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	<title>Comments on: Goodell files motion to dismiss Vilma&#8217;s defamation suit</title>
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		<title>By: mwindle1973</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/goodell-files-motion-to-dismiss-vilmas-defamation-suit/#comment-1865760</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 03:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3octaveFart says: Jul 5, 2012 4:09 PM

“Goodell also claims that Vilma’s lawsuit fails to specifically allege that the Commissioner made false statements regarding Vilma with “actual malice,””

..in much the same way that Vilma claims that Goodell acted without any actual evidence…
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Don&#039;t you realize that you can&#039;t sue someone for defamation and not specifically allege how they specifically acted to do this with malice.  The with malice part, is the biggest key to a defamation suit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3octaveFart says: Jul 5, 2012 4:09 PM</p>
<p>“Goodell also claims that Vilma’s lawsuit fails to specifically allege that the Commissioner made false statements regarding Vilma with “actual malice,””</p>
<p>..in much the same way that Vilma claims that Goodell acted without any actual evidence…<br />
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<p>Don&#8217;t you realize that you can&#8217;t sue someone for defamation and not specifically allege how they specifically acted to do this with malice.  The with malice part, is the biggest key to a defamation suit.</p>
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		<title>By: jjbadd</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/goodell-files-motion-to-dismiss-vilmas-defamation-suit/#comment-1865758</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 03:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My very 1st assessment &amp; opinion of this whole situation seems to be absolutely right. It&#039;s very simple. It&#039;s nothin more than a possible pay for performance amongst players, for hard but legal playing, that got blown way out of proportion! Maybe they got a couple grand for a sack, or int, or forced fumble, etc. That&#039;s no big deal, &amp; I stick to my opinion that it likely happens on many other teams! Now the problem is, Goodell probably realizes its not as serious as he thought, but feels he is past the point of no return! I don&#039;t care for tha Saints, I&#039;ve always like my Broncos..but I&#039;ll always know that the Saints players, &amp; coaches got crapped on by Goodell because he ain&#039;t man enough to admit he overreacted. Also, anyone that has been keeping up with this, &amp; believes Goodell is capable of being fair, is very mistaken! He used certain evidence to suspend Vilma, then admits his evidence against Vilma was evidence at all, yet doesn&#039;t make any change! That is just corrupt! I hope Vilma and the other few Saints win any &amp; everything they can against dictator Goodell! Common sense tells you that its not fair to pick a certain few out of an entire team tha is presumed to be involved, &amp; punish just the few!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My very 1st assessment &amp; opinion of this whole situation seems to be absolutely right. It&#8217;s very simple. It&#8217;s nothin more than a possible pay for performance amongst players, for hard but legal playing, that got blown way out of proportion! Maybe they got a couple grand for a sack, or int, or forced fumble, etc. That&#8217;s no big deal, &amp; I stick to my opinion that it likely happens on many other teams! Now the problem is, Goodell probably realizes its not as serious as he thought, but feels he is past the point of no return! I don&#8217;t care for tha Saints, I&#8217;ve always like my Broncos..but I&#8217;ll always know that the Saints players, &amp; coaches got crapped on by Goodell because he ain&#8217;t man enough to admit he overreacted. Also, anyone that has been keeping up with this, &amp; believes Goodell is capable of being fair, is very mistaken! He used certain evidence to suspend Vilma, then admits his evidence against Vilma was evidence at all, yet doesn&#8217;t make any change! That is just corrupt! I hope Vilma and the other few Saints win any &amp; everything they can against dictator Goodell! Common sense tells you that its not fair to pick a certain few out of an entire team tha is presumed to be involved, &amp; punish just the few!</p>
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		<title>By: bucs13</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 23:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;What if this were the 1960s and a private school prohibited a black student from attending class? Will you argue that this is a private school, thus this is not our business?&quot;

I recommend learning the law, or watching the Masters. (As a side note, the intersection between private groups and discrimination is complex, but is statutory.)

Also, re: jakek2:
1. No. Just because it&#039;s an intentional tort, doesn&#039;t mean that it isn&#039;t covered by the CBA. If the defamation claims are necessarily arising from conduct within the CBA, it will be preempted. I think it&#039;s a pretty strong argument.

