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On bounty appeal decision, Vilma asks, “What’s this guy waiting on?”

Jonathan Vilma AP

Shortly after we posted the news that the NFL won’t hand down its decision today on the four players who are appealing their suspensions in the Saints’ bounty investigation, one of those suspended players pointedly asked why not.

Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma, whose yearlong suspension is one of the harshest punishments of any kind in NFL history, wrote on Twitter that he doesn’t understand why NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell can’t just go ahead and issue his verdict on the appeal already, which Vilma seems to assume will be that the appeals are denied.

“What’s this guy waiting on? Make your ruling so we can get on with phase 2 already,” Vilma wrote.

What Goodell is probably waiting on is to make sure he has as strong a public case as he can make about why the suspensions of Vilma, Anthony Hargrove, Will Smith and Scott Fujita should stand. The four suspended players didn’t give Goodell any new evidence that he needs time to weigh, but the public holes that have been poked in the NFL’s version of the evidence may have given Goodell pause, enough that he wants to take some time to craft his PR message. It’s also possible, if Goodell wants to lessen the scrutiny on his appeal decision, that he’s waiting for a busier news day than today, when there’s nothing else going on in the NFL.

But eventually Goodell is going to make his ruling, and it’s going to be exactly the ruling that Vilma sees coming.

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35 Responses to “On bounty appeal decision, Vilma asks, “What’s this guy waiting on?””
  1. butthatmakestoomuchsense says: Jun 25, 2012 4:49 PM

    Keep acting in poor faith, Commissioner. Continue building the case against yourself. Real smart.

  2. musicman495 says: Jun 25, 2012 4:51 PM

    I am sure Roger just needs time to get his ducks in a row.

  3. vtopa says: Jun 25, 2012 4:56 PM

    What’s he waiting on? Probably for some magical “evidence” to fall out of the sky and save his reputation as the fair and impartial all knowing leader of the NFL. Keeping praying Uncle Rodger…it ain’t coming. You look like an idiot. Quit your job.

  4. truthfactory says: Jun 25, 2012 4:57 PM

    Im sure if he would have made a quick decesion he’d be tweeting about he made up his decision way too fast and didnt consider all the aspects of the case.

    Typical dumb player reaction who has no clue on how things really work.

  5. whodatsaybaby says: Jun 25, 2012 5:01 PM

    PHASE 2—–ENGAGED! ! ! ! ! !

  6. yssupasigninnamnotyep says: Jun 25, 2012 5:03 PM

    Hey Vilma, why do you keep opening your mouth?

    Just shut up already!

  7. nflfan555 says: Jun 25, 2012 5:06 PM

    Please go away Wilma

  8. jason1980 says: Jun 25, 2012 5:11 PM

    Yeah, and unless Goddell has REAL ironclad evidence to justify suspending these players, this is a good time to present it. He can’t make assumptions on what he thinks the players intentions were, there has to be proof beyond a shadow of doubt. The public is not buying his bogus investigation, his evidence is inaccurate, unsubstantiated, and incomplete. Until the NFL can show that they have conducted a professional investigation, where there is no room for ambiguity, their actions will be suspect, and his credibility forever tarnished. This “bounty” situation is well beyond the Saints at is point, the commissioner’s reputation is on the line here, and if I were him, I would be very careful.

    Goddell*

  9. thegreatgabbert says: Jun 25, 2012 5:11 PM

    “What’s that guy waiting on, it’s hard hanging up here and those nails through my wrists are getting really painful….”.

  10. easyeddie says: Jun 25, 2012 5:12 PM

    Sorry Mr. Smith, but the supposed holes that have been poked in the league’s case are the distractions invented by the accused, their lawyers and bloggers who stand to gain by muckraking.

  11. bleedgreen says: Jun 25, 2012 5:22 PM

    I agree, what’s he waiting on? He already had all the evidence, right? He made the decision in the first place, it shouldn’t be tough to decide if you want to reduce/remove the punishment or change your mind, right? RIGHT?!

