jun 23, 2012 6:25 PM

    matt u r 100% correct!!! i am a raider fan that lives in the san diego and when me and the rest of my patna’s from the South Bay San Diego Raider Boosters Club est. in 2004 go to the game it becomes the Black Hole South. Black jerseys everywhere!!! Go Raiders!!!

  9. raiderapologist says: Jun 23, 2012 6:42 PM

    It’s safe to say that the Raiders weren’t interested in Tomlinson, either.

  10. sdcreppin says: Jun 23, 2012 6:51 PM

    Its not 80 percent. raider fans are some of the most bandwagon fans out there. Beating the chargers 3 times since 03 who’s the small brother.I will always remember LT running for a againgst the raiders in overtime. South bay raider club is a joke

  11. ProDolphinsTalk says: Jun 23, 2012 6:57 PM

    Strange days in the NFL right now. Peyton Manning is a Bronco making more a year than his #1 pick replacement’s rookie contract may be. The Pats have lost as many Super Bowl’s as they’ve won and Brett Favre is still retired. Oh and the ref’s are on strike and the Commissioner is a Dictator and a ‘cart-off’ gets you paid.

  12. nyjalleffingday says: Jun 23, 2012 6:57 PM

    @lostsok

    Dan Marino should have been a Jet in the first place, Ken O’Brien was a decent QB in his own right but he was no Marino, despite the awesome duels between the two. We passed over Jerry Rice two years later, as well. Uggghhh.

    And yeah, Tomlinson in a Broncos uniform would just look strange. I’m having difficulty adjusting to Peyton as is.

  13. dougydougdoug says: Jun 23, 2012 7:13 PM

    raiderapologist says: Jun 23, 2012 6:42 PM

    “It’s safe to say that the Raiders weren’t interested in Tomlinson, either.”

    Yeah. I bet you’re probably correct. It wouldn’t have been a good fit. LT has a degree of class, can probably read, and hasn’t been arrested. So, probably not the right kind of guy for that team.

  14. cardmagnet says: Jun 23, 2012 7:14 PM

    How scary would it have been to have LT with McGahee? That would have been a great 1-2 punch, and gave Peyton a great receiving back for a check down and swing routes to help open up the full passing attack.

  15. dougydougdoug says: Jun 23, 2012 7:16 PM

    alpod says: Jun 23, 2012 5:40 PM

    “it’s kinda great to see that Tomlinson hated the raiders as much as raiders fans hated him. i was a bit perplexed by how much he’s brought up the raiders since retiring.

    He was the ultimate raider killer, though. As a raiders fan, i’m glad to see him go.”

    I hate to say it, and I’m not trying to pile on, but the biggest “Raider Killer” in the last decade, was arguably Al Davis. You Oakland fans need to PRAY that his offspring can move in some new directions, for the sake of that franchise.

  16. cali49er707 says: Jun 23, 2012 7:37 PM

    LT as a bronco is equal to emmit smith as a cardinal, the broncos drafted a RB in the draft that is a shifty scat back receiver type, so the whole LT as a receiver out the backfield thoughts are garbage!!! people are thinking LT is the same back he use to be when he is not,the ONLY reason he got called was peyton motivated, LT is weak now!!!!a

  17. ripseau says: Jun 23, 2012 7:50 PM

    Funny how raider fans talk about fanbase and invading the q but cant see their own team when they play at home. Blackhole? More like blackedout

  18. kwgator says: Jun 23, 2012 7:52 PM

    Our hats are off to Tim Tebow for winning a Playoff Game

    —- Matt Ryan & Carson Palmer

  19. raiderapologist says: Jun 23, 2012 7:56 PM

    dougydougdoug says: Jun 23, 2012 7:13 PM

    raiderapologist says: Jun 23, 2012 6:42 PM

    “It’s safe to say that the Raiders weren’t interested in Tomlinson, either.”

    Yeah. I bet you’re probably correct. It wouldn’t have been a good fit. LT has a degree of class, can probably read, and hasn’t been arrested. So, probably not the right kind of guy for that team.
    ——-
    Everyone is aware of Tomlinson’s degree of class. He’s not the right kind of guy for Oakland because he’s a playoff choker who spent the best part of his career on a choker team.

