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Deuce McAllister calls bounties “something every team does”

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One former Saint who retired the year before the NFL alleges that Gregg Williams arrives and implemented a bounty program says the whole thing doesn’t surprise him.

Deuce McAllister, the Saints’ all-time leading rusher, told the Shreveport Times that he doesn’t think the Saints’ defense was doing anything from 2009 to 2011 that other NFL teams don’t do.

It’s something every team does — or did,” McAllister said. “You’re just the team that got caught. It’s unfortunate.”

In the next breath, however, McAllister acknowledged that he never knew of anything like the bounty program that the NFL alleges the Saints implemented.

“I didn’t know to that extent,” McAllister said.

So what does McAllister think every team does? According to McAllister, the pay-for-performance programs that he remember were the type of thing where a running back who fumbled had to put some money in a pot, and that money would be used as a reward.

“Sometimes we might have $500 or $600 in the pot after a game that would pay for a real nice dinner for the six or seven running backs,” McAllister said. “Or after some games we might donate the money in the pot to our manager who was assigned to take care of the running backs, Corey Gaudet.”

What McAllister is describing may, indeed, be something every team does. But what McAllister is describing is a far cry from what the NFL alleges the Saints did.

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18 Responses to “Deuce McAllister calls bounties “something every team does””
  1. kwgator says: Jun 24, 2012 8:38 AM

    Keep digging your own grave

  2. patriotsdefense says: Jun 24, 2012 8:47 AM

    “It’s something every team does — or did,” McAllister said. “You’re just the team that got caught. It’s unfortunate.”
    ——-

    And just like the patriots, the saints were the team that was caught. Unlike the patriots, the saints are trying to battle this out in court and it’s making them look bad and wiping away all love the city rebuilt.

    Take your punishment and move on. It would be a smaller story if they’d just be men.

  3. blackcatsluck says: Jun 24, 2012 9:07 AM

    I’m thinking he bases his comments on the fact that he saw the same thing on every NFL team that he played for……Oh wait.

  4. benmci says: Jun 24, 2012 9:10 AM

    Bounty or Incentive Program- right or wrong it has been going on since the invention of the face mask. It goes on in Pee Wee football, High School football, NCAA Football- your job is to win the game- everyone has incentives at their work- guess what so does the NFL – Goodall and or the NFL has manipulated the information to their advantage. The Saints- yes -they are guilty of this and for being idiots but- no- the NFL does not have substance in their info to support the guilt of certain players. Vilma has a strong case against Roger for defamation- Roger has good evidence that the bounty system occurred but not specifically on Vilma

  5. lks311 says: Jun 24, 2012 9:25 AM

    I think the issue, Deuce, is that EVERY team—when WARNED—did not CONTINUE to do them.

  6. saberstud75 says: Jun 24, 2012 9:44 AM

    Yes Deuce, every team does it… just like every player takes Performance enhancing supplements. It just so happens that just you and the Saints got caught doing it.

    Let’s not forget that Deuce retired before serving a suspension from using a banned substance that masks steroids. I don’t see why Deuce is chiming in on this subject, his credibility is in question.

  7. mostepicgnar says: Jun 24, 2012 10:03 AM

    Ah the immature child defense, “But Daddy, they did it too!”.

  8. nepo784 says: Jun 24, 2012 10:27 AM

    Any opinion that comes from a guy named Deuce, you should take with a grain of salt

  9. wussbasket says: Jun 24, 2012 10:34 AM

    there is a huge difference between a “pay-for-performance” and “pay-to-injure” scheme. every team in the NFL has some kind of “pay-for-performance” scheme, go back and read all the articles where players for other teams came out and said they have some kind of incentive program. Goodell is painting this as a pay-to-injure when there is next to no evidence that supports that notion. both are against the rules of the NFL but there is absolutely no need for Goodell to ruin these players reputation by labeling it as a bounty program. when this is all said and done, Goodell will be the one suffering the most.

  10. thejuddstir says: Jun 24, 2012 10:37 AM

    I think the early comments have pretty much hit the nail on the head. Duece cheated with steriods so cheating is acceptable to him. Duece only played for the Saints so how does he know “every team does, did , done it”, Duece admits the Stains are the one’s that “got caught”, perhaps other teams did it but they apparently stopped when they were warned by the league to do so….but the Stains chose to keep doing it and then to lie and cover it up (big difference), Duece like Stains players and fans like to play semantics and try to downgrade (like from a Katrina to a tropical storm) that it wasn’t a “bounty system” but a “pay for performance” like what the other teams probably do. Anyways, isn’t it time to send the baby Stains to their bedrooms for their well-earned “timeouts”. Like every fan outside the state of Louisiana says, “quit crying and take your medicine like a man”

  11. pawpaw46 says: Jun 24, 2012 11:04 AM

    patriotsdefense says:
    Jun 24, 2012 8:47 AM
    ——-

    And just like the patriots, the saints were the team that was caught. Unlike the patriots, the saints are trying to battle this out in court and it’s making them look bad and wiping away all love the city rebuilt.