    Seriously, if the guy that makes the original decision also hears the appeals, shouldn’t the decision come almost immediately? If it was a 3rd party arbitrator, etc, then yeah, take your time, weigh each argument, but that diligence should be done the FIRST time you make the decision, not after you’ve already decided and made said decision public.

  12. cooklynn17 says: Jun 25, 2012 5:27 PM

    Relax there V, your still not playing football this year, unless its Madden, so what’s the rush?

  13. kinguga says: Jun 25, 2012 5:27 PM

    It is funny that Vilma, Fujita, and some of these other dudes think they can big-time Goodell. Like it or not, the ginger Goodell runs their damn league. Morons.

  14. r8rsfan says: Jun 25, 2012 5:41 PM

    It’s like that kid who sits there until the time limit for the test expires, staring at the ceiling waiting for a gift from heaven. Once the time expires he hands in his partially completed test and shuffles out, knowing how poor the results will be.

  15. surly1n1nd1anapol1s says: Jun 25, 2012 5:55 PM

    I am tired of Vilma. If he never plays another down, I’ll be fine with that.

  16. sdisme says: Jun 25, 2012 6:04 PM

    “What Goodell is probably waiting on is to make sure he has as strong a public case as he can”

    Even “the twelve” have said the evidence was just pay for performance. Except the 1 that is on vacation. Staunch supporters (sirius/xm radio hosts) of Goodell were questioning the evidence today.

    Waiting is making his case weaker. Should have just ruled last Monday afternoon since everyone knows what he will say anyway.

  17. 93warchant says: Jun 25, 2012 6:20 PM

    vilma vs the shield . this was a done deal a long time ago. as i said before vilma is trying to fight a lion with bare knuckles.

  18. eaglebranded says: Jun 25, 2012 6:41 PM

    Now the case is weak all Goodell has to do is say who the player is that helped the investigation . Trying to protect him or them is making people wonder . Oh yeah he can’t do that because the player would be wronged and could sue the NFL. Seems like a tight place to be in .

  19. sampulls says: Jun 25, 2012 6:41 PM

    ***Higher Standards for the NFL***
    These players are ‘offended’ that the NFL doesn’t have the empirical proof; and they are equally concerned with the integrity of the evidence.

    ***Lower Standards for Themselves***
    If they held these same standards for themselves, they would have publicly called out the NFLPA when they said to not cooperate. Instead these same players have complied and withheld evidence.

    Irony anyone???

  20. sdisme says: Jun 25, 2012 7:00 PM

    sampulls says: Jun 25, 2012 6:41 PM

    ***Higher Standards for the NFL***
    These players are ‘offended’ that the NFL doesn’t have the empirical proof; and they are equally concerned with the integrity of the evidence.

    ***Lower Standards for Themselves***
    If they held these same standards for themselves, they would have publicly called out the NFLPA when they said to not cooperate. Instead these same players have complied and withheld evidence.

    Irony anyone???

    ____________________________

    Anthony Hargrove decided to cooperate and it cost him 8 games.

    Tell me the next player that will agree to speak with NFL investigators?

  21. musicman495 says: Jun 25, 2012 7:13 PM

    “Hey, Jonathan, don’t you know it takes time to find another federal prosecutor who had nothing to do with the investigation to vouch for how iron clad the evidence is?”

  22. 2ruefan says: Jun 25, 2012 7:34 PM

    butthatmakestoomuchsense says: Jun 25, 2012 4:49 PM

    Keep acting in poor faith, Commissioner. Continue building the case against yourself. Real smart.

    ************************************************

    No “bad faith” involved in any of it.

    Players and coaches knowingly and willfully violated good sportsmanship and league rules and strove to inure people.

    They were found out, there is written and verbal evidence

    There will be consequences for it, and I’m glad of it.

    Otherwise the NFL will just become another NBA gangsta sport.

  23. jakek2 says: Jun 25, 2012 7:55 PM

    He’ll bury the decision on Friday afternoon like he does with all others. Goodell is a no good, fink, rat-b.

  24. northshoresaint9 says: Jun 25, 2012 8:14 PM

    …I miss Paul Tagliabue.

