Weeden wants full guarantee on four-year deal

AP

Brandon Weeden apparently wants a quarterback premium.  Or, perhaps more accurately, an old quarterback premium.

Weeden, the 28-year-old signal-caller taken by the Browns with the 22nd pick in the 2012 draft, hopes to land a fully-guaranteed four-year deal, according to Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer.  The problem is that the full four-year guarantees ended this year with the 16th overall pick.

Based on two years of rookie classes under the new CBA, Weeden’s slot calls for a three-year guarantee plus a large chunk of the fourth-year compensaton due as a roster bonus in March, which would force the team to cut the player early enough in the offseason to give him a shot at finding a new home with ample time to get up to speed and compete for a spot on the depth chart.

“It’ll get done,” Weeden said Friday, per Cabot.  “We’re working.  It takes two sides, though.”

Weeden’s desire to emerge with a full four-year guarantee could be tied to the team’s sudden ambivalence toward quarterback Colt McCoy, a third-rounder in 2010 who could end up after only two seasons being cut, if he isn’t traded.  If Weeden fails to show within three years that he can play at a high level, the team likely wouldn’t hesitate to get rid of him — especially if his fourth-year pay isn’t fully guaranteed.

Then there’s the reality that, if Weeden can’t get it done, the current coaching staff and front office possibly will be gone, making it even more likely that the next coach would want a different quarterback.

While quarterbacks taken in round one often seek more than their slot otherwise dictates, the truth as to Weeden could be that, unlikely first-round picks who play other positions, he actually needs the protection that comes with having a full four-year guarantee.

35 responses to “Weeden wants full guarantee on four-year deal

  1. He should just take the 3 guaranteed years. If he ends up being as good as he thinks he’ll be, he’s in a position to get paid big-time one year earlier.

  2. The boy’s got sand, I have to admit. But if anyone thinks he was picked for any other reason than Colt McCoy has a glass jaw, that’s naive. I think what we have here is the second coming of Chris Weinke.

  3. “Weeden’s slot calls for a three-year guarantee plus a large chunk of the fourth-year compensaton due as a roster bonus in March”

    Take the 3 years guaranteed and earn a 2nd contract that has a sizable amount of guaranteed money.

    From there live within your means and manage your money well and you will be fine. Its not all that complicated.

  4. “If Weeden fails to show within three years that he can play at a high level, the team likely wouldn’t hesitate to get rid of him — especially if his fourth-year pay isn’t fully guaranteed.”

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    Within three years? He’ll be behind Matt Barkley or Landry Jones on the depthchart in 2013.

  5. He’s almost 30 and hasn’t earned much yet, plus he was drafted by the NFL’s blackhole, so you can’t really blame the guy.

  6. “Tarkus says: He’ll be old enough to retire at the end of this contract, so he better get what he can.”

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    He’ll be cut way before his contract expires.

    The weaver in the web that he made….

  7. I thought the rookie wage scale was going to end hold outs? We’re a long way from a hold out, but this has all the key features of a hold out. The player asking for something that is clearly outside of his draft slot and the team standing pat on it. I guess we’ll see who blinks first.

  8. Not saying the Browns aren’t improving but they’re in a very hard division. Baltimore and Pittsburg are almost guaranteed a playoff spot every year and Cincy seems to keep getting better too.

    I think the best Cleveland can hope for is to land the #1 pick, draft Matt Barkley, and get a qualified head coach….Brian Billick maybe? He’s won a Super Bowl and I’m sure he’d like to get back at Baltimore for firing him after one bad season.

    Otherwise Cleveland will remain where it has been for years….last in the AFC North.

  9. I think Weeden is one of the two QBs taken in the first round that will have a decent pro career. The other one is with the Redskins. Age? It means nothing and if anything is a plus. Roger Staubach was the same age when he started his pro career and he didn’t do too bad. Weeden is a strong kid, has a great arm and is pretty accurate. He’s also a good leader. Blackmon was his main target in college and weeden had a lot to do with Blackmon’s success.

  10. Weeden will succeed in Cleveland. He is not a Cam Newton or Brett Favre type, he is more like Tom Brady, and I think he’ll prove the doubters wrong. Yes, he is older, but he should still have a good 7-8 year career. The Browns will be satisfied with their first round pick, hopefully their other first rounder does as well.

  11. Some of these comments are misinformed…

    He can’t just take the 3 year deal and play for a new one after those 3 years are up…IF he plays above or at the level of the contract, the Browns can make him play on that 4th year rookie contract still..What they can also do, if injury occurs, void that last year.

    Admittedly at his age, injury is a concern for both parties…however, at his age, missing one day of training camp would hurt the TEAM more than the prospect of a guaranteed $1.5M 4th year of a throw away contract. Teams pee more than that away each year in disposed of contracts.

    The Browns are on the clock here. I think they blink first, because they are in need of him to start opening weekend against the Eagles. He needs every day of practice to prepare for that.

  12. Blackmon was his main target in college and weeden had a lot to do with Blackmon’s success

    couldnt we argue it is the other way around?

  13. He what! I can’t believe he’s got the stones to be throwing that out there. He’d better be careful because if the Brownies refuse to sign him and he has to go back into the draft next year he’ll be a year older and no one will touch him with that attitude.

    This sounds like an agent inspired idea. Get a new one with his head out of his you-know-what.

  14. EJ says: Jun 30, 2012 8:31 AM

    Weeden will succeed in Cleveland. He is not a Cam Newton or Brett Favre type, he is more like Tom Brady, and I think he’ll prove the doubters wrong. Yes, he is older, but he should still have a good 7-8 year career. The Browns will be satisfied with their first round pick, hopefully their other first rounder does as well.

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    Are you insane? Comparing this guy to Tom Brady is one of the biggest insults I have ever seen, and I am not even a Patriots fan.

    Brady is a once in a generation player, and to think Weeden is going to be even a fraction of what Brady has been is an insult to the game of football.

  15. irishdawg42 says:
    Jun 30, 2012 9:07 AM
    Some of these comments are misinformed…

    He can’t just take the 3 year deal and play for a new one after those 3 years are up…IF he plays above or at the level of the contract, the Browns can make him play on that 4th year rookie contract still..What they can also do, if injury occurs, void that last year.
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    Only a very stupid team would refuse to negotiate a long term deal after year 3 if Weeden is great.

    And what makes more sense? A Weeden hold out going into the final year of his contract after he has had 2-3 really good to great years, or to hold out now when he has proven nothing?

    No matter how you spin it, this sounds like Weeden is looking for Failure Insurance. He should be confident that if he is successful, the Browns will tear up the last year of that contract, or that he will be so good that he could hold out at that point and force them to.

  16. Blackmon was his main target in college and weeden had a lot to do with Blackmon’s success

    couldnt we argue it is the other way around?

    Yes you could, so what’s the point. He put the ball on time and on target. Blackmon did a great job of playing his position.

  17. Make the Browns relevant and you can have all the $$$ Randy Lerner can throw you. Until then, turn and give the ball to Trent Richardson.

  18. @EJ Like Tom Brady? Are you or have you ever been in a mental institution ? This guy is a temporary piece of garbage. The Browns screwed up when they made it clear they were letting MCoy go. Breeder NOW “thinks” he is Tom Brady. What wasted draft choice. TR was smart, he could have been set and ready to go with Barkley. Idiot F.O. So typical Browns since Paul Brown left. LOSERS

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