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	<title>Comments on: Toomer stands by his Romo-Eli remarks</title>
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		<title>By: austinoxford</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/06/toomer-stands-by-his-romo-eli-remarks/#comment-1873396</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone talking about Romo&#039;s &quot;stats&quot; seems to be concerned with only one stat: Super Bowl Wins.  If that is the measuring stick, then Ely is on par with John Elway by way of them both having 2 SB wins.  He&#039;s better than Peyton, and he&#039;s head and shoulders ahead of Jim Kelly, Tarkenton, Fouts, and Marino.  If you want to take stats out of the equation, then take them all out.  You cannot be selective as to which come in and which stay out.  I prefer to keep stats in the equation, and Eli has had one standout statistical year; Romo has had 4.  Yards, touchdowns, interceptions, and qb rating are all individual stats that go toward telling who is a better QB.  Super Bowl victories tell the tale of a well-rounded TEAM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone talking about Romo&#8217;s &#8220;stats&#8221; seems to be concerned with only one stat: Super Bowl Wins.  If that is the measuring stick, then Ely is on par with John Elway by way of them both having 2 SB wins.  He&#8217;s better than Peyton, and he&#8217;s head and shoulders ahead of Jim Kelly, Tarkenton, Fouts, and Marino.  If you want to take stats out of the equation, then take them all out.  You cannot be selective as to which come in and which stay out.  I prefer to keep stats in the equation, and Eli has had one standout statistical year; Romo has had 4.  Yards, touchdowns, interceptions, and qb rating are all individual stats that go toward telling who is a better QB.  Super Bowl victories tell the tale of a well-rounded TEAM.</p>
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		<title>By: blu4l1fe</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[citizenstrange says: 
Jul 6, 2012 10:13 PM 
I guess you could call Toomer’s remarks ” Romo-erotic!”

COME ON!

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This was hilarious!

Now to the serious stuff.  I guess, all this Romo hating and Eli hating is off base.  When it comes down to it, STATISTICALLY, Tumor is right.  If you put Eli&#039;s numbers against Romo&#039;s, there would be no comparison.

But in the world of sports, especially in the NY market, the question is always &quot;what have you done for me lately?&quot;  So, if we are going to go with that, and I am not quite sure, if urgency or time is of the essence in Dallas, Eli has essentially brought himself and the Giants two rings and he still has a good few years in him.  But looking at Romo and his good numbers, his career is not over but nearing it&#039;s latter part and still has nothing to show for but one playoff win.  I dunno, I will have to go with Eli.  Quite a few QBs have shown great numbers but have had the bad luck of not winning it all, maybe Romo will fall under this category.

I can tell you this though, most, if not all, Giants fan will agree, they would not rather Eli have Romo&#039;s numbers but no rings, but I&#039;m quite sure there are quite a few Dallas fans that would give up Romo&#039;s number, with the quickness, if he can have a ring or two.

Tumor can say whatever he want and claim he&#039;s just doing his job but people, and fans specifically, know whats up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>citizenstrange says:<br />
Jul 6, 2012 10:13 PM<br />
I guess you could call Toomer’s remarks ” Romo-erotic!”</p>
<p>COME ON!</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>This was hilarious!</p>
<p>Now to the serious stuff.  I guess, all this Romo hating and Eli hating is off base.  When it comes down to it, STATISTICALLY, Tumor is right.  If you put Eli&#8217;s numbers against Romo&#8217;s, there would be no comparison.</p>
<p>But in the world of sports, especially in the NY market, the question is always &#8220;what have you done for me lately?&#8221;  So, if we are going to go with that, and I am not quite sure, if urgency or time is of the essence in Dallas, Eli has essentially brought himself and the Giants two rings and he still has a good few years in him.  But looking at Romo and his good numbers, his career is not over but nearing it&#8217;s latter part and still has nothing to show for but one playoff win.  I dunno, I will have to go with Eli.  Quite a few QBs have shown great numbers but have had the bad luck of not winning it all, maybe Romo will fall under this category.</p>
<p>I can tell you this though, most, if not all, Giants fan will agree, they would not rather Eli have Romo&#8217;s numbers but no rings, but I&#8217;m quite sure there are quite a few Dallas fans that would give up Romo&#8217;s number, with the quickness, if he can have a ring or two.</p>
<p>Tumor can say whatever he want and claim he&#8217;s just doing his job but people, and fans specifically, know whats up.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelEdits</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/06/toomer-stands-by-his-romo-eli-remarks/#comment-1871457</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 11:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d probably take Bubby Brister.]]></description>
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		<title>By: bringbacktheflex</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/06/toomer-stands-by-his-romo-eli-remarks/#comment-1870459</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bringbacktheflex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2012 19:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I usually agree with, or mildy disagree with, Florio on most of his postings.  But this statement is so ridiculous and stupid I had to respond:  &quot;While relevant for fantasy-football owners, yards and touchdowns and interceptions and completion percentages and passer ratings have no relevance when it comes to winning games.&quot;