  20. broncobrewer says: Jun 23, 2012 8:02 PM

    I would’ve bought an LT bronco jersey just to wear around my charger fans

  21. andyr2120 says: Jun 23, 2012 8:07 PM

    As a Raiders fan, I was glad to see LT leave the division a few years ago. He used to be deadly. As a Raiders fan in 2012, I am a little sad that he didn’t come back to play for the Broncos. He would be deadly to Peyton Manning.

  22. hempoilcures says: Jun 23, 2012 8:08 PM

    dougdoug….said….”I hate to say it, and I’m not trying to pile on, but the biggest “Raider Killer” in the last decade, was arguably Al Davis. You Oakland fans need to PRAY that his offspring can move in some new directions, for the sake of that franchise.”……

    Don’t have to pray, if you are paying attention, which most of the NFL ‘insiders’ and fans are not, you would see a big change in Oakland. It’s good for the Raiders that everyone else is so slow to pick up on the fact that big changes have already happened in Oakland. Raiders will be the biggest sleeper…even Vegas isn’t noticing. All the old Raider jokes are obsolete, it isn’t like that anymore, Mark Davis is a 180 compared to his Pops. Lay your money down, cause the Raiders are going to win the AFC West this year.

  23. dougydougdoug says: Jun 23, 2012 8:13 PM

    @raiderapologist:

    I like your reasoning. Along those lines, during LT’s career, exactly how many championships did the Raiders take home? In fact, let’s take this a little further. In that same amount of time, which NFL team lead the league in penalties, consecutive losing seasons, and losing streaks to another team? Yes, it’s a trick question, because we all know that answer.

    So, if the Chargers and LT were choking, what precisely were the Raiders doing that whole time? Would you consider that to be a “commitment to excellence”?

  24. dougydougdoug says: Jun 23, 2012 8:16 PM

    ripseau says: Jun 23, 2012 7:50 PM

    “Funny how raider fans talk about fanbase and invading the q but cant see their own team when they play at home. Blackhole? More like blackedout”

    Well, actually, the reason they don’t sell out the games in Oakland, are the same reasons they couldn’t sell out the games in Los Angeles. Too many fans are in jail, or have been deported back to Mexico.

    Well, that, and the fact that in most cases, they just can’t find the stadiums.

  25. villa41 says: Jun 23, 2012 8:27 PM

    The faulty logic a lot of people, including Tomlinson, are using regarding Denver’s prospects this season is amazing. The theory goes that Denver will be so much better with Manning. If Denver could go 8-8 with Tebow and win a play-off game, then it’s division crown, 13-3 record, and AFC championship and/or Super Bowl with Manning.

    No, no, no. The reason Denver got to 8-8 and won a play-off game was directly related to Tebow and the read option offense. Remember, Denver was 1-4 and going nowhere with a conventional offense when the change was made to Tebow. The read option kept opposing defenses off balance for the rest of the season and protected the defense by eating up the clock with time of possession.

    Manning is clearly the better passer than Tebow, but is he a better fit for Denver at this point? The answer is no, until Denver seriously upgrades its roster. Unfortunately, by that point the window will have closed on Manning’s career.

    Fact is, Denver’s defense ranked 20th in yards allowed last year. Improved, yes, from rock bottom the prior year but hardly a shut down unit. The offensive line is below average (not a good thing for Manning’s health), and the team in counting on a used up Willis McGahee to make the running game go.

    This team is not close to Super Bowl contention with or without Manning. Overall, I rate the Broncos with the worst roster top to bottom in the division. Tomlinson should thank his lucky stars he made the decision he did. Manning, on the other hand, is going to painfully find out the Broncos were actually a better team with Tebow at the helm.

  26. silverbleedblack says: Jun 23, 2012 8:50 PM

    sdcreppin says: Jun 23, 2012 6:51 PM

    Its not 80 percent. raider fans are some of the most bandwagon fans out there. Beating the chargers 3 times since 03 who’s the small brother.I will always remember LT running for a againgst the raiders in overtime. South bay raider club is a joke

    ——————————————————

    Raiders vs Chargers
    57-45-2

    You can say the Raiders only beat the Chargers 3 times since 03. You can also say the Raiders have beat the Chargers the last 3 out of 4 match-ups. It took your choking team almost a full decade of wins, and guess what? We still have 12 games on your “franchise”. So who is really the little brother in all of this?