    Take your punishment and move on. It would be a smaller story if they’d just be men.

    And unlike the patriots whose punishment amounted to a finger wagging lecture followed by a pat on the head and told to run along and be a good boy now…
    the Saints got hit like a hurricane….losing our head coach for a year, one for 6 games and a GM for 8 games plus players, draft picks and a half a million dollar fine….

    So don’t even try to move your mouth to say “take your punishment like men” ass hat.

    Had the penalties been half of what they are, which would still be unprecedented and still very harsh, this would all be over.

    I’m as sick of all of this as anyone, but don’t get it twisted… this is an attempted lynching, and no Saints fan, player, coach, owner, or janitor is going to just “take it”

  12. musicman495 says: Jun 24, 2012 11:05 AM

    “NEW ORLEANS — The NFL denies accusations it covered up retractions made by key witnesses in its bounty investigation, or that commissioner Roger Goodell has placed gag orders on New Orleans Saints employees and others who could help punished players clear their names.

    Lawyer Peter Ginsberg, who represents suspended Saints player Jonathan Vilma, made the accusations when punished players appeared earlier this week for an appeal hearing, a full transcript of which has been obtained by The Associated Press.

    …The early portions of the transcript detail a series of verbal jousts that Ginsberg sought to deliver to the commissioner before leaving the appeals hearing early in protest.

    In discussing witnesses he has been unable to speak with, Ginsberg told Goodell, “You have made threats to keep them from talking to us. You have refused to have them even participate in today’s proceedings.”

    …Ginsberg also accused the NFL of distorting evidence introduced at the appeals hearing, including an email from marketing agent Mike Ornstein to Williams, whom the NFL says ran a bounty program from 2009-11.

    In the email, Ornstein tells Williams he gave him “1,500 last week, I will give you another 1,500 the next four game (sic) and the final 2,000 the last 4.” Ginsberg asserts that the NFL included the email as evidence even after Ornstein told Goodell the email related to a Gregg Williams charity.”

    Well, well, well. Money supposedly contributed to a bounty pool was actually being given for a Gregg Williams charity. Maybe Roger Goodell will learn it is always a good idea to actually conduct an investigation before you reach a conclusion.

  13. chickenneck says: Jun 24, 2012 11:11 AM

    “Deuce McAllister calls bounties “something every team does””

    That doesn’t appear to be what he said at all. Looks more like he said pay fr performance pools are something every team does.

  14. valentino8100 says: Jun 24, 2012 11:16 AM

    The Saints players, coaches, front office, and fans have to accept the reprocussions of getting caught up in bounty-gate just as the Patriots organization did with spy-gate. As naive as it would be to assume the Patriots and Saints alone were guilty of said infractions, it would be even more naive not to understand why Goodell and co. have no choice but to act. Any intelligent person can understand that Goodell is only protecting the league. In this case, by league, I mean players, coaches, owners, and fans alike. At a time where player safety is under so much scrutiny, if the commissioner fails to address this kind of issue, a firestorm of criticism, scrutism, probing, sanctioning, and possibly even legislating may ensue. My Patriots took it on the chin for “cheating”, now it’s time for the Saints to take one for the team with “bounties”. It’s an unfortunate aspect I believe of the 24 hour news cycle.

  15. goredskins11 says: Jun 24, 2012 11:27 AM

    WOW. I still see so many, “take your punishment and move on” opinions. I would hope that no one cheats on their girlfriend/boyfriend, but I know it happens. So the next time one of you does so, maybe you will get accused and convicted of rape. You did something wrong, so maybe you should just take your punishment like a man.
    How can bending over and taking it in the rear for something you didn’t do be considered “taking it like a man”? Standing up for yourself is more “manly”.

  16. dzor22 says: Jun 24, 2012 12:28 PM

    Wait!! I thought there was no such thing as a bounty?

  17. 93warchant says: Jun 24, 2012 3:24 PM

    let’s see… maybe drew can call deuce a liar… probably not, saints fans are so delusional about this issue. reality is hitting hard, your daydreaming thinking all is ok, but the saints are in near disarray.the bounty scandal coaches and players suspended and fined denials everywhere all while people who were in the organization daily saying it happened and sorry. And the kick in the pants the ownership and the best player they ever had cant agree on a contract. which says to the rest of the team if management wont take care of our record breaking qb how can they take care of me. those are the realities.

  18. acetw says: Jun 25, 2012 10:48 PM

    To everyone here with a bit of common sense..

    Please email “help@profootballtalk.com” and complain about Mike Smith intentionally misrepresenting his article with the title he wrote for it.
    Deuce McAllister in NO WAY called bounties something every team does, as stated within the article itself he stated that ‘pay for performance’ was something every team does, and he’s right.
    This is simply another effort to distort the truth and foster more ill will against the Saints.

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