Really Mike?  Your QB throwing multiple INTs and completing less than 50% of his passes has NO RELEVANCE when it comes to winning a game??  You want Dilfer on your team as your starter??  You want Ryan Leaf as your starter?

Of course those statistics are relevent to winning.  Why do you think the more prolific QBs get the big contracts?  Why was Dilfer cut after WINNING A SB??  For crying out loud, you&#039;re a professional.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually agree with, or mildy disagree with, Florio on most of his postings.  But this statement is so ridiculous and stupid I had to respond:  &#8220;While relevant for fantasy-football owners, yards and touchdowns and interceptions and completion percentages and passer ratings have no relevance when it comes to winning games.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really Mike?  Your QB throwing multiple INTs and completing less than 50% of his passes has NO RELEVANCE when it comes to winning a game??  You want Dilfer on your team as your starter??  You want Ryan Leaf as your starter?</p>
<p>Of course those statistics are relevent to winning.  Why do you think the more prolific QBs get the big contracts?  Why was Dilfer cut after WINNING A SB??  For crying out loud, you&#8217;re a professional.</p>
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		<title>By: dal24la</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dal24la]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2012 06:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before this year I probably would have lead slightly towards Romo but Eli was a top 4 QB this year beyond doubt while Romo was only top 10 with some really bad moments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before this year I probably would have lead slightly towards Romo but Eli was a top 4 QB this year beyond doubt while Romo was only top 10 with some really bad moments.</p>
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		<title>By: giantsfanlewis</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/06/toomer-stands-by-his-romo-eli-remarks/#comment-1868876</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 14:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Duke calhour
Radius reynaud
Define tomas
Derek hagan

Those were the giants starting wrs for for much of the season due to nicks and manningham missed parts of the season. The only one with a name in the NFL is hagan and even he isn&#039;t known by most NFL fans]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duke calhour<br />
Radius reynaud<br />
Define tomas<br />
Derek hagan</p>
<p>Those were the giants starting wrs for for much of the season due to nicks and manningham missed parts of the season. The only one with a name in the NFL is hagan and even he isn&#8217;t known by most NFL fans</p>
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		<title>By: vmannj</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 02:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@giantsfanlewis, You said you wanted to see Romo use guys off the streets.  Do you mean like...

-Patrick Crayton (7th rd pick)
-Miles Austin (undrafted)
-Sam Hurd (undrafted)
-Laurent Robinson (street free agent)
-Kevin Ogletree (undrafted)

Did you catch the DAL/WSH game in Dallas this year?  Dallas O-line sucked.  No running game.  Dez Bryant and Miles Austin were both hurt.  Romo had WRs that didn&#039;t even know the formations.  And this was one week removed from a broken rib.

I won&#039;t argue with you about what Eli has accomplished.  I&#039;m just saying, if you looked at what Romo did, in similar circumstances, you might have a little more respect for him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@giantsfanlewis, You said you wanted to see Romo use guys off the streets.  Do you mean like&#8230;</p>
<p>-Patrick Crayton (7th rd pick)<br />
-Miles Austin (undrafted)<br />
-Sam Hurd (undrafted)<br />
-Laurent Robinson (street free agent)<br />
-Kevin Ogletree (undrafted)</p>
<p>Did you catch the DAL/WSH game in Dallas this year?  Dallas O-line sucked.  No running game.  Dez Bryant and Miles Austin were both hurt.  Romo had WRs that didn&#8217;t even know the formations.  And this was one week removed from a broken rib.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t argue with you about what Eli has accomplished.  I&#8217;m just saying, if you looked at what Romo did, in similar circumstances, you might have a little more respect for him.</p>
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		<title>By: giantsfanlewis</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 00:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Timid cast isn&#039;t as good as elis.... When have the giants gone 13-3? I&#039;ve done the math. The Dallas defense has been better 3 out of the last 5 years and rushing team has been. Better two of the last 5 years for u stats nerds. Also the giants have more yards because they run more. Eli also has less td passes because the giants run the ball when in the red zone and when up by as little as 3 points. Dallas is throwing all over the place with a 2 td lead and 3 minutes left padding romos stats. 