  25. mark921129 says: Jun 25, 2012 9:17 PM

    What’s he waiting on? Perhaps he enjoys making a dirtbag twist in the wind.

  26. bereado says: Jun 25, 2012 9:20 PM

    2 rue:

    Where is your evidence? That is the entire problem with this pay for injur accusation. Where is this verbal and written evidence? Because the NFL has not shown it. You can claim to have evidence if you like, but if you do not present it, it is all BS. Take Fujita, for instance: what rule did he violate? Where is your verbal and written evidence?

    Don’t be such a sheep to the NFL PR machine, man.

  27. percey12 says: Jun 25, 2012 9:27 PM

    Mr. Goddell,

    Don’t listen to these low life Saints fans who choose to stand up for and condone liars, cheaters, and criminals!

    please continue to protect the the NFL game from these type of people, your doing the american people a great service!

  28. benchwarmer69 says: Jun 25, 2012 9:38 PM

    The whole Saints org is a joke. Instead of acting like men, they’re whining about their punishment.

    They were told to stop TWO years before this punishment was thrown at them, but didn’t. From top to bottom, they’re a dirty team.

    These guys are just hurting the “game they love” to preserve their careers and money. It’s selfish, which initself is what they did when they placed money on injuring players in the first place.

    These guys would rather ruin football before they ever lost a dime. It says a lot about their lack of character. Every team in the league does these sorts of things, however, when you get caught, you should accept your beat-down like a man.

  29. thejuddstir says: Jun 25, 2012 9:41 PM

    Perhaps Vilma and his friends should listen to M. Vick on the topic of Goodell as Vick addressed the NFL Rookies in their symposium today…..””I got that chance to do it again, thanks to Roger Goodell,” Vick said. “Fellas, don’t get it twisted. This man is the real deal. He don’t play. If he asks you a question, answer with honesty. Tell him the truth. If you get into some trouble, be honest, truthful, forthright. Don’t play with this man. He’ll love you to death, but the minute you cross him, he’ll be all the way turned up.”……message is clear to Vilma, his lawyer and the Stains, “the man don’t play”.

  30. damnskins703 says: Jun 25, 2012 9:49 PM

    Man I hate GOODELL he is trying to ruin the league

  31. smillr58 says: Jun 25, 2012 10:17 PM

    vilma and the ain’ts are going DOWN HARD!

  32. northshoresaint9 says: Jun 25, 2012 11:56 PM

    …percey12, spoken like a true & bitter Vagqueens’-fan. :p

    benchwarmer69, U think we’re dirty from top 2 bottom? Pffft. U sound like a jealous Failclowns’-fan.

    This was a ‘pay-4-performance’ scheme of the defense 2 get the most out of its players. The terminology was suspect & so was the ultimate leader of the Saints defense, Gregg Williams. It’s a VIOLENT game. Pay 4 performance is going 2 include trying 2 knock the snot out of your opponents. So, either way U look @ it, this kind of behavior leads 2 questionable tactics. It’s doubtful, i.m.o., Saints players were trying 2 end opposing players careers or lives; they were just trying 2 do what probably EVERY defense tries 2 do…. LAY SOME PAIN DOWN & put fear/doubt in offensive player’s minds & bodies. That’s the object of American-football defenses anyway, right? Right! What’s wrong is the extra incentive monies involved that makes it look like back-alley gambling. Rich coaches & players acting like BIG, dumb kids w/ their $’s. Punishments should have been monetary 4 the players & a few games 4 the coaches & management. Get real people! Sheesh’!

  33. packhawk04 says: Jun 26, 2012 12:19 AM

    Saints organization admitted to a bounty system. Lets move on.

  34. jcg23 says: Jun 26, 2012 4:15 AM

    At this point, I’d hope he goes full contact here’s my proof and it is so damaging that he can say, life time ban you stupid idiots and just wave them off. So sick of these guys.

  35. kugzilla says: Jun 27, 2012 1:57 PM

    Goodell realizes he burned all the evidence accidently with all of the video evidence from the Patriots Spygate………oops!

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