    AFC WEST SUPER BOWLS

    Raiders-3
    The rest of the division-3
    Super Discharge – ZERO

  27. crise40g says: Jun 23, 2012 10:07 PM

    I wish he took that contract with the Donkeys. Would’ve been nice to see him get pummeled by the new Raiders D, not that crap AD and Chucky B put out there.

    Anyway, good riddance to the self-proclaimed classy guy/crybaby.

  28. tebowsgonnagitya says: Jun 23, 2012 11:08 PM

    Blackhole? Moar like BLACKED OUT!!!!!!!! amirite ??????????

  29. louisvillepride says: Jun 23, 2012 11:23 PM

    Its not 80 percent. raider fans are some of the most bandwagon fans out there. Beating the chargers 3 times since 03 who’s the small brother.I will always remember LT running for a againgst the raiders in overtime. South bay raider club is a joke
    ———————————————————————————–
    Really? Raider fans are bandwagon? Either you love the Raiders or you hate us! There is no “grey area”. This is probably coming from a Charger “fan” that has his car decked out w/ those rediculous Charger bolt stickers all over your car but as soon as you start losing, the stickers, the license plate frame, & flags come off. I’ve seen more Charger gear on people’s car in the off-season than I have in the regular season. San Diego fans in general (Chargers & Padres) are pathetic! I listen to 1090 daily on my commute to work & it’s comedy listening to what the “fans” have to say if they even call-in in the first place. Lee Hamilton might as well be talking to himself! San Diegians don’t even support their own teams. Majority of your fans are military because one thing Diego does well is supporting the troops. Go down to PB & you’ll find a Steeler bar, a Eagles’ bar, anything other than Chargers! The Chargers window has come & gone! Welcome back to being the cellar dwellers of the AFC West! By the way, check the Raiders record against teams all time! We have a winning record against 80% of the league & that’s 9 seasons of 11 loses or more. We have the rings! We have the division titles! We have the HOF’ers. Who do the Chargers have? Fouts, Alworth (who by the way was inducted by Al Davis), Winslow, & soon to be Tomlison. Wow! One last thing! Take those rediculous lightning bolts off the side of your helmets & put a “visa” card on one side & a “master card” on the other. If you know your history (which you probably don’t) the term “Chargers” came from “charge card” which was the big ticket item when they started in LA!

  30. fonz619 says: Jun 23, 2012 11:27 PM

    Good thing he didn’t go over there. We would of hated him more then we do now.

  31. louisvillepride says: Jun 23, 2012 11:41 PM

    ripseau says: Jun 23, 2012 7:50 PM

    “Funny how raider fans talk about fanbase and invading the q but cant see their own team when they play at home. Blackhole? More like blackedout”

    Well, actually, the reason they don’t sell out the games in Oakland, are the same reasons they couldn’t sell out the games in Los Angeles. Too many fans are in jail, or have been deported back to Mexico.

    Well, that, and the fact that in most cases, they just can’t find the stadiums.
    ———————————————————————————–

    The Raiders sold out every home game last year Mr. Wizard! Funny how when the big name teams come to Diego (Green Bay, Pittsburg, Oakland, Baltimore) fans of the opposing team have to buy tickets for not only their team’s game but also another one so Jack Murphy isn’t invaded by the opposing team’s fans. Y’all couldn’t sell ticket even if you gave them away combined w/ a free date w/ a Charger girl!

  32. kwalk4780 says: Jun 23, 2012 11:53 PM

    As a Broncos fans. I am happy LT didnt sign with the Broncos. Not that he couldnt of added something to the team but players have to respect rivalries. Broncos shouldnt go play for division rivals and vice versa. Hear that Eddie Royal. Respect the rivalry.

  33. silverbleedblack says: Jun 24, 2012 12:10 AM

    tebowsgonnagitya says: Jun 23, 2012 11:08 PM

    Blackhole? Moar like BLACKED OUT!!!!!!!! amirite ??????????

    —————————————————-

    No, you are wrong. Every game was sold out last year, including our yearly home game at the Q. 59 points in 3 quarters ring any bell?