2. This is just wrong. The First Amendment protection is there expressly to get these issues away from a jury, and they are often dealt with on a motion to dismiss (and occasionally summary judgment). It is *extremely, extremely* rare for a public figure/matter of public concern defamation case to get to a jury.

3. You misunderstand what &quot;matter of public importance&quot; means.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What if this were the 1960s and a private school prohibited a black student from attending class? Will you argue that this is a private school, thus this is not our business?&#8221;</p>
<p>I recommend learning the law, or watching the Masters. (As a side note, the intersection between private groups and discrimination is complex, but is statutory.)</p>
<p>Also, re: jakek2:<br />
1. No. Just because it&#8217;s an intentional tort, doesn&#8217;t mean that it isn&#8217;t covered by the CBA. If the defamation claims are necessarily arising from conduct within the CBA, it will be preempted. I think it&#8217;s a pretty strong argument.</p>
<p>2. This is just wrong. The First Amendment protection is there expressly to get these issues away from a jury, and they are often dealt with on a motion to dismiss (and occasionally summary judgment). It is *extremely, extremely* rare for a public figure/matter of public concern defamation case to get to a jury.</p>
<p>3. You misunderstand what &#8220;matter of public importance&#8221; means.</p>
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		<title>By: gtodriver</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 23:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[samapoc says: 

&quot;It should be easy for Vilma to at least get this to court...&quot;

It may be easy for him to get it to court, but the question is, can he prevail - even in the Louisiana court.

If he makes it through the court system in Lousiana, the appeals court will kick it to the curb.

He&#039;s just wasting the NFLPA&#039;s money with all this legal wrangling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>samapoc says: </p>
<p>&#8220;It should be easy for Vilma to at least get this to court&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>It may be easy for him to get it to court, but the question is, can he prevail &#8211; even in the Louisiana court.</p>
<p>If he makes it through the court system in Lousiana, the appeals court will kick it to the curb.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s just wasting the NFLPA&#8217;s money with all this legal wrangling.</p>
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		<title>By: samapoc</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/goodell-files-motion-to-dismiss-vilmas-defamation-suit/#comment-1865200</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It should be easy for Vilma to at least get this to court, considering the amount of posturing Goodell has done in the media. What I don&#039;t understand is that Goodell had to know where this was going from the start. So why do it this way, with lame &quot;evidence&quot; and seemingly false accusations??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be easy for Vilma to at least get this to court, considering the amount of posturing Goodell has done in the media. What I don&#8217;t understand is that Goodell had to know where this was going from the start. So why do it this way, with lame &#8220;evidence&#8221; and seemingly false accusations??</p>
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		<title>By: baddorange</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You brought the NFL to its golden days.  Go away as you now will hasten he arrival of its going down the dumper.  Ax him before its too late.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You brought the NFL to its golden days.  Go away as you now will hasten he arrival of its going down the dumper.  Ax him before its too late.</p>
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		<title>By: sdisme</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/goodell-files-motion-to-dismiss-vilmas-defamation-suit/#comment-1865189</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll say it again, and every chance I get...

Fair penalties and this would have all been over by the draft.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll say it again, and every chance I get&#8230;</p>
<p>Fair penalties and this would have all been over by the draft.</p>
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		<title>By: hitwithafade</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[only money keeps congress out of anything...you think Durbin was around for Pita chips and hummus last week?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>only money keeps congress out of anything&#8230;you think Durbin was around for Pita chips and hummus last week?</p>
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		<title>By: flaccotoboldin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[seller1717:


Actually, they lost a higher draft pick than you and drew large fines.


The difference is, the league hadn&#039;t told bellichick multiple times to knock it off.  They discovered it, and then destroyed all the evidence for the &quot;good&quot; of the league.  And the Pats cooperated because they knew they were boned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seller1717:</p>
<p>Actually, they lost a higher draft pick than you and drew large fines.</p>
<p>The difference is, the league hadn&#8217;t told bellichick multiple times to knock it off.  They discovered it, and then destroyed all the evidence for the &#8220;good&#8221; of the league.  And the Pats cooperated because they knew they were boned.</p>
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		<title>By: jchuber</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The players always receive cruel  punishment, and no  mercy for the smallest infractions.   (ie uniform infractions ) Management influences the entire franchise and gets a comparitible slap on the wrist.  How can the GM with oversight responsible get 6 months suspension, while a player gets a full year?  You call that justice?