And to those talking about supporting cast and bringing up last year when eli had 25 picks(brees had 22, but that goes unspoken because its brees) people forget Cruz was .lost before the season, smith was gone before the season, manningham missed at least 8 games, nicks missed at least 8 games, barden was done for the season, hiding was gone for the season. Count that. That&#039;s 6 receivers deep injured and manning still managed 31 tds and a 10-6 record. He didn&#039;t even have guys from his back ups in as his starters, they were using guys off the streets. When Romo can do that we can talk]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timid cast isn&#8217;t as good as elis&#8230;. When have the giants gone 13-3? I&#8217;ve done the math. The Dallas defense has been better 3 out of the last 5 years and rushing team has been. Better two of the last 5 years for u stats nerds. Also the giants have more yards because they run more. Eli also has less td passes because the giants run the ball when in the red zone and when up by as little as 3 points. Dallas is throwing all over the place with a 2 td lead and 3 minutes left padding romos stats. </p>
<p>And to those talking about supporting cast and bringing up last year when eli had 25 picks(brees had 22, but that goes unspoken because its brees) people forget Cruz was .lost before the season, smith was gone before the season, manningham missed at least 8 games, nicks missed at least 8 games, barden was done for the season, hiding was gone for the season. Count that. That&#8217;s 6 receivers deep injured and manning still managed 31 tds and a 10-6 record. He didn&#8217;t even have guys from his back ups in as his starters, they were using guys off the streets. When Romo can do that we can talk</p>
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		<title>By: legends52</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[legends52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 00:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eli manning gets way too much credit, and because of that is overrated to an extent. He and romo are both very good qbs, and they both have strengths and weaknesses. It&#039;s just that I can&#039;t stand the Eli fans who act as if all of Eli&#039;s bad games in the past have never even existed and make him out to be some sort of god as they do with Aaron rodgers and drew brees. All of you hate to admit it, but remember. Pre-Super Bowl XLII you showered the Ole Miss product with boos, you demanded his release, but after that fateful night on February 3rd, 2008 Eli Manning is your up-and-coming HOF QB. Then 2008, Giants have a great year and you stand by your words. 2009 is no different... In only the first five games, and then you go back to your pre-Super Bowl XLII selves. 2010 is a little more of the same. And then the Dallas game of 2011 comes around and Eli helps you win when down, but so did JPP. So did JPP, but all credit goes to Eli.

