Comments on: Are Brees and Fujita facing retaliation for their roles in CBA process?

By: bigball1

bigball1 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:48:28 +0000

It is interesting to see some of these post where the author speaks so boldly regarding the guilt of the suspended players. Evidence of a pay for performance…yes. Pay for injury….no! The coaches were penalized because the club can not run a PFP program and they likely went to efforts to cover the fact that it existed. There is nothing in the CBA that precludes the players to have PFP between themselves. It has existed for years. For the players that have stated that they never contributed to a “pool” they are not in violation of any rule….And to dispense penalty without clear evidence is not how the NFL or anything else should be done.
There should not be one person out there that would not protest what Goodell has done if it was done to them….The anger and outrage of being accused of something you know you did not do is pretty hard to “just accept”.

By: feomax

feomax — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:44:40 +0000

NFLPA(GUN)…NFL..(Golden Goose)..= X ‘s for goose ‘s Eyes…(or dead duck ..callit what you will.) same thing

By: exboomer

exboomer — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:22:08 +0000

They should change the name of the NFL to the NFLL, National Football Legal League since it seems some players are more interested in suing the league for every percieved offense than actually playing in it.

By: whodatgirl1

whodatgirl1 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 06:26:51 +0000

Dude, it didn’t matter who played the Rams that week, they were going to loose. Remember that the Cardinals had just won the world series and there was a lot of pride in the city.

By: jason1980

jason1980 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 04:49:49 +0000

@thcnote…..I’m talking about the powerhouse Saints that turn the ball over 6 times, and the SF 49′ers barely won in the last few seconds of the playoff game. You’re not fooling anybody by disputing the prowess of the Saints. Regarding the Rams, you talking about the Rams???? It’s the NFL, any given Sunday. Get over it pal, the Saints are scary, and judging from the interest we get from you boys, we can see your knees a shakin’ Who Dat!!

By: j0esixpack

j0esixpack — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 04:14:27 +0000

It’s retailiation – but just for embarrassing Goodell with Bountygate.

Goodell’s MO is to over-react – react like it’s the crime of the century and he’s never been aware of it.

He acted in a similar fashion when the Patriots placed their signal taping cameras in the location authorized in 2006, but no longer authorized in 2007 (the stands.)

Kraft and Belichick agreed to “take one” for the NFL so Goodell and the league would look tough and clean.

Brees and Fujita aren’t willing to let themselves be used like that.

By: thcnote

thcnote — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 03:56:07 +0000

jason1980 says:
Jun 27, 2012 7:38 PM
And we Saints fans are so tired of the same posters posting on every single Saints article. We know that you guys are envious of the powerhouse Saints, but C’mon man!!
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Are you referring to the powerhouse Saints that got beat by the Rams. The Rams. Bahahahahaha!

By: bigball1

bigball1 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 03:28:33 +0000

Could Roger Goodell hear a rumor that Tom Brady put a thousand dollars in a Super Bowl parties pool and see a note pad with his name next to $1,000 suspend him for a year, even though it is not true? YES he can do that. Without ever having to prove the fact or to reveal where he heard the story. This has to stop! The idea that the NFLPA did not fore see the abuse of power that the commissioner was going to use when he was allowed to retain the authority in the CBA and this fiasco is what we are dealing with is truly unbelievable.
That the “Due Process” which is part of the fabric of what we believe in was totally disregarded in these bounty suspensions is shameful. That Goodell has the authority to do this is terrible, that he did do it, is embarrassing. To charge and dispense penalty without letting these players see any evidence and defend themselves, to show what little evidence they did at the very last possible moment allowable by the CBA is a joke. Unfortunately this is not a game and it is not funny.
Shame on Roger Goodell and all in his circle….

By: drgreenstreak

drgreenstreak — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 03:21:25 +0000

“Fujita also questioned the league’s laxity in linking concussion injuries to long-term health effects,”

While Brees may be taking hits from all sides, Fujita is a straight-up, two-faced, lying, deceiving piece of excrement.