King godell needs to go!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The players always receive cruel  punishment, and no  mercy for the smallest infractions.   (ie uniform infractions ) Management influences the entire franchise and gets a comparitible slap on the wrist.  How can the GM with oversight responsible get 6 months suspension, while a player gets a full year?  You call that justice?</p>
<p>King godell needs to go!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: jakek2</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/goodell-files-motion-to-dismiss-vilmas-defamation-suit/#comment-1865044</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jakek2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Goodell&#039;s motion will be denied.

1)  Defamation is an intentional tort.  Logically, these aren&#039;t covered by CBA agreements otherwise bosses would sexually harass their union employees.  The CBA argument is a loser.

2)  Goodell&#039;s claim that he did not act with actual malice or commit outrageous conduct is not for a judge to decide in the beginning stage of a lawsuit on a motion to dismiss.  Those are issues to be resolved on motion for summary judgment and/or are best left for the trier of fact (jury).

3)  Anti-Slapp - I actually think is Goodell&#039;s strongest defense.  However, I&#039;m not sure concussions suffered by athletes making 10s of millions of dollars is a &quot;matter of public importance&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodell&#8217;s motion will be denied.</p>
<p>1)  Defamation is an intentional tort.  Logically, these aren&#8217;t covered by CBA agreements otherwise bosses would sexually harass their union employees.  The CBA argument is a loser.</p>
<p>2)  Goodell&#8217;s claim that he did not act with actual malice or commit outrageous conduct is not for a judge to decide in the beginning stage of a lawsuit on a motion to dismiss.  Those are issues to be resolved on motion for summary judgment and/or are best left for the trier of fact (jury).</p>
<p>3)  Anti-Slapp &#8211; I actually think is Goodell&#8217;s strongest defense.  However, I&#8217;m not sure concussions suffered by athletes making 10s of millions of dollars is a &#8220;matter of public importance&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: 3octaveFart</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[3octaveFart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Goodell also claims that Vilma’s lawsuit fails to specifically allege that the Commissioner made false statements regarding Vilma with “actual malice,””

..in much the same way that Vilma claims that Goodell acted without any actual evidence…]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Goodell also claims that Vilma’s lawsuit fails to specifically allege that the Commissioner made false statements regarding Vilma with “actual malice,””</p>
<p>..in much the same way that Vilma claims that Goodell acted without any actual evidence…</p>
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		<title>By: seller1717</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[saintsfan26 says:
If the players and coaches wouldn’t have lied from the beginning this would have never happened. Shut up Saints fans.

dude do you really think it&#039;s only Saints fans that are calling BS?  If Goodell would have handed NE the same punishment as NO got, i would be calling BS on that too.  They got a slap on the wrist and it blew over rather quickly.  the lesson was learned and we all moved on.  The punishment handed down to the Saints was incredibly over the top.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saintsfan26 says:<br />
If the players and coaches wouldn’t have lied from the beginning this would have never happened. Shut up Saints fans.</p>
<p>dude do you really think it&#8217;s only Saints fans that are calling BS?  If Goodell would have handed NE the same punishment as NO got, i would be calling BS on that too.  They got a slap on the wrist and it blew over rather quickly.  the lesson was learned and we all moved on.  The punishment handed down to the Saints was incredibly over the top.</p>
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		<title>By: eyeh8goodell</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@packhawk04

