Comments on: Cliff Avril: Don’t judge the Lions by a few arrested players

By: capitaloffense

capitaloffense — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:03:00 +0000

Judging a group of people based on the actions of a few…I’m sure they have a name for that somewhere…

By: clashpoint

clashpoint — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 06:50:58 +0000

Which celebrity was it that said any publicity is good publicity? If thats true, the lions should be super bowl favorites in vegas.

By: rextraordinaire

rextraordinaire — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 03:49:17 +0000

Its Detroit guys! You have to drive drunk there because you have a 100% chance of getting shot if you take the city bus!

By: torrigjp

torrigjp — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 03:13:31 +0000

millerhour says:
Jun 27, 2012 8:06 PM
Their team is dirty! They also get arrested! This isn’t about a couple guys, Stafford threw moore down by his helmet last year after a pick, and Moore got ejected!
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OMG how despicable, a quarterback shoved a defensive player?! Where are my tampons? I bet he stole them!

By: metalhead65

metalhead65 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 02:53:08 +0000

so even though the young guys keep screwing up you should still support them? admit it your support has nothing to do with them as people but only how good a player they are. if it was a 3rd string player you and the team would kick them to the curb so fast they would not know what happened to them. how about showing some support by getting them the help they need or telling them not to appeal the penalty they will be getting. even if they do not learn anything they need to know there are consequences for their screw ups.

By: beerbudsnbevo

beerbudsnbevo — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 02:24:30 +0000

Whats wrong haters?

No comparisons to the Cowboys of the 90′s?

I expected more out of you guys….

By: veence69

veence69 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 02:17:55 +0000

Cliff Avril: Don’t judge the Lions by a few arrested players, Judge the Lions by ALL arrested players..

By: rmc1995

rmc1995 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:58:18 +0000

All of the arrests have taken place during the offseason. Trying to blame anyone but the individual is silly. These arrests are a result of youthful stupidity with too much money and free time (time fought for in tbe cba) not an organization’s lack structure. David Diehl got arrested at 31 years old and folks were strangely forgiving because he’d never been a problem. The Giants had seven arrests with 7 different players in 2008, 4 while still in season! Yet Coughlin is still considered a disciplinarian and the Football Giants a class organization. So Avril is correct. The Lions being a bunch of knuckle heads is a perception based on media and fans trying to make the free time of players relavent to what happens on the field.

By: mtrhead269

mtrhead269 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:50:21 +0000

Whatever you say Cliff.

BTW 7.5% of the Lions roster has been arrested this offseason.

And the Lions still suck @0 years without a playoff win and counting .

The Lons Really Suck.

By: mjkelly77

mjkelly77 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:31:46 +0000

dannythebisforbeast says:Jun 27, 2012 6:58 PM

A few is 3. 6 is a gaggle of goofs
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Uhhh, try 4 players.

By: orthodoxdj

orthodoxdj — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:25:23 +0000

Hats off to the Lions for finally turning their franchise around. The NFL is better when there is parity spread out over the years.

Baseball sucks.

By: mrlaloosh

mrlaloosh — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:19:10 +0000

“IMPORTED FROM DETROIT”. Rap sheets.

By: dryzzt23

dryzzt23 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:15:38 +0000

The league need to be more stricter on arrests and repeated arrests. Its usually always the same thing, DUI, drug or weapon possession and assault. Teams need to have 0 tolerance in players contract, its a shame that every off season players getting in trouble, not taking their jobs seriously. If I had the authority to punish players it’ll be like this:

1st arrest: 4 games suspended without pay
2nd arrest: 1 year suspension without pay
3rd arrest: kicked out the league for life

That’s right, 3 strikes and you’re out, that’ll get their attention to clean their acts up
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Great idea Broncos but you seem to forget, these guys have UNION protection, and as long as they have that they can pretty much get away with anything b/c a unions sole purpose is to protect the screw ups from getting fired b/c less players = less union dues = less power for union bosses.

By: dryzzt23

dryzzt23 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:13:27 +0000

Where is the “peer pressure” from the rest of the team?
Why don’t they have a players only meeting and tell guys not to do stupid stuff?

By: broncosnative

broncosnative — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 00:57:52 +0000

1st arrest: 4 games suspended without pay
2nd arrest: 1 year suspension without pay
3rd arrest: kicked out the league for life

That’s right, 3 strikes and you’re out, that’ll get their attention to clean their acts up.

By: staffordsyear

staffordsyear — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 00:39:55 +0000

Not relevent? You must be pretty young considering the lions made the playoffs 6 times in the 90s whitch included an nfc championship game.