  34. sdcreppin says: Jun 24, 2012 1:17 AM

    @ bleed silver and @louisville pride Who choked in the last game of the season? yes there are bars here that belong to certain teams, but guess what, its san diego everyone wants to live here. how many raider fans do you see with 10 stickers on their cars? we dont need a pure chargers bar we live in sd they are all over. as long as we have philip they will be in contention. not like the raiders who have to rebuild again and again and again. you think with all these early first round picks they would turn it around.

  35. sdcreppin says: Jun 24, 2012 1:20 AM

    the raiders should of beat the chargers in the last game of the season in order to reach the playoffs. but they folded. chokeland raiders.

  36. sdcreppin says: Jun 24, 2012 1:24 AM

    since 1995 raiders have had 60 percent of their games blacked out. bandwagon fans

  37. thcnote says: Jun 24, 2012 1:40 AM

    We don’t want LT. The problem with LT is he thinks getting out of the first round is going deep into the playoffs. Chargers SUCK!

  38. louisvillepride says: Jun 24, 2012 1:44 AM

    How many blackouts did the Chargers have because Jack Murphy wasn’t sold out? Oh yeah! More than the Raiders!

  39. joetoronto says: Jun 24, 2012 6:45 AM

    Seau and Tomlinson, two cowards on a coward of a team.

  40. psychoraider904 says: Jun 24, 2012 9:22 AM

    I wish this guy would shut up and go away. Nobody wanted you in Oakland, or the rest of the league. Enjoy retirement loser.

  41. bcraze says: Jun 24, 2012 9:46 AM

    Or as strange as seeing Favre in a Vikings jersey…

  42. pftcensorssuck says: Jun 24, 2012 9:48 AM

    This team is not close to Super Bowl contention with or without Manning. Overall, I rate the Broncos with the worst roster top to bottom in the division. Tomlinson should thank his lucky stars he made the decision he did. Manning, on the other hand, is going to painfully find out the Broncos were actually a better team with Tebow at the helm.
    ———————————————————

    You’re new to football, aren’t you?

    You clearly just started watching football last year, and Peyton Manning is just a bunch of statistics to you.

    This Patriots fan knows just what Peyton Manning can do, and the Denver Broncos just got immeasurablty better.

    But hey, we’ll see how smart you are next January.

  43. bostonspaniard says: Jun 24, 2012 10:21 AM

    Classless!

  44. spellingcops says: Jun 24, 2012 10:34 AM

    Villa43:
    The faulty logic a lot of people, including Tomlinson, are using regarding Denver’s prospects this season is amazing. The theory goes that Denver will be so much better with Manning. If Denver could go 8-8 with Tebow and win a play-off game, then it’s division crown, 13-3 record, and AFC championship and/or Super Bowl with Manning.

    No, no, no. The reason Denver got to 8-8 and won a play-off game was directly related to Tebow and the read option offense. Remember, Denver was 1-4 and going nowhere with a conventional offense when the change was made to Tebow. The read option kept opposing defenses off balance for the rest of the season and protected the defense by eating up the clock with time of possession.

    Manning is clearly the better passer than Tebow, but is he a better fit for Denver at this point? The answer is no, until Denver seriously upgrades its roster. Unfortunately, by that point the window will have closed on Manning’s career.

    Fact is, Denver’s defense ranked 20th in yards allowed last year. Improved, yes, from rock bottom the prior year but hardly a shut down unit. The offensive line is below average (not a good thing for Manning’s health), and the team in counting on a used up Willis McGahee to make the running game go.

    This team is not close to Super Bowl contention with or without Manning. Overall, I rate the Broncos with the worst roster top to bottom in the division. Tomlinson should thank his lucky stars he made the decision he did. Manning, on the other hand, is going to painfully find out the Broncos were actually a better team with Tebow at the helm.
    ——————
    Hey idiot, did you watch any Broncos games last year? You ever think how high that d would be rated if they didn’t have to deal with a record number of 3 & outs by their offense? You’re a freaking ignorant tool and your NFL analysis makes Trent dilfer & merril hodge look like geniuses.

