Skip to content

Chargers say memo doesn’t move team closer to L.A.

BCS National Championship - Alabama v Texas Getty Images

Although the Chargers are the only team that could move to L.A. in 2013, the Chargers say that the memo hinting at the possible move of a team to L.A. in 2013 doesn’t move them any closer to, um, moving.

Mark Fabiani, the team’s special counsel on stadium issues, told NBC 7 in San Diego that the memo doesn’t “move the sticks” any closer to the Chargers getting a new stadium in Los Angeles.

“We saw it simply as a re-affirmation of things that the Commissioner and the league were saying for a long time,”  Fabiani said.

He then summarized the most important points.

“You can’t move to L.A. without a permanent facility,” Fabiani said.  “[I]f you move, you’d better expect there to be a second team moving there at some point in the near future after you move.  And, the NFL is clearly in charge of the L.A. market — and anybody that thinks otherwise should read this memo.”

On the first point, Fabiani isn’t entirely accurate.  The memo from Commissioner Roger Goodell to all 32 teams explains that a team can negotiate a deal with an alternative site like the Coliseum or Rose Bowl that would host games until the permanent facility is built.  Thus, the Chargers could move in 2013, play at the Rose Bowl until the permanent venue has been built, and stay put.

“No memo from the NFL can change the basic fact that until there’s a stadium that’s finished and ready to go,” Fabiani said,  “and until there’s a team that wants to play in it, nothing’s going to happen in L.A.”

Again, that’s not what the memo says.  A team can move to Los Angeles and play elsewhere temporarily.

Fabiani apparently missed that part of the memo.  Or maybe he’s deliberately misrepresenting it so that the Chargers can have some cover as they position themselves to move, especially in light of an upcoming mayoral election in which both candidates have said they oppose the use of public funding for a football stadium.

So while the memo may not move the Chargers any closer to Los Angeles, it definitely doesn’t move them any farther away.

Permalink 33 Comments Feed for comments Latest Stories in: Jacksonville Jaguars, Oakland Raiders, Rumor Mill, San Diego Chargers, St. Louis Rams, Top Stories
33 Responses to “Chargers say memo doesn’t move team closer to L.A.”
  1. mdd913 says: Jul 2, 2012 9:34 PM

    Funny how this “memo” just so happened to get leaked to the public. Matter of fact, a lot of NFL documents just happen to get leaked to the public lately.

    Surely Goodell wouldn’t be trying to manipulate the public through the media….would he?

  2. cardmagnet says: Jul 2, 2012 9:36 PM

    Will they copy a page from the MLB’s Angels and become the Los Angeles Chargers of San Diego? Lol

  3. upperdecker19 says: Jul 2, 2012 10:08 PM

    Rose Bowl tailgating would be sweet.

  4. despinosa8 says: Jul 2, 2012 10:15 PM

    The Raiders belong in LA!

  5. tebowsafraud says: Jul 2, 2012 10:16 PM

    The Chargers have always been the team most likely to move to LA but there are so many many variables.

    There is no way the Spanos clan can blackmail San Diego or the State of California the way the Wilfs did with their stadium scam. Unless they build it themselves (perish the thought!) there is no new stadium going up in Chargerland.

    And depending on whether the Rams can pull off the same con job in St Louis as was done in Minnesota, it may be THEM heading back west.

    The wild card is Phil Anschutz. We know he wants a piece (at a sweetheart price) of any team that plays at his proposed downtown stadium. Kronke will never do that. If the Chargers end up in LA it will most likely be with a new owner.

    It will be fun watching it all play out.

  6. Robert says: Jul 2, 2012 10:21 PM

    Chargers are being seduced. San Diego would be foolish to leave.

    Los Angeles is Raider territory. Think there’s a ton of Raider fans at Charger home games?

    There will be twice as many if they Chargers move to Los Angeles.

    In fact, the Raiders would gain an extra home game with a Charger move to L.A.

    Stay home Chargers, let the Rams or Raiders move back to L.A.

  7. tomsd1 says: Jul 2, 2012 10:26 PM

    Good reporting Mike. Fable-ini is just a smoke screen – behind obfuscation. :)

  8. tomsd1 says: Jul 2, 2012 10:27 PM

    And the naivety of SD fans never fails to impress moi.

  9. whodatgirl1 says: Jul 2, 2012 10:31 PM

    Ginger wanting to move a team to L.A. is all about money.

    I’m sure L.A. would generate more money than San Diego. But, Ginger cannot force a team to move.

  10. rajbais says: Jul 2, 2012 10:38 PM

    We have to give a crap about Fabiani????

    Fabiani to the Chargers (because he’s delusional enough to think that a stadium can be built there) is like what Jeff Kessler is to a union!!!

    Just go ask the NFLPA and NBPA!!!!