The CBA doesn&#039;t give Goodell the right to defame people. He is still as accountable to the laws of our society as anybody else. So no, the players did NOT sign off on Goodell being above the law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@packhawk04</p>
<p>The CBA doesn&#8217;t give Goodell the right to defame people. He is still as accountable to the laws of our society as anybody else. So no, the players did NOT sign off on Goodell being above the law.</p>
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		<title>By: dryzzt23</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 19:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The players lied in the first place, if they had come clean early and ratted out their coaches then they wouldn&#039;t be in this mess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The players lied in the first place, if they had come clean early and ratted out their coaches then they wouldn&#8217;t be in this mess.</p>
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		<title>By: thcnote</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 19:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[saintsfan26 says:
Jul 5, 2012 2:30 PM
If Goodell would’ve been fair and not try to act like the second coming of Adolf Hitler, then he wouldnt be in this mess. This is just the beginning, Roger. Keep trying to act like you are God, and you will continue to lose all respect from players and fans. This is America bro, that type of sh-t dont fly around here.
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If the players and coaches wouldn&#039;t have lied from the beginning this would have never happened. Shut up Saints fans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saintsfan26 says:<br />
Jul 5, 2012 2:30 PM<br />
If Goodell would’ve been fair and not try to act like the second coming of Adolf Hitler, then he wouldnt be in this mess. This is just the beginning, Roger. Keep trying to act like you are God, and you will continue to lose all respect from players and fans. This is America bro, that type of sh-t dont fly around here.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
If the players and coaches wouldn&#8217;t have lied from the beginning this would have never happened. Shut up Saints fans.</p>
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		<title>By: packhawk04</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 19:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nobody should have sympathy for the players if goodell has complete authority over these matters. They negotiated a cba, and signed off on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody should have sympathy for the players if goodell has complete authority over these matters. They negotiated a cba, and signed off on it.</p>
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		<title>By: eyeh8goodell</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 19:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Goodell, but pro football is simply an entertainment product and is in no way shape or form a &quot;matter of public importance&quot;. I know you like to act like the NFL is the United Nations or something but it&#039;s just an entertainment product.....much like the WWE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Goodell, but pro football is simply an entertainment product and is in no way shape or form a &#8220;matter of public importance&#8221;. I know you like to act like the NFL is the United Nations or something but it&#8217;s just an entertainment product&#8230;..much like the WWE.</p>
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		<title>By: treesloth16</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 19:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is defamation on Goodells part. He says that Vilma did malicious things, and is punishing him. Goodell did this through the public. However, he did not provide meaningful evidence to Vilma nor the public. Vilma is suing because he believes the evidence does not prove anything and paints a negative picture of him to the public. So he is suing the NFL/Goodell. Why should Vilma &#039;take it like a man&#039; if he believes Goodell is doing this out of spite?

If you were Vilma, you&#039;d do the same thing.

What if this were the 1960s and a private school prohibited a black student from attending class? Will you argue that this is a private school, thus this is not our business?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is defamation on Goodells part. He says that Vilma did malicious things, and is punishing him. Goodell did this through the public. However, he did not provide meaningful evidence to Vilma nor the public. Vilma is suing because he believes the evidence does not prove anything and paints a negative picture of him to the public. So he is suing the NFL/Goodell. Why should Vilma &#8216;take it like a man&#8217; if he believes Goodell is doing this out of spite?</p>
<p>If you were Vilma, you&#8217;d do the same thing.</p>
<p>What if this were the 1960s and a private school prohibited a black student from attending class? Will you argue that this is a private school, thus this is not our business?</p>
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		<title>By: seller1717</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/goodell-files-motion-to-dismiss-vilmas-defamation-suit/#comment-1864970</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 19:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am sick of the &quot;Since Greg Williams and Sean Payton are staying quiet, so it must be true&quot; argument.  For those who feel this way, understand that Williams wants back in the league at some point and Goodell is the key to that happening.  It would be foolish of him to go against Goodell.  He is a smart man and will keep his mouth shut.  The same for Payton.  There is no guarantee that after he serves his year suspension he is automatically back in.  He still has to go through Goodell to be reinstated.  Goodell made a debacle out of this.  He went overboard on the punishment plain and simple.  Had he been a little more reasonable from the start this would have blown over by now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sick of the &#8220;Since Greg Williams and Sean Payton are staying quiet, so it must be true&#8221; argument.  For those who feel this way, understand that Williams wants back in the league at some point and Goodell is the key to that happening.  It would be foolish of him to go against Goodell.  He is a smart man and will keep his mouth shut.  The same for Payton.  There is no guarantee that after he serves his year suspension he is automatically back in.  He still has to go through Goodell to be reinstated.  Goodell made a debacle out of this.  He went overboard on the punishment plain and simple.  Had he been a little more reasonable from the start this would have blown over by now.</p>
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		<title>By: silentcount</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/goodell-files-motion-to-dismiss-vilmas-defamation-suit/#comment-1864960</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 19:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Goodell makes the harshest accusations and levies the most severe punishments in the history of the NFL, then the proof should be able to stand up in a court of law. If he doesn&#039;t understand that, then he truly is drunk from his own power. If Vilma was guilty, then he knows there&#039;d be plenty of witnesses to testify in a court. If he was innocent, he knows there had to be someone who lied to Goodell. Taking it to court is the only option he has to prove &quot;I didn&#039;t do it.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Goodell makes the harshest accusations and levies the most severe punishments in the history of the NFL, then the proof should be able to stand up in a court of law. If he doesn&#8217;t understand that, then he truly is drunk from his own power. If Vilma was guilty, then he knows there&#8217;d be plenty of witnesses to testify in a court. If he was innocent, he knows there had to be someone who lied to Goodell. Taking it to court is the only option he has to prove &#8220;I didn&#8217;t do it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jrmbadger</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/goodell-files-motion-to-dismiss-vilmas-defamation-suit/#comment-1864954</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 19:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Goodell had handled this differently, this wouldn&#039;t be a problem.  