  45. dasmol says: Jun 24, 2012 10:41 AM

    Riaduh fans talking about blackouts, that’s rich! Raiduh fans are the ultimate bandwagoners. You got guys in toronto that have never even been to a game, claiming to be die hard fans. Must’ve started being a fan when they WERE good. How trendy. Not to mention all the the LA guys that have no team.

    Louisvillepride – Must have been some time since you attended the Charger/raiduh games. 80% was when the raiduhs were good. Their fans in San Diego have long since been neutured.

    Doesn’t surprise me that Denver was interested. They’re desperate.

    Keep harping on Seau, Joe. You can’t hurt him or Charger fans, and only reveal your true nature.

  46. raiderapologist says: Jun 24, 2012 11:18 AM

    dougydougdoug says: Jun 23, 2012 8:13 PM
    dougydougdoug says: Jun 23, 2012 8:13 PM

    @raiderapologist:

    I like your reasoning. Along those lines, during LT’s career, exactly how many championships did the Raiders take home? In fact, let’s take this a little further. In that same amount of time, which NFL team lead the league in penalties, consecutive losing seasons, and losing streaks to another team? Yes, it’s a trick question, because we all know that answer.
    So, if the Chargers and LT were choking, what precisely were the Raiders doing that whole time? Would you consider that to be a “commitment to excellence”?
    —-
    That’s the thing about Charger fans. They like to compare their team to the Raiders of the past decade, because the Raiders have obviously been pretty terrible during that stretch. But during Tomlinson’s career, the Raiders did at least reach the Super Bowl, something the Chargers never did with Tomlinson. And while the Raiders have been down, the Chargers have had plenty of opportunities to earn some success of their own. And what did they do? Choke.

  47. villa41 says: Jun 24, 2012 12:27 PM

    spellingcops says:
    pftcensorssuck says:
    —————————————————-

    Uhhh, I’ve been watching (and played) football for quite some time. The key is I know what I’m watching and how to analyze. It’s pretty clear you guys don’t. As a Raider fan, I’ve watched plenty of Bronco games. I always keep a close eye on the division.

    The Broncos finished first in the league in rushing with 164.5 yards a game. They also had 17.9 first downs a game and 29.43 minutes a game in time of possession. Both of those numbers are middle of the pack rankings.

    Your “record number of 3 and outs” comment just doesn’t hold up. Denver didn’t have any more 3 and outs than most teams. If it wasn’t for the offense moving the ball like it did on the ground, then how many more three and outs do you think there would have been. Yeah, plenty.

    Why don’t you guys put some put some real facts behind your statements and quantify your arguments? Until you do, you’re the ones who look like tools and morons. Oh yeah, facts aside, I wonder how Payton’s neck is going to hold up after a year off with no contact?

  48. louisvillepride says: Jun 24, 2012 12:42 PM

    @dasmol-I work Chargers games as security from time to time. I’ve worked Raiders/Chargers & Steelers/Chargers. Both times the opposing team out numbered y’all 2:1 if not 3:1 if you take away the super gang bangers that rock powder blue but are not even fans. Why do you think visiting team fans have to buy tickets to two games vise just buying one game? You & I know the answer to that!

    @ sdcreepin-Really Playboy? The only reason you have half the people that you have living in San Diego is because of the military! Take away 32nd St, Coronado, North Island, & Miramar and this place would be a sleepy little California town on the coast. I love San Diego so much I’m leaving once I retire in 5 years. Yeah, I’ll miss the year around riding weather but cé la víe! Now to the Raider/Charger thing. We don’t need to fly a million stickers, flags, etc. just look on the car in front of you license plate frame. On the top of it it will say OAKLAND RAIDERS & on the bottom it will say RAIDER NATION. That’s all you need!

  49. dasmol says: Jun 24, 2012 6:02 PM

    @louisville – Both times? That’s working time to time? lol

    When the raiduhs were good, they filled the Murph. True. During the last decade however, that number has steadily declined, and raiduh fans have become more and more docile. I’ve seen it happen over the course of years, not time to time. In fact, speaking of band wagons, as a Charger fan, I’ve probably been to more raiduh games than most of the ‘nation’ that posts on this forum. lol Some nation.

    I’ve even had a few raiduh fans admit that if the team got better, they’d go to the games. That is the very definitation of bandwagons and fairweather.

