bclemms says:Jun 29, 2012 10:28 AM

Ok, I’ll admit. I was first in line with my pitchfork and flame ready to burn the Saints at the stake when the bounty stuff broke. I’ll also be the first to admit that I thought the Saints’ fanbase was showing new levels of insanity to deny all the evidence the NFL has brought to the table but the doubt the NFL has continued to cast over and over for months now has me thinking the NFL is the one that should be burning.

If the NFL’s case is so solid then why have they misrepresented and flat out lied about every single piece of so called “evidence” to date? Why is it each time the players claim something they end up being proven correct and the NFL ends up with egg plastered on their face? The powerpoint “evidence” release looked like something a 3rd grader would put together with enough garbage fill to reach his 1000 word minimum.

“what’s the reason the NFL won’t release the evidence?”

To protect the innocent from retribution.

You think they’re protecting the innocent? Try being a Saints’ fan going to an away game this year, and tell me the innocent are being protected by this.

If the NFL’s case is so solid then why have they misrepresented and flat out lied about every single piece of so called “evidence” to date? Why is it each time the players claim something they end up being proven correct and the NFL ends up with egg plastered on their face? The powerpoint “evidence” release looked like something a 3rd grader would put together with enough garbage fill to reach his 1000 word minimum.

Since this bounty story broke it has been one contradiction, misleading information, one-sided goof’s, lazy investigations, flat out lies and manipulation by the league after another. I’m actually kind of embarrased by some of the comments I’ve made and the realization it took this long to see how off Goodell is on this rampage to prove he is worried about player safety.

Saints fans, I feel bad for you guys. These are, by all accounts, really good people Goodell is throwing under the bus to push his agenda.

I hope the attorneys in the concussion suit start using this “bounty evidence” against the league. I mean, Vilma had 64 “kill the head” shots in 2009 but the league didn’t penalize him once during the game, didn’t fine him once and didn’t suspend him once for these “violent” hits. How can they let a player get away with 64 helmet to helmet blows without one flag? I guess “kill the head” could have a different meaning but if the NFL claims it doesn’t then who is to argue with them?

I would say the fact that SOMEBODY said “give me my money” as they were discussing Favre’s injury and potentially leaving the game is pretty solid evidence there was a bounty. It may not have been Hargrove, but someone definately said it.

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But what is the difference between that and Brian Cushing saying “stacks for sacks”? (with hand motions like raining dollar bills)

… The other damning thing is that it took Hargrove four months to deny that it was his voice.
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Uh, Hargrove was suspended May 2, the video of the sideline chatter was just released a few days ago. How is that four months? The whole point of this outrage is that the league NEVER showed their evidence to the players accused of these actions before the suspensions were handed down.

“what’s the reason the NFL won’t release the evidence?”

To protect the innocent from retribution.

If the names of the confidential informants were released, they’d need to be put in a witness protection program to protect them from the Saints team and their fans.

If the Saints players and management had stopped the bounty program in 2010 – there would not have been the need for the heavy penalties that have now been rightfully accessed.

The Saints players and management dug there own hole.

This is unreal, SOMEBODY on the Saints roster said it.

SMH.
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Well, then, by all means let’s suspend the wrong guy.

Yes, this IS unreal.

Up until Hargrove released his statement saying that the NFL had misrepresented what his declaration said the voice on the tape was “unidentified”. So why would he have had to deny it was his?

That being said, I’m sick of the BS. Make a ruling, tell the Saints to shut up and deal with it and lets move on already.

Somebody was doing all that hitting. Somebody was trying to knock opponents out of the game. It sure as hell wasn’t the coaches themselves.

Do I care that there was a bounty program in the first place? Not really. Football is a violent sport and people are going to get hit, get hit hard, and get hurt. To a defender, a bounty is nothing more than a performance incentive.

But this is just another case of lawyers getting in the way. They’re guilty. We all know they’re guilty. Why do we need to spend three years poring over evidence looking for loopholes and ‘maybe’s?

You mean they’re NOT going to give us that?

Shocking!

Apparently the Union wants us to believe no one said “Bobby, give me my money!”

For those bozos saying well someone said it, therefore there is a bounty. I believe the NFPA is saying if all you got on Hargrove is the voice and now we can prove it wasn’t him, he should not be suspended. And I agree.

The NFL should be working with the NFPA to determine what happened and then God-dell can make his ruling. This seems more like the NFL came to a conclusion and has massaged the data to fit their conclusion. I am not saying there was no “bounty.” But I do believe the extent of the bounty is nowhere near what the NFL originally portrayed. The only evidence shown refers to the 2009 Vikings game and a pep talk in the 2011 49er game. BTW, if this so called Bounty program is so bad (as the NFL is portraying it), why was the NFL willing to let the Saints slide for two more years. Why did they not come down hard on them before the start of the 201o season. That’s ;ike a cop letting you go for speeding and then two years later when he catchesyou again, he gives you two tickets, one showing the violation in 2009.

Coached suspensions should be upheld and the players should be given a reduction in half or rescinded.

Let’s let the Supreme Court decide! They do such a wonderful job.