  11. jcdurden88 says: Jul 2, 2012 10:43 PM

    Of coursee let’s wait on the rose bowl insteaad (sarcasm),
    The Chargers aren’t moving from an old stadium to another just to wait!! c’mon man, we like our city better!! we ain’t waiting for nobody in LA to tell us what to do…

  12. rajbais says: Jul 2, 2012 10:46 PM

    Chargers, please fire this guy!!!!

    His desire and useless push (although way too seldom in topics of conversation) to get a stadium built in San Diego is truly the biggest hurdle for the Spanos family!!!!

    I’m not kidding!!! The Chargers deserve a better home and better people working for them!!! He, AJ Smith, and Norv Turner are three biggest problems for the Spanos Family!!!

  13. kane337 says: Jul 2, 2012 10:50 PM

    The Chargers need to put some fear into the people of San Diego if they want some assistance in building a new stadium there. Or they can drive up the highway to L.A and watch them play.

  14. folksaredumb says: Jul 2, 2012 10:54 PM

    Yeah, but it doesn’t move them farther away, either.

  15. fafaflunky says: Jul 2, 2012 11:01 PM

    Long island skins fan..oakland raiders san diego chargers l.a rams

  16. jimthebuilder27 says: Jul 2, 2012 11:07 PM

    City of 1.3 million can’t sell out their home games. Meanwhile, Green Bay has 90,000 people and they’ve sold out every game since 1960. Just move the Chargers to LA! That’s what they get for not selling out their home games and for having Norv Turner as head coach!

  17. proudliberal85392 says: Jul 2, 2012 11:23 PM

    This Just In: Al Davis and Elvis spotted looking at condos in LA.

  18. squidlips82 says: Jul 2, 2012 11:32 PM

    Packers draw from the ENTIRE STATE of Wisconsin +… fans are NOT limited to being from the City of Green Bay. You are only fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

  19. tomsd1 says: Jul 2, 2012 11:33 PM

    Three Million – repeat – 3 mill in SD County – within an hour of the Stadium – and they can’t selll out all the home games, mainly because of the lies/double dealing by the LORD OF NO RINGS – AJ Smith — and the owner – De-anna Spanos.

  20. sucram619 says: Jul 3, 2012 12:09 AM

    I live in Wisconsin and green bay may draw from one state but how does that explain the tens of thousands of people waiting for there season tickets! If u ever want a shot at getting season tickets in green bay u better hope ur parents signed u up when u were born!

  21. okldrdrs2111 says: Jul 3, 2012 12:20 AM

    LA doesn’t deserve a football team, even if it is the chargers.

  22. leftcoastred says: Jul 3, 2012 1:03 AM

    I would love for the Chargers to stay, I am a season ticket holder and fanatic fan from the age of 2 but there is NO way anyone can justify spending the amount of public money the Spanos’ are asking. We have pot holes that swallow cars, and teachers being laid off, how can we support paying for a stadium; that we then have to pay 100 dollars just to watch a game in. I would literally be sick if the Chargers left but we have more than just the Chargers here.

  23. chargerdillon says: Jul 3, 2012 1:36 AM

    I was a Chargers season ticket holder until they fired Marty. I havent paid for a ticket since, and I never will again.

    To be honest I don’t care if they move to LA, in fact I might like it better if it meant the games diddn’t get blacked out in San Diego.

    I was willing to drop 3-5k every year on tickets and stadium treats, but because of the single decision of the owner, I’ve decided to take my business elsewhere.

    Bad owners

  24. panamon says: Jul 3, 2012 1:42 AM

    Actually they have sold out EVERY game, they likely won’t have any more blackouts at all with the lower %. There’s also the fact every single blackout (and it was only about 5 the last few years after a long streak without) came against a bad team while the team had a .500 or below record.

    I can’t believe how selectively and biased this is reported. A memo comes out clarifying how a team would do something we know is possible, so Florio writes two articles one promoting PFTL based purely on conjecture. Fabiani goes on the radio and says “NO” to if the Chargers might move next year but that’s not reported, instead his comments which Florio can easily reject by arguing the specifics while ignoring the point (Fabiani clearly is saying the Chargers WILL NOT move to an old stadium) are.

    “On the first point, Fabiani isn’t entirely accurate.”
    - Here’s where the entire post falls off the tracks. His words are carefully chosen him dealing with high profile people but you instead twist the words to take away the meaning he clearly gave. Why you moved away from the actual information to pick nits with grammar seems to mean you don’t like the information, sorry you want a team to move towns just to earn you more money and clicks.

  25. luvsdbolts says: Jul 3, 2012 2:47 AM

    Can we stop talking about why a team should be moving to LA, and start talking about why a city, that has already had at least 3 teams (Chargers, Raiders and Rams) move away, even deserves a team in the first place?!? We love our Chargers here in San Diego!

  26. joetoronto says: Jul 3, 2012 6:35 AM

    The Chargers are completely irrelevant, they can stay or they can go, nobody really cares either way.

  27. sj39 says: Jul 3, 2012 9:06 AM

    I love the way LA fans and anyone who wants a team in LA always refers to it as “the nations second largest market”. Well that has not really done them much good the last 17 years now has it?