By: ronry

ronry — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 02:49:00 +0000

I have wondered for awhile about Fujita, but for a different reason. He’s on the executive board of the NFLPA and fighting for players rights which include their safety. If he was involved in the bounty system that was looking to ‘cart off’ opposing players, wouldn’t his position in the union actually make him the worst offender? If he can be an outspoken leader with the NFL on player safety, he should have been a leader in the Saints locker room.

By: stanklepoot

stanklepoot — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 02:35:22 +0000

I think most of this retaliation idea depends on a kind of Roger Goodell that doesn’t really exist in my opinion. My take on the guy is that if you’re an obstacle to his goals (like the CBA) or an embarrassment to the league, then he won’t hesitate to absolutely destroy you. Afterwards, however, I don’t think he’s the kind of guy that’s going to hold a major grudge…especially not a big enough one to do what’s being alleged here. Why do I think that? Past history. Vick lied to his face and gave the league a huge black eye. Once he came clean and showed remorse, however, he was given a second chance. How many chances has Adam Jones been given? The list goes on and on with the same results. Goodell brings down the hammer, but then gives them an opportunity to redeem themselves. So no, a retaliation of this sort just doesn’t seem to fit with Goodell’s history. Now, if it were something ordered by ownership (and he simply couldn’t convince them to alter their plans), then I could maybe believe it. For all the talk of him acting like GODell, the truth is he’s been a rather loyal vassal of ownership.

By: stanklepoot

stanklepoot — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 02:16:45 +0000

Why would they be? The owners have no reason to want revenge. They kicked the stuffing out of the players in the CBA negotiations. Fujita is being punished along with others for his alleged role in a bounty program. So, unless you believe that Payton, Williams, Vitt, Hargrove, Smith, and Vilma are all being punished as cover for the league going after Fujita, I think it’s safe to say the CBA negotiations really don’t have much to do with this. As for Brees, this is just another case of a team trying to “convince” a player to give them a bit of a home town discount. It’s simple really. The Saints believe that Brees is such a team player, and so concerned about how he is perceived by others, that he’ll back down in the end and either agree to an offer lower than he feels he deserves or play on the franchise tag. It’s not really all that original as far as stories go. It’s just that everything that’s going on with the Saints franchise makes it seem like it would be better for them to simply pay full price for Brees so that they can put their fans and players at ease…or as at ease as they can be under the circumstances.

By: fakefranknunley57

fakefranknunley57 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 02:14:35 +0000

yes

By: stew48

stew48 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 02:08:05 +0000

In answer to the question created by your headline, a couple of obvious possibilities:

1. Is NYC big?
2. Do birds fly?
3. Was Jerry Rice a good receiver?

etc., etc., etc. ad nauseum.

By: mtrhead269

mtrhead269 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 02:06:05 +0000

If Brees doesn’t like the contract the Saints are offering. He could always retire and open a public relations firm

By: mjkelly77

mjkelly77 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:59:42 +0000

While there’s no obvious link between the bounty suspensions and the fact that quarterback Drew Brees still doesn’t have a contract, there’s a belief that Brees and former Saints linebacker Scott Fujita are experiencing retaliation for their roles in last year’s CBA talks.
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While there’s no obvious link between the bounty suspensions and the role of Drew Brees in last year’s CBA talks, there’s a belief that Brees is experiencing retaliation because he still doesn’t have a contract.

Makes about the same amount of sense.

By: jackericsson

jackericsson — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:54:05 +0000

I do enjoy watching Brees on the field. Off the field I can’t stand him. He’s coming across as a spoiled LITTLE brat!

By: bigbluefan1

bigbluefan1 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:32:28 +0000

The NFL was a much better place when teams like the Lions and the Saints were seen and not heard.

The Saints win one Super Bowl and they are gods gift.

They got in the playoffs last year and a team that had Alex Smith as a QB spanked them
Get over it you had your moment now shut up and go back to being a town that is known for lewd and drunk behavior.

