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Brees ruling potentially throws a wrench into negotiations

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The NFLPA understandably has declared victory in the wake of the ruling from arbitrator Stephen Burbank regarding the Saints’ hypothetical application of the franchise tag to quarterback Drew Brees in 2013.  But there’s nothing hypothetical about the impact of the decision on Brees’ contract negotiations.

By stacking the 2005 franchise tag placed on Brees by the Chargers with the 2012 franchise tag placed on Brees by the Saints, Brees would be tagged a third time in 2013, entitling him to a 144-percent raise over his 2012 salary.

It means that Brees would receive $23.574 million in 2013, nearly $4 million more than the Saints believed he would be owed.

Plenty of folks in the media already are shrugging at the ruling, claiming that the inevitable long-term deal between Brees and the Saints will make his franchise tender come 2013 irrelevant.  But here’s the point so many are missing:  Brees now is in line to earn nearly $40 million over the next two years under the franchise tag.

And so Brees now has a hammer in the long-term negotiations, and Brees surely will use it.  Agent Tom Condon will argue that Brees should receive for the next two years at least the full amount of the two franchise tags.

The Saints may balk at guaranteeing the 2012 and 2013 franchise tenders now, given that Brees would have to finish 2012 with his health and proverbial fastball.  The Saints are more likely to resist if the quarterback’s revised offer exceeds the amount of Brees’ pre-ruling demand.

If the ruling causes the gap to grow, the Saints may decide to let the current one-year tag ride, continuing a game of franchise tender chicken that could prompt Brees to boycott all of training camp and the preseason before showing up and getting his fully-guaranteed $16.371 million, knowing that in 2013 he’ll either receive $23.574 million or hit the open market.

So while it remains the reasonable view that the Saints and Brees will get a long-term deal done, the reasonable view has been consistently incorrect for nearly a year.  Don’t be shocked if Tuesday’s ruling continues a string of unexpected developments on a deal that should have been done a long time ago.

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34 Responses to “Brees ruling potentially throws a wrench into negotiations”
  1. nyyjetsknicks says: Jul 3, 2012 2:34 PM

    Brees wants a long term deal so he doesn’t have to worry about injuries. If Brees gets “Carson Palmered” and tears his ACL in the first playoff game, the Saints wouldn’t franchise him in the 2013 season.

  2. xxwhodatxx says: Jul 3, 2012 2:34 PM

    Actually I think it makes things clearer. Now there is an exact number to go by . So they should make that offer and get the deal done, which it probably will be soon.

  3. gumbogumbo says: Jul 3, 2012 2:34 PM

    The Saints are having themselves one heck of an off season….

  4. sportmentary says: Jul 3, 2012 2:35 PM

    I’m hoping this causes great friction between the two sides. The longer the negotiations go, the happier I will be.

  5. patsaintsbroncoscheat says: Jul 3, 2012 2:35 PM

    No way any player deserves 40 million for two years. I am admittedly not a Saints fan but there is no way I would give ANY player that much.

  6. gmsalpha says: Jul 3, 2012 2:37 PM

    Franchise tender chicken…..

    Sounds yummy.

    Is this going to be the new Peyton Manning front page news that never seems to go away? Come on, man! I know it’s just business, but it sure is ugly.

  7. hmpennypacker says: Jul 3, 2012 2:39 PM

    Agree with patsaintsbroncoscheat. This type of money to play a game is obscene.

  8. saints25 says: Jul 3, 2012 2:42 PM

    man this is a joke..everyone blaming Saints organzation,when Drew Brees called off contract talks last year…

  9. cappa662 says: Jul 3, 2012 2:42 PM

    No Brees = the Saints don’t get more than 5 wins with Chase Daniels as it’s QB.

  10. jimbo75025 says: Jul 3, 2012 2:45 PM

    Anybody else gonna throw up if they read one more Saints related headline for a while?

