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Weeden wants full guarantee on four-year deal

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Brandon Weeden apparently wants a quarterback premium.  Or, perhaps more accurately, an old quarterback premium.

Weeden, the 28-year-old signal-caller taken by the Browns with the 22nd pick in the 2012 draft, hopes to land a fully-guaranteed four-year deal, according to Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer.  The problem is that the full four-year guarantees ended this year with the 16th overall pick.

Based on two years of rookie classes under the new CBA, Weeden’s slot calls for a three-year guarantee plus a large chunk of the fourth-year compensaton due as a roster bonus in March, which would force the team to cut the player early enough in the offseason to give him a shot at finding a new home with ample time to get up to speed and compete for a spot on the depth chart.

“It’ll get done,” Weeden said Friday, per Cabot.  “We’re working.  It takes two sides, though.”

Weeden’s desire to emerge with a full four-year guarantee could be tied to the team’s sudden ambivalence toward quarterback Colt McCoy, a third-rounder in 2010 who could end up after only two seasons being cut, if he isn’t traded.  If Weeden fails to show within three years that he can play at a high level, the team likely wouldn’t hesitate to get rid of him — especially if his fourth-year pay isn’t fully guaranteed.

Then there’s the reality that, if Weeden can’t get it done, the current coaching staff and front office possibly will be gone, making it even more likely that the next coach would want a different quarterback.

While quarterbacks taken in round one often seek more than their slot otherwise dictates, the truth as to Weeden could be that, unlikely first-round picks who play other positions, he actually needs the protection that comes with having a full four-year guarantee.

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35 Responses to “Weeden wants full guarantee on four-year deal”
  1. Tarkus says: Jun 29, 2012 11:00 PM

    He’ll be old enough to retire at the end of this contract, so he better get what he can.

  2. Gordon says: Jun 29, 2012 11:15 PM

    He should just take the 3 guaranteed years. If he ends up being as good as he thinks he’ll be, he’s in a position to get paid big-time one year earlier.

  3. astrosfan75956 says: Jun 29, 2012 11:17 PM

    Colt was decent considering the pieces around him.

  4. mrcogburn says: Jun 29, 2012 11:18 PM

    The boy’s got sand, I have to admit. But if anyone thinks he was picked for any other reason than Colt McCoy has a glass jaw, that’s naive. I think what we have here is the second coming of Chris Weinke.

  5. icdogg says: Jun 29, 2012 11:21 PM

    They could save time and just dump him now…

  6. titogetmesometissue says: Jun 29, 2012 11:22 PM

    Weeden is going to be terrible.

  7. TylerHills says: Jun 29, 2012 11:25 PM

    “Weeden’s slot calls for a three-year guarantee plus a large chunk of the fourth-year compensaton due as a roster bonus in March”

    Take the 3 years guaranteed and earn a 2nd contract that has a sizable amount of guaranteed money.

    From there live within your means and manage your money well and you will be fine. Its not all that complicated.

  8. lionsgofrompitytofearin3years says: Jun 29, 2012 11:31 PM

    Bust

  9. sdiegosteel says: Jun 29, 2012 11:35 PM

    “If Weeden fails to show within three years that he can play at a high level, the team likely wouldn’t hesitate to get rid of him — especially if his fourth-year pay isn’t fully guaranteed.”

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    Within three years? He’ll be behind Matt Barkley or Landry Jones on the depthchart in 2013.

  10. cbass59 says: Jun 29, 2012 11:43 PM

    He’s almost 30 and hasn’t earned much yet, plus he was drafted by the NFL’s blackhole, so you can’t really blame the guy.

  11. 8willbegreat says: Jun 29, 2012 11:55 PM

    Hilarious

  12. thegreatgabbert says: Jun 30, 2012 12:02 AM

    Basically a normal entry level contract, except the clause for “full dental coverage” has been altered to read “full denture coverage”.

  13. thegreatgabbert says: Jun 30, 2012 12:14 AM

    How old is Brandon Weeden?

    Brandon Weeden is so old he wears a headband when he works out.

  14. thegreatgabbert says: Jun 30, 2012 12:17 AM

    Brandon Weeden is so old he has a card around his neck with all of his personal and medical information on it in case he wanders away from the facility.

  15. thegreatgabbert says: Jun 30, 2012 12:22 AM

    Weeden is so old he has aready been invited to join several concussion lawsuit groups.

  16. pacodawg says: Jun 30, 2012 12:25 AM

    He will be the next Dan Marino

  17. rexgrossman8 says: Jun 30, 2012 12:33 AM

    get as much money as you can. they will kick you to the curb when they’re finished.

  18. mactimo says: Jun 30, 2012 12:39 AM

    He remembers a time when a deal only required a handshake and a mans word

  19. lostsok says: Jun 30, 2012 1:37 AM

    “Tarkus says: He’ll be old enough to retire at the end of this contract, so he better get what he can.”

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    He’ll be cut way before his contract expires.

    The weaver in the web that he made….

  20. linvillegorge says: Jun 30, 2012 1:39 AM

    I thought the rookie wage scale was going to end hold outs? We’re a long way from a hold out, but this has all the key features of a hold out. The player asking for something that is clearly outside of his draft slot and the team standing pat on it. I guess we’ll see who blinks first.

  21. brenenostler says: Jun 30, 2012 1:48 AM

    Not saying the Browns aren’t improving but they’re in a very hard division. Baltimore and Pittsburg are almost guaranteed a playoff spot every year and Cincy seems to keep getting better too.