    Furthermore, San Diego is a major state side tourist destination. Fans from all over the country pencil in a mini-vacation when they see their team plays in San Diego. And as a military/tourist town, many opposing fans already live here. Not bandwagon fans that grew to like a team when they were good mind you, but people from the place where the team actually plays.

    Nobody plans to spend time in Oakland, unless ordered by a court of law.

  50. djflav303 says: Jun 24, 2012 8:16 PM

    Why would u charger fans even try and argue with raiders fans and start making comparisons with them. Bronco fans don’t don’t even recognize them as football fans so we don’t really talk to them. They wear that team as a fashion statement, not as a team they support and beating the broncos is like winning the Super Bowl to them. We are really interested in winning the actual super bowl, not just a beating a team in our division. They’re just not on our level or the level of the other teams in the afc west. That’s just the truth.

  51. louisvillepride says: Jun 24, 2012 9:14 PM

    @dasmol-So your saying your a “closet” Raiders fan since you been to more Raider games than most fans in the “nation” have been to? Unless the Raiders were playing a particular team I wouldn’t be caught dead in a rivals stadium. As far as these mythical Raiders fans you know, being the “closet” Raider fan you should know that there were Al Davis loyalist & those that wanted Al Davis to relinquish power & hire a GM. I fell into the second group. It seemed like the only thing Davis cared about was making money off sales, merchandise, etc. The term “Just Win Baby” simply became a cliché! A lot of fans stop going to games w/ the intent that if Davis wasn’t banking on the Raiders name then change would come. But like the Old Man said in “Grumpier Old Men”, “you can wish in one hand & crap in the other & see which one gets filled up first”. You would have to pry that team from his cold dead hands which is exactly what happened. Even w/ the “civil war” we were still one nation. “Win, Lose, or Tie, Raider ’til I die” will always be associated w/ Raider fans. Are there probably band wagon fans? Yeah! Every team has them. Some more than others (Cowboys & Chargers come to mind).
    As far as Diego is concerned, if it’s such a desired place to come to, why is the city bankrupted year after year after year? Anybody that has been or lived (me) in Oakland knows that it’s a dump so thanks for the complement! Oakland is blue collar & grimey compared to it prissy neighbor across the Bay. Oaklandians know what & who we are & don’t shy away from it. Oaklandians are rebels by nature, look at the history of the city (Hell’s Angels, Black Panthers, the A’s & Raiders of the ’70’s). We don’t want to be like prissy *** San Francisco or San Diego. We’re happy who we are!
    As far as this subject is concerned, I’m done w/ it. The best chance the Chargers had to win a title died when John Butler (R.I.P) passed & when you traded or released the heart of your team (Drew Brees, Junior Seau, Rodney Harrison, LaDaimian Tomlison). Funny how 2 out of the 4 won Super Bowls & two came closer than any of the Chargers teams they played for. You will never win w/ Norvell or A.J. Smith. It damn near took y’all 10+ years to un**** the Bobby Bethard disaster! Wow! You won for a couple of years! You got a couple of division titles. You made a the playoffs but didn’t do much. Rivers & Gates are on the backside of their careers & what y’all did in the off-season to compensate for the loss of Vincent Jackson & the short yardage RB that went to Carolina won’t make up for what they brought to the table. Like I said before, welcome back to being the cellar dwellers of the AFC West. The Queefs will more than likely win the division, the Donkeys will get in as a wild card, the Raiders will be competive but I doubt we can do a turn around like the Whiners did the previous season but we will contend! The Chargers will be battling for 3rd if not 4th! Welcome back to your riteful place at the dinner table that is the AFC West.
     

  52. dasmol says: Jun 25, 2012 1:28 PM

    @ Louisvillepride –

    I see that reading comprehension eludes you. I said, as a Charger Fan (in San Diego), I’ve probably seen more raiduh games than most of the ‘nation’ of this board. I stand by that. Most of the nation doesn’t go to games, and began being a fan while the team was winning SB’s some 25 years ago, or maybe they just liked pirates.

    The fact of the matter, from someone who goes to every game unlike your fabled nation, is that raiduh fans lost their bite several years ago and have only last season made a re-appearance. Funny how winning does that for bandwagoners.

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