  11. mjkelly77 says: Jul 3, 2012 2:47 PM

    Put some cheap bums in front of Brees to pass block. Then let him know that he’s asking for so much money, the team can’t afford to pay for any good offensive linemen. Maybe then he’ll realize what a salary cap means to a team.

  12. SeenThisB4 says: Jul 3, 2012 2:54 PM

    I doubt he asks for more money, but he sure as hell isn’t going to take a penny less than what he was asking for pre-arbitration decision.

  13. sj39 says: Jul 3, 2012 2:54 PM

    The way the fans are siding with one player and thumbing their noses at this storied organization, I’d cut Brees and move the team to a different LA.

  14. gotampabay52 says: Jul 3, 2012 2:59 PM

    go pay him what are you going to put around him back ups stupid saints

  15. effedinLA says: Jul 3, 2012 3:02 PM

    How many teams have won the Superbowl when their QB held out all of training camp and the pre season? I hope Brees does exactly that.

  16. foul83 says: Jul 3, 2012 3:06 PM

    I mean, Field of Dreams was good, but it didn’t blow me away. You have to put The Bodyguard on the same level, if not above it. Much love, Kevin.

  17. allforfunnplay says: Jul 3, 2012 3:14 PM

    i wonder if it would be cheaper to just let him hit the free agent market and simply out bid the highest bidder. of course that allows brees to pick his team for any reason other than just money. but i have to think that if the saints match and or exceed any offer that brees would sign with the saints.

    are there any teams out there willing to pay brees more than $23M a year? what’s his market price?

  18. dbones750 says: Jul 3, 2012 3:15 PM

    Neat picture, Drew. “I remember my first ring” – Eli Manning

  19. realitypolice says: Jul 3, 2012 3:18 PM

    patsaintsbroncoscheat says:
    Jul 3, 2012 2:35 PM
    No way any player deserves 40 million for two years. I am admittedly not a Saints fan but there is no way I would give ANY player that much.
    ========================

    Why do people get so resentful at the big numbers that get thrown around for athletes.

    Matt friggin Lauer makes 30 million dollars a year to sit on a couch for 4 hours a day and talk into a camera.

    I’d much rather see an athlete who puts his body on the line make that kind of money.

  20. pjgrannan says: Jul 3, 2012 3:18 PM

    It really is basic negotiation. While there was uncertainty Brees needed to reduce his demand to allow for the uncertainty. Now that this uncertainty has been resolved in his favor Brees SHOULD increase his demand. The uncertainty regarding risk of injury still remains though so there may be room for some discount under the two year franchise numbers.

    BTW – what happens in 2014. Can the Saints still franchise him (4th time) and what would the number be ?

  21. jakek2 says: Jul 3, 2012 3:24 PM

    First off, whoever posts that “nobody deserves 20M to play football” is a tool. We get it. Football players get paid a lot of money….move on.

    With that out of the way, the Saints should pay Brees year to year. He’s getting up there in age and could lose his fastball at any point or get injured. Pay in that high range takes away money to pay a supporting cast. Plus, the Saints shouldn’t worry about Brees hitting the open market. There’s not many teams with $20+M in cap space who’d make a long term commitment to an aging QB. The teams that do have that money are teams like the Dolphins and I just don’t see Brees going there unless they blew him away with a Peyton Manning type offer (in which case, it’s not worth it to the Saints anyhow).

  22. jason1980 says: Jul 3, 2012 3:26 PM

    Everybody’s sick of tired of Saints headlines, yet post a comment on every article posted. If you think the media coverage is over the top now, just wait until regular season starts, it’s gonna be all about the powerhouse Saints. There’s a thin line between love and envy, and there are only two courts on this site. There are those who love the Saints, and those who envy us. Who Dat baby! We Dat!

  23. beingnickb says: Jul 3, 2012 3:26 PM

    He would not be entitled to a 144% raise next year. He would be entitled to 144% of this year’s salary. That’s a big difference (100% to be exact). It would be a 44% raise next year.