First, the CBA was enacted prior to Goodell&#039;s latest and greatest overreaching with the bounty scandal.  Previous to that, the biggest gripe was the inconsistent fines that were levied.   The stakes seem much higher with this.   I can understand how the player&#039;s wouldn&#039;t have been as concerned with this aspect as other aspects - Goodell hadn&#039;t abused his power all that much (although Steelers fans might disagree).  

Second, just because the CBA gives Goodell the RIGHT to be the judge, jury, and executioner, does not mean he HAS to.  

A better leader would have stepped back and had an independent arbiter handle the appeals.  Had that been the case, the player&#039;s lawsuits would have gone nowhere.  

As it stands now, I think the players have a chance at winning.  For all intents and purposes, it seems the league convinced itself of the player&#039;s guilt and then moved forward with that premise throughout all stages. 

AND.... for the fans of teams that aren&#039;t implicated - you should still care.  Ask yourself - if your favorite player were suspended for 1/2 the year or longer on such flimsy evidence, would you care?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Goodell had handled this differently, this wouldn&#8217;t be a problem.  </p>
<p>First, the CBA was enacted prior to Goodell&#8217;s latest and greatest overreaching with the bounty scandal.  Previous to that, the biggest gripe was the inconsistent fines that were levied.   The stakes seem much higher with this.   I can understand how the player&#8217;s wouldn&#8217;t have been as concerned with this aspect as other aspects &#8211; Goodell hadn&#8217;t abused his power all that much (although Steelers fans might disagree).  </p>
<p>Second, just because the CBA gives Goodell the RIGHT to be the judge, jury, and executioner, does not mean he HAS to.  </p>
<p>A better leader would have stepped back and had an independent arbiter handle the appeals.  Had that been the case, the player&#8217;s lawsuits would have gone nowhere.  </p>
<p>As it stands now, I think the players have a chance at winning.  For all intents and purposes, it seems the league convinced itself of the player&#8217;s guilt and then moved forward with that premise throughout all stages. </p>
<p>AND&#8230;. for the fans of teams that aren&#8217;t implicated &#8211; you should still care.  Ask yourself &#8211; if your favorite player were suspended for 1/2 the year or longer on such flimsy evidence, would you care?</p>
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		<title>By: thingamajig</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/goodell-files-motion-to-dismiss-vilmas-defamation-suit/#comment-1864901</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 18:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If what Vilma and his lawyer thinks overules a written and agreed upon process then they just may have a chance at winning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If what Vilma and his lawyer thinks overules a written and agreed upon process then they just may have a chance at winning.</p>
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		<title>By: drexelvol</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/goodell-files-motion-to-dismiss-vilmas-defamation-suit/#comment-1864895</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 18:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m no lawyer, but I don&#039;t understand how a CBA means that Goodell can trump the law and publicly slander and defame a player.  