Tony Romo fans can be the same, too. But as a Romo fan and Cowboy fan, I have faith in my quarterback. Even after Seattle &#039;06, Bufallo &#039;07, and Detroit &#039;11, I still stand by Romo and don&#039;t demand his release. If the cowboys were to win a Super Bowl within the next five years, they would need Tony Romo to do it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eli manning gets way too much credit, and because of that is overrated to an extent. He and romo are both very good qbs, and they both have strengths and weaknesses. It&#8217;s just that I can&#8217;t stand the Eli fans who act as if all of Eli&#8217;s bad games in the past have never even existed and make him out to be some sort of god as they do with Aaron rodgers and drew brees. All of you hate to admit it, but remember. Pre-Super Bowl XLII you showered the Ole Miss product with boos, you demanded his release, but after that fateful night on February 3rd, 2008 Eli Manning is your up-and-coming HOF QB. Then 2008, Giants have a great year and you stand by your words. 2009 is no different&#8230; In only the first five games, and then you go back to your pre-Super Bowl XLII selves. 2010 is a little more of the same. And then the Dallas game of 2011 comes around and Eli helps you win when down, but so did JPP. So did JPP, but all credit goes to Eli.</p>
<p>Tony Romo fans can be the same, too. But as a Romo fan and Cowboy fan, I have faith in my quarterback. Even after Seattle &#8217;06, Bufallo &#8217;07, and Detroit &#8217;11, I still stand by Romo and don&#8217;t demand his release. If the cowboys were to win a Super Bowl within the next five years, they would need Tony Romo to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: paulsmith107</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paulsmith107]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 17:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think lost in this whole who is better is Eli was a number one overal pick who cost the giants rivers merriman and keading. Played college ball in the sec and has a father who was an nfl qb and a brother who also is a qb in the nfl. Then there is tony small time school small time competition playing on the nfl&#039;s biggest stage in Dallas and went as an undrafted free agent. His 4thquarter stats are great his overal stats are great his stats when trailing are equally as good as anyone&#039;s. Difference is romo&#039;s supporting cast isn&#039;t as good as Philly or the giants or green bay]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think lost in this whole who is better is Eli was a number one overal pick who cost the giants rivers merriman and keading. Played college ball in the sec and has a father who was an nfl qb and a brother who also is a qb in the nfl. Then there is tony small time school small time competition playing on the nfl&#8217;s biggest stage in Dallas and went as an undrafted free agent. His 4thquarter stats are great his overal stats are great his stats when trailing are equally as good as anyone&#8217;s. Difference is romo&#8217;s supporting cast isn&#8217;t as good as Philly or the giants or green bay</p>
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		<title>By: rmw1982</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rmw1982]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 16:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Giants fan, I&#039;ve seen every one of Eli&#039;s games since 2004.  He will drive you crazy at times and make decisions, like throwing left handed, that you wouldn&#039;t see from most rookie QBs.  But I don&#039;t think there is another QB in football I&#039;d want in a big game or a big spot.  That performance in the NFC Championship game was a thing of beauty even though his stats weren&#039;t great.  The Giants offensive line was overmatched and he was hit and driven into the ground on virtually every play.  Yet, he still managed to make big time plays.  Not many QBs could have taken that type of beating and not gotten rattled.  That is why there aren&#039;t many QBs I&#039;d want in place of him, and Tony Romo isn&#039;t one of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Giants fan, I&#8217;ve seen every one of Eli&#8217;s games since 2004.  He will drive you crazy at times and make decisions, like throwing left handed, that you wouldn&#8217;t see from most rookie QBs.  But I don&#8217;t think there is another QB in football I&#8217;d want in a big game or a big spot.  That performance in the NFC Championship game was a thing of beauty even though his stats weren&#8217;t great.  The Giants offensive line was overmatched and he was hit and driven into the ground on virtually every play.  Yet, he still managed to make big time plays.  Not many QBs could have taken that type of beating and not gotten rattled.  That is why there aren&#8217;t many QBs I&#8217;d want in place of him, and Tony Romo isn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: mybrunoblog</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 15:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Talk qb ratings, passing yards whatever stat you want. The only stat that matters to me is wins and losses. 
I&#039;m a Giants fans. Romo could throw for 10,000 yards for all I care.
 I just want my team to win Super Bowls.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk qb ratings, passing yards whatever stat you want. The only stat that matters to me is wins and losses.<br />
I&#8217;m a Giants fans. Romo could throw for 10,000 yards for all I care.<br />
 I just want my team to win Super Bowls.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboysallday</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cowboysallday]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 14:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh also didn&#039;t know Eli played defense too on won those super bowls. This whole post is the most ridiculous thing I&#039;ve ever read]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh also didn&#8217;t know Eli played defense too on won those super bowls. This whole post is the most ridiculous thing I&#8217;ve ever read</p>
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		<title>By: cowboysallday</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cowboysallday]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 14:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t know being a holder came into consideration for judging how good a quarterback was you tard]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t know being a holder came into consideration for judging how good a quarterback was you tard</p>
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		<title>By: nashwaakkidd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nashwaakkidd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 14:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the g-men  are the better team/organization. Jerrah the GM (teehee) was in such a rush for that Franchise QB that he  way overpaid and is stuck with Romo aka the chokemeister. loud mouth clown as D-coordinator and Timeout Garrett on the sidelines equals disaster. &#039;boys are a joke from the top down. They will never win SB with Romo as starting QB. Eli is money when it counts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the g-men  are the better team/organization. Jerrah the GM (teehee) was in such a rush for that Franchise QB that he  way overpaid and is stuck with Romo aka the chokemeister. loud mouth clown as D-coordinator and Timeout Garrett on the sidelines equals disaster. &#8216;boys are a joke from the top down. They will never win SB with Romo as starting QB. Eli is money when it counts.</p>
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		<title>By: pixelito</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 14:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They don&#039;t even think Romo is better than Eli in Dallas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t even think Romo is better than Eli in Dallas.</p>
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		<title>By: fissels</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To hell with statistics. Who gets the wins?]]></description>
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		<title>By: adstock1962</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Toomer missed the boat on statistics. I believe Romo s number 2 all time in QB rating behind Steve Young. Anyone focusing on pure statistics would make the same mistake. Young is not number 1 and Romo is not number 2 in all time best QBs. Who would take Young over Montana? Forget Eli, who would take Romo over Peyton and Brady. With the game on the line, winners lift their play and their team regardelss of what their statistics were for the first 58 minutes of the game. Romo does not do that when it matters. Eli set an NFL record for 4th quarter TD passes and is the all-time playoff road victory QB. Analysts need to analyze, not read the stat sheet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toomer missed the boat on statistics. I believe Romo s number 2 all time in QB rating behind Steve Young. Anyone focusing on pure statistics would make the same mistake. Young is not number 1 and Romo is not number 2 in all time best QBs. Who would take Young over Montana? Forget Eli, who would take Romo over Peyton and Brady. With the game on the line, winners lift their play and their team regardelss of what their statistics were for the first 58 minutes of the game. Romo does not do that when it matters. Eli set an NFL record for 4th quarter TD passes and is the all-time playoff road victory QB. Analysts need to analyze, not read the stat sheet.</p>
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		<title>By: skolvikes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 12:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[72% say Eli.    The people have spoken.]]></description>
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		<title>By: zack2482</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 12:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Giants fans, where was Romo drafted? Eli? The bottom line if he played for any other team than the Cowboys, the media would be in love with Romo. Not like I put a lot of stock into Jaws QB rankings, but how many in the top 25 were not drafted?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Giants fans, where was Romo drafted? Eli? The bottom line if he played for any other team than the Cowboys, the media would be in love with Romo. Not like I put a lot of stock into Jaws QB rankings, but how many in the top 25 were not drafted?</p>
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		<title>By: bluefan204</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 12:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[warhol63 says: Jul 7, 2012 12:09 AM 