    I think the best Cleveland can hope for is to land the #1 pick, draft Matt Barkley, and get a qualified head coach….Brian Billick maybe? He’s won a Super Bowl and I’m sure he’d like to get back at Baltimore for firing him after one bad season.

    Otherwise Cleveland will remain where it has been for years….last in the AFC North.

  22. urbusted2 says: Jun 30, 2012 1:59 AM

    I think Weeden is one of the two QBs taken in the first round that will have a decent pro career. The other one is with the Redskins. Age? It means nothing and if anything is a plus. Roger Staubach was the same age when he started his pro career and he didn’t do too bad. Weeden is a strong kid, has a great arm and is pretty accurate. He’s also a good leader. Blackmon was his main target in college and weeden had a lot to do with Blackmon’s success.

  23. rukkus1 says: Jun 30, 2012 2:10 AM

    If hes gonna make demands he should just asked to be traded to a team that doesnt change qbs every 2 years

  24. rgiddens says: Jun 30, 2012 2:29 AM

    LOL he is lucky he was even a 1st rd draft pick…

  25. jfaoyx says: Jun 30, 2012 3:10 AM

    ^This is the only comment needed. And mine.

  26. dino2997 says: Jun 30, 2012 4:34 AM

    Weeden is acting like a player that does not believes in his own abilities.

  27. EJ says: Jun 30, 2012 8:31 AM

    Weeden will succeed in Cleveland. He is not a Cam Newton or Brett Favre type, he is more like Tom Brady, and I think he’ll prove the doubters wrong. Yes, he is older, but he should still have a good 7-8 year career. The Browns will be satisfied with their first round pick, hopefully their other first rounder does as well.

  28. irishdawg42 says: Jun 30, 2012 9:07 AM

    Some of these comments are misinformed…

    He can’t just take the 3 year deal and play for a new one after those 3 years are up…IF he plays above or at the level of the contract, the Browns can make him play on that 4th year rookie contract still..What they can also do, if injury occurs, void that last year.

    Admittedly at his age, injury is a concern for both parties…however, at his age, missing one day of training camp would hurt the TEAM more than the prospect of a guaranteed $1.5M 4th year of a throw away contract. Teams pee more than that away each year in disposed of contracts.

    The Browns are on the clock here. I think they blink first, because they are in need of him to start opening weekend against the Eagles. He needs every day of practice to prepare for that.

  29. billsfan1 says: Jun 30, 2012 9:13 AM

    Blackmon was his main target in college and weeden had a lot to do with Blackmon’s success

    couldnt we argue it is the other way around?

  30. pleasantsurpriselefty says: Jun 30, 2012 9:41 AM

    He what! I can’t believe he’s got the stones to be throwing that out there. He’d better be careful because if the Brownies refuse to sign him and he has to go back into the draft next year he’ll be a year older and no one will touch him with that attitude.

    This sounds like an agent inspired idea. Get a new one with his head out of his you-know-what.

  31. nickster31 says: Jun 30, 2012 10:33 AM

    EJ says: Jun 30, 2012 8:31 AM

    Weeden will succeed in Cleveland. He is not a Cam Newton or Brett Favre type, he is more like Tom Brady, and I think he’ll prove the doubters wrong. Yes, he is older, but he should still have a good 7-8 year career. The Browns will be satisfied with their first round pick, hopefully their other first rounder does as well.

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    Are you insane? Comparing this guy to Tom Brady is one of the biggest insults I have ever seen, and I am not even a Patriots fan.

    Brady is a once in a generation player, and to think Weeden is going to be even a fraction of what Brady has been is an insult to the game of football.

  32. realitypolice says: Jun 30, 2012 11:07 AM

    irishdawg42 says:
    Jun 30, 2012 9:07 AM
    Some of these comments are misinformed…

    He can’t just take the 3 year deal and play for a new one after those 3 years are up…IF he plays above or at the level of the contract, the Browns can make him play on that 4th year rookie contract still..What they can also do, if injury occurs, void that last year.
    ===================

    Only a very stupid team would refuse to negotiate a long term deal after year 3 if Weeden is great.

    And what makes more sense? A Weeden hold out going into the final year of his contract after he has had 2-3 really good to great years, or to hold out now when he has proven nothing?

    No matter how you spin it, this sounds like Weeden is looking for Failure Insurance. He should be confident that if he is successful, the Browns will tear up the last year of that contract, or that he will be so good that he could hold out at that point and force them to.

  33. urbusted2 says: Jun 30, 2012 2:04 PM

    Blackmon was his main target in college and weeden had a lot to do with Blackmon’s success

    couldnt we argue it is the other way around?

    Yes you could, so what’s the point. He put the ball on time and on target. Blackmon did a great job of playing his position.

  34. killerron says: Jun 30, 2012 2:12 PM

    Make the Browns relevant and you can have all the $$$ Randy Lerner can throw you. Until then, turn and give the ball to Trent Richardson.

  35. kodakinvegas says: Jun 30, 2012 4:43 PM

    @EJ Like Tom Brady? Are you or have you ever been in a mental institution ? This guy is a temporary piece of garbage. The Browns screwed up when they made it clear they were letting MCoy go. Breeder NOW “thinks” he is Tom Brady. What wasted draft choice. TR was smart, he could have been set and ready to go with Barkley. Idiot F.O. So typical Browns since Paul Brown left. LOSERS

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