  28. raiders757 says: Jul 3, 2012 9:07 AM

    Robert is correct. Moving the Chargers to L.A. would be crossing the border into Raiders country. Their fans and the NFL can deny it all they want, but the Raiders have a huge fan base not only in L.A., but world wide. There Chargers do not.

  29. shackdelrio says: Jul 3, 2012 9:59 AM

    The Jaguars were tagged on this….?

  30. Keyser Söze says: Jul 3, 2012 10:55 AM

    I have to disagree with the LA fans regarding where the Raiders team “belongs”. You had the Raiders from 82-94 and your city leaders could never get a deal done with Al Davis. Your loss…time to move on. No denying that there are thousands of loyal and dedicated S&B fans in LA…but the Raiders belong in the East Bay. And with that, all I can say is “Welcome back” to the LA Chargers.

  31. radrntn says: Jul 3, 2012 1:22 PM

    raiders already play a home game in san diego, i can only imagine what a game in LA would like ? Black Hole South!

  32. rohlo says: Jul 3, 2012 4:38 PM

    tebowsafraud says:
    Jul 2, 2012 10:16 PM
    The Chargers have always been the team most likely to move to LA but there are so many many variables.

    There is no way the Spanos clan can blackmail San Diego or the State of California the way the Wilfs did with their stadium scam. Unless they build it themselves (perish the thought!) there is no new stadium going up in Chargerland.

    And depending on whether the Rams can pull off the same con job in St Louis as was done in Minnesota, it may be THEM heading back west.

    The wild card is Phil Anschutz. We know he wants a piece (at a sweetheart price) of any team that plays at his proposed downtown stadium. Kronke will never do that. If the Chargers end up in LA it will most likely be with a new owner.

    It will be fun watching it all play out.

    ———————

    first off Phil Anschutz and kroenke have a buisness relationship to begin with with all thei soccer satdiums and soccer team things etc…. the spanos family is not selling the chargers.they had some minority shares for sale and took them off the market…the spanos family is passing the chargers ownership down thru the family..why is it so many people wanna make comments and they dont realize the facts??? dont assume the chargers would be in LA under new ownership!! spanos family told AEG over a year ago they arent selling team!! i can tell you anschutz buisness realtionship with kroenke on other fronts makes the rams the frontrunner for farmers field..

    the other intangible is city of industry….roski doesnt want full control of a team and this is where the raiders would come into play..they get a new stadium and m davis wouldnt have to sell majority stake in team as AEG would want for the raiders to play in farmers field.. fact is the raiders are further away from getting a stadium than the chargers are..the raiders are not gonna share a stadium with 49ers ridding piggyback..they want their own and they are a worldwide brand and should have their own stadium..

    as i mentioned in another post that was removed on another thread,there is alot of stuff behind the scenes that play into this whole moving issue..i know people in the spanos family and i first hand know they do not wanna move to LA..there is gonna be a vote on the stadium in san diego and the chargers have put millions into research and getting a vote..just becasue the commish puts out a memo for 2013 doesnt mean a team is gonna jump at it.. the commish has already stated they didnt like the way AEG was trying to control how things would work..

    here is the other thing with all the teams in the moving rumors..it could be a domino effect.. i know first hand one thing the spanos family is trrified of is if they were to move to LA and the raiders said hey we’ll go to san diego,we have a fan base there..then the chargers would really be up the creek w/o a paddle.the raiders would contol almost the whole california market and the chargers in LA would be the most irrelevant team in the state! the spanos family knows woth them in san diego they have a rooted fan base versus with so many transplants in LA (more than in san diego) they would really never have a homefield advatage because LA has so many fans of other teams and even though chargers fans are in LA now,they do not out number the people who dont like the chargers! if rams move to LA the st louis market could open up for the jags,if san diego market were to open up it would appeal to the raiders or jags.. lots of factors and atleast san diego has a vote setup!!!!

    bottom line spanos family doesnt want to sell team,family is rooted in san diego their kids all went to school in san diego and their families are rooted in san diego as well… read between the lines of what the media tries to spin!!!!! the chargers have had an out clause for atleast 4 years now and have never exercised it!! they have spent millions on getting something done in san diego!!!they could have left a long time ago if they really wanted to,but like i said i know personally from within their family they DO NOT wanna move to LA!!!!! they want to get something done in SD even if it means waiting!!! the chargers largest fan base period is in san diego and san diego county,dont lose sight of that!!the bread and butter resides in san diego!! its not always the most obvious of things that will happen.it will normally be someting (a team nobody expects)….

  33. cosmicfire7rays says: Jul 5, 2012 11:26 AM

    “Again, that’s not what the memo says. A team can move to Los Angeles and play elsewhere temporarily.”

    Um, the bigger memo says no team is willing to commit to a temporary arrangement when the new stadium plans remain undecided.

    You gotta build it first or at least finalize a decision.

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now!