And yes I have been there and once was more then enough.

By: fooath

fooath — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 00:47:00 +0000

And there we go.

All the way to “conspiracy”.

They have nothing left with a basis in reality.

By: senky3

senky3 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 00:45:22 +0000

jakek2: and i can’t wait until the courts get involved and all the real evidence comes out. then the truth about the felons giving money, coaches teaching dirty hits, and the lying BY the saints come out and the penalties are alot worse than they are now.

By: dj121191

dj121191 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 00:32:14 +0000

Dear Drew,
if someone offers you $18+million a year to do something you love, take it with a big smile on your face
Sincerely, every hard working person in america

By: goodolebaghead

goodolebaghead — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 00:26:58 +0000

If you are dissing on Brees, you don’t pay attention to him. The dude is literally a Saint. Why does he want more money? Probably because he can think of a billion charities that can use the money more than Tom Benson.

You’re also forgetting that he was franchised by SD, hurt, and kicked to the curb just like that with his entire future up in the air. He got picked up by NOLA and spent the last 6 years working his butt off to be the phenomenal QB he is.

It only makes sense that he wants to make sure this doesn’t happen again.

Also, the argument over his contract has nothing to do with total, it has to do with front-end or back-end. He wants his money now just-in-case, NOLA wants it later just-in-case.

By: conormacleod

conormacleod — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 00:15:08 +0000

The Saints are retaliating against Brees by NOT automatically giving him the highest contract in the history of the NFL?! Ok then…

By: mneal69

mneal69 — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:54:23 +0000

God am I tired about hearing about Brees…He should change his name to Massengill because this guy is a giant douche.

By: jakek2

jakek2 — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:49:00 +0000

I can’t wait until some NFL employee comes out of the woodwork and says, “I heard Goodell say that he is going to take all of his labor deal frustrations out on the Saints once this deal is done”. Punitive damages baby. Get rid of this no good, game ruining dictator once and for all!

By: corvusrex96

corvusrex96 — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:44:26 +0000

It’s not like the Saints haven’t offered Brees a fair deal. Could he get a bit more ? perhaps but he could sign the 5 yr @ $19 million/yr and this whole thing would be over.

What the Saints are not doing , rightly in my opinion, is allowing Drew Brees to leverage the team’s scandal (Payton, Loomis, Vilma, et al) to his advantage.

Why overpay him b/c other people are in trouble ?

By: jason1980

jason1980 — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:38:25 +0000

And we Saints fans are so tired of the same posters posting on every single Saints article. We know that you guys are envious of the powerhouse Saints, but C’mon man!! How does that happen, the same folks posting article after article as if Saints fans care what you think. The Saints will do their talking on the field, in spite of anything that Roger Goddell or the league office does. See ya during the regular season haters.

By: acetw

acetw — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:35:54 +0000

If either faces any retaliation at all, it will come from the league. Since the league went out of their way to threaten the coaches into silence I see no reason they won’t follow the same path with the players.
The nfl is as corrupt a corporation as exists today, there is nothing I wouldn’t put past them.

By: jimr10

jimr10 — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:33:10 +0000

billinlouisiana says:
Jun 27, 2012 6:06 PM
Another sign that the NFLPA is doing anything it can think of to get out of the CBA they agreed to and now realize they got taken to the cleaners last year
I agree 100%…. they are not going to let it go until there is no restricted free agency and draft.. that was their goal last year and it remains that way today..

By: jamiebuf12

jamiebuf12 — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:27:54 +0000

soooo tired of drew brees.he is one of the guys thats sues the league during the lockout and dosn’t even show up for court………the saints have the right to franchise him and they did.he gets paid ,what top 5 qb money and he is “upset”???

drew brees is a tool.when you want more than 20 million a year it has to be crazy scary as a team,no matter how good the player is…..brees could take one nasty hit and the saints would be paying him crazy money not to play………