I&#039;m not saying he did or didn&#039;t in to Vilma, but that&#039;s what this is case is showing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no lawyer, but I don&#8217;t understand how a CBA means that Goodell can trump the law and publicly slander and defame a player.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying he did or didn&#8217;t in to Vilma, but that&#8217;s what this is case is showing.</p>
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		<title>By: jjbadd</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/goodell-files-motion-to-dismiss-vilmas-defamation-suit/#comment-1864894</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 18:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not even saying what should or should not happen in the Vilma case, but 1 thing is certain. Goodell does not need sole power to decide on issues. It is ABSOLUTELY unfair, &amp; anyone who feels differently probably is comfortable with communism  or dictators. There are too many scenarios, and the NFL has too much interest in itself to have 1 man deciding everything. I&#039;m actually rooting for Vilma for that reason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not even saying what should or should not happen in the Vilma case, but 1 thing is certain. Goodell does not need sole power to decide on issues. It is ABSOLUTELY unfair, &amp; anyone who feels differently probably is comfortable with communism  or dictators. There are too many scenarios, and the NFL has too much interest in itself to have 1 man deciding everything. I&#8217;m actually rooting for Vilma for that reason.</p>
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		<title>By: saints4evah</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/goodell-files-motion-to-dismiss-vilmas-defamation-suit/#comment-1864893</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 18:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Goodell took too much power while the entire NFLPA was worried about money...this was bad lawyering from the beginning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodell took too much power while the entire NFLPA was worried about money&#8230;this was bad lawyering from the beginning.</p>
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		<title>By: saintsfan26</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/goodell-files-motion-to-dismiss-vilmas-defamation-suit/#comment-1864891</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 18:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Goodell would&#039;ve been fair and not try to act like the second coming of Adolf Hitler, then he wouldnt be in this mess.  This is just the beginning, Roger.   Keep trying to act like you are God, and you will continue to lose all respect from players and fans.  This is America bro, that type of sh-t dont fly around here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Goodell would&#8217;ve been fair and not try to act like the second coming of Adolf Hitler, then he wouldnt be in this mess.  This is just the beginning, Roger.   Keep trying to act like you are God, and you will continue to lose all respect from players and fans.  This is America bro, that type of sh-t dont fly around here.</p>
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		<title>By: drdonkey</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/goodell-files-motion-to-dismiss-vilmas-defamation-suit/#comment-1864887</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 18:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone get Fred Davis on Vilmas speed dial, he seems to know his way around the court room!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone get Fred Davis on Vilmas speed dial, he seems to know his way around the court room!</p>
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		<title>By: vetdana</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/goodell-files-motion-to-dismiss-vilmas-defamation-suit/#comment-1864883</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vetdana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 18:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Defamation is very hard to prove in Court.We don&#039;t have &quot;actual Malice &quot; or &quot;Outrageous Conduct&quot;,which is necessary to move forward.But the biggest problem is, as Goodell states,&quot; that the CBA trumps an individual claim&quot;.Think of  the precedent that is set if the Unions Grievance Procedures ARE trumped and the case moves forward.Every time a player disagrees with a decision, he files a civil suit in hopes of gaining a reduction or reversal.This would happen in all Pro Sports.A host of legal suits could follow including a challenge of the sports Anti-trust exemption!.....This motion is NOT going to go anywhere....Period !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Defamation is very hard to prove in Court.We don&#8217;t have &#8220;actual Malice &#8221; or &#8220;Outrageous Conduct&#8221;,which is necessary to move forward.But the biggest problem is, as Goodell states,&#8221; that the CBA trumps an individual claim&#8221;.Think of  the precedent that is set if the Unions Grievance Procedures ARE trumped and the case moves forward.Every time a player disagrees with a decision, he files a civil suit in hopes of gaining a reduction or reversal.This would happen in all Pro Sports.A host of legal suits could follow including a challenge of the sports Anti-trust exemption!&#8230;..This motion is NOT going to go anywhere&#8230;.Period !</p>
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		<title>By: billsfan27</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/goodell-files-motion-to-dismiss-vilmas-defamation-suit/#comment-1864877</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[billsfan27]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 18:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In reality, won&#039;t this simply come down to Goodell and the NFL outspending Vilma in court?

Money talks, and usually wins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reality, won&#8217;t this simply come down to Goodell and the NFL outspending Vilma in court?</p>
<p>Money talks, and usually wins.</p>
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