  24. dryzzt23 says: Jul 3, 2012 3:29 PM

    Trade Brees now, let some other sucker pay him that kind of jack.

  25. robf2010 says: Jul 3, 2012 3:43 PM

    “are there any teams out there willing to pay brees more than $23M a year?”

    Somoeone paid Peyton Manning almost $19 million. He’s 3 years older and coming off of 4 major neck surgeries. Yes, there are teams who would pay Brees that much. No ifs, ands, or buts.

  26. purpleguy says: Jul 3, 2012 4:00 PM

    Seems fitting — while Peyton’s marital divorce is pending, so is Brees’ NFL divorce from the Saints.

  27. marthisdil says: Jul 3, 2012 4:12 PM

    Maybe the A’ints will put a bounty on their own quarterback at the end of the season so he gets Theismann’ed negating any bargaining power he has…

  28. vetdana says: Jul 3, 2012 4:28 PM

    I would like to know where these escalating mega money player contracts are going and how long it is going to take them to get there.Fans ability to keep paying higher and higher prices to see these games well not keep up, as I know of many fans every year not being able to keep their season tickets or even attend single games.At some point this game is going to price itself out of existence!

  29. jakek2 says: Jul 3, 2012 4:37 PM

    robf2010 says:
    Jul 3, 2012 3:43 PM
    “are there any teams out there willing to pay brees more than $23M a year?”

    Somoeone paid Peyton Manning almost $19 million. He’s 3 years older and coming off of 4 major neck surgeries. Yes, there are teams who would pay Brees that much. No ifs, ands, or buts.
    ———-
    Different. PM is a QB and OC rolled into one. You can wrap him up, package him, drop him in any offense and they will rock. Brees on the other hand would have to learn a whole new system. Plus, PM lucked into a perfect situation with a team that only needed a QB and had money to spend. The only teams left with the space to pay Brees are teams like Jax, Mia, TB, etc. No way is he playing for any of those.

  30. electionconfidential says: Jul 3, 2012 4:37 PM

    “Is this going to be the new Peyton Manning front page news that never seems to go away? Come on, man! I know it’s just business, but it sure is ugly.”

    ———————–

    Actually that story was over in about 3 weeks. It just seemed like forever. This story has been going on much longer. It just doesn’t seem as long because we’re also being bombarded with all the other griping by Brees and the Saints.

  31. electionconfidential says: Jul 3, 2012 4:38 PM

    I honestly don’t think I ever want to see another Saints game. I just can’t stand the sight of them anymore.

  32. baily67 says: Jul 3, 2012 4:47 PM

    I’m sorry, but Brees isn’t worth all of this hype. He’s not Peyton or Brady and shouldn’t be paid the same, he just isn’t. Sorry Saints fans. He’s good, not superb. and he’s getting old!

  33. granadafan says: Jul 3, 2012 4:50 PM

    hmpennypacker says:
    Jul 3, 2012 2:39 PM
    Agree with patsaintsbroncoscheat. This type of money to play a game is obscene
    =======================================

    Well, considering the NFL receives multi billion dollar TV contracts, the advertising deals are worth billions, a 30 second commercial costs 3 million or so, the owners are worth billions, then giving your star player who single handedly makes the offense go $20 million is quite reasonable. We average schmoes cannot fathom $20 million, but we are not only of a handful of people on the planet who can do our job and excel at it.

  34. CKL says: Jul 3, 2012 4:53 PM

    realitypolice says:
    Jul 3, 2012 3:18 PM

    Why do people get so resentful at the big numbers that get thrown around for athletes.

    Matt friggin Lauer makes 30 million dollars a year to sit on a couch for 4 hours a day and talk into a camera.

    I’d much rather see an athlete who puts his body on the line make that kind of money.
    ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
    I have no beefs with guys wanting to make the most someone is willing to pay them. But Lauer doesn’t have a salary cap at his job. What irks me is if a guy wants to eat up so much cap that his team can’t be that competitive elsewhere (Cough…Polian’s Colts…cough).

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