By: kennyrogerschicken

kennyrogerschicken — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 00:34:37 +0000

greglloydrules says:
Jun 27, 2012 7:30 PM
hey804 says: Jun 27, 2012 6:54 PM

But isn’t that how we judge the Saints, Bengals and Steelers?

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The Steelers??? You do know they’ve had less arrests than most of the teams in league since 2008 right. Actually the Angels (Packers) have had more arrests than any other team in the league other than the Lions since then.

You only talk about the Steelers cause you’re a hater. But I don’t blame you, greatness come with jealousy.

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Sour grapes from the Steelers loss to the Pack in the Super Bowl? Feel free to back up the arrest claims with some stats, otherwise you’re just another Steelers idiot.

By: abninf

abninf — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 00:15:41 +0000

For every one arrested, common sense dictates there are many more who haven’t been caught yet. Lions have issues.

By: ecruz0884

ecruz0884 — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 00:14:55 +0000

Excuse me, let me be the first to apologize to all the model citizens in here a.k.a haters. Get it over it, it was dui and possessions of weed. Really, like most of us don’t drink or have never smoked before. They just made a bad call and got caught. Ignorant ads people and over the top media.

By: millerhour

millerhour — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 00:06:04 +0000

Their team is dirty! They also get arrested! This isn’t about a couple guys, Stafford threw moore down by his helmet last year after a pick, and Moore got ejected!

By: 805_9er

805_9er — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 00:04:42 +0000

No need to judge the Lions. They haven’t been relevant in my life time and I don’t see that changing…

By: commandercornpone

commandercornpone — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:53:33 +0000

lets judge by playoff wins.

By: pleasantsurpriselefty

pleasantsurpriselefty — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:45:39 +0000

Why would anyone come to that conclusion? Like the Tuna says: “You are what your record says you are.” Nice try though.

By: 808raiderinparadise

808raiderinparadise — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:42:00 +0000

flipper9494 says:
Jun 27, 2012 7:24 PM
They should make a “Lemon Law” for the teams. They put up with a lot of this stuff because they don’t have many options when key players go afoul of the law. If teams have so many instances, fines, etc. where they know they have a “lemon” on their hands, the league should give them some remedies so they can cut the loss and not be penalized for losing someone high on the depth chart. Maybe adding a draft choice, a break in cap for one year, etc.

Also, if these trouble players that are getting busted two, three times know they can lose it all when the team triggers the Lemon Law, they may straighten up sooner than later.

Right now there are no teeth for either the NFL or the teams to really deal with this in any meaningful way.

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Right, so if you hire the wrong candidate for any job in he real-world you should be compensated for it? BS

Problem is the contracts, if language was in the teams contratc with agent/player about 0 tolerance then players could owe back $ and lose job.

Thing is, in reality teams/owners know how many of these players live bad lifestyles in the off-season/free time and just hope they can keep there talent long enough to help them win big.

By: covercorner

covercorner — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:37:52 +0000

NFL players need round the clock babysitters.

By: smstonerock

smstonerock — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:35:57 +0000

steelerhypocrite says:

“Instead, judge the Lions by the city they represent…only hundreds of murders per week.”

Actually, the Lions represent the 3.7 million great people in the metropolitan area who live outside the borders of the city and who are ashamed and saddened by the condition of the city and don’t live in it for that reason.

By: greglloydrules

greglloydrules — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:30:06 +0000

hey804 says: Jun 27, 2012 6:54 PM

But isn’t that how we judge the Saints, Bengals and Steelers?

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You only talk about the Steelers cause you’re a hater. But I don’t blame you, greatness come with jealousy.

By: nflfollower

nflfollower — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:28:56 +0000

I’m waiting for the next arrest. I am shocked it has taken this long since berry…. Being a lions fan however, I am thankful they are winning. I would rather cheer for a bunch of hooligans than some nice guys who go 0-16.

By: thegenoatkinsdiet

thegenoatkinsdiet — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:25:03 +0000

Oh, but they can. And they will. Trust me.

By: flipper9494

flipper9494 — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:24:26 +0000

They should make a “Lemon Law” for the teams. They put up with a lot of this stuff because they don’t have many options when key players go afoul of the law. If teams have so many instances, fines, etc. where they know they have a “lemon” on their hands, the league should give them some remedies so they can cut the loss and not be penalized for losing someone high on the depth chart. Maybe adding a draft choice, a break in cap for one year, etc.

Also, if these trouble players that are getting busted two, three times know they can lose it all when the team triggers the Lemon Law, they may straighten up sooner than later.

Right now there are no teeth for either the NFL or the teams to really deal with this in any meaningful way.