The Giants have had the better team and Romo has been the better QB.

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This is proof that there is something very wrong with the school systems of this country. Are stats the only thing that matters to you? Do you guys even WATCH THE GAMES, or do you just wake up extra early on Mondays, grab the newspaper, and pleasure yourselves while looking at the box scores/stats?

Toomer said that Romo, STATISTICALLY, is the better QB, and he&#039;s right. When is the last time you saw a game where there were people standing on the sidelines with pencils and paper, adding up the numbers, and when the clock hits 00:00, the QB and/or the team with better stats was declared the winner of the game? Yes, Romo puts up better numbers. Its the rest of his game that leaves him in the dust. The decision making, the mental toughness, the physical toughness, the leadership....in short, all of the intangibles that stat hoors cant comprehend, because they don&#039;t understand anything but numbers and fantasy football wins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>warhol63 says: Jul 7, 2012 12:09 AM </p>
<p>The Giants have had the better team and Romo has been the better QB.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>This is proof that there is something very wrong with the school systems of this country. Are stats the only thing that matters to you? Do you guys even WATCH THE GAMES, or do you just wake up extra early on Mondays, grab the newspaper, and pleasure yourselves while looking at the box scores/stats?</p>
<p>Toomer said that Romo, STATISTICALLY, is the better QB, and he&#8217;s right. When is the last time you saw a game where there were people standing on the sidelines with pencils and paper, adding up the numbers, and when the clock hits 00:00, the QB and/or the team with better stats was declared the winner of the game? Yes, Romo puts up better numbers. Its the rest of his game that leaves him in the dust. The decision making, the mental toughness, the physical toughness, the leadership&#8230;.in short, all of the intangibles that stat hoors cant comprehend, because they don&#8217;t understand anything but numbers and fantasy football wins.</p>
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		<title>By: tdbragg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 09:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its as simple as this . Tony Romo has a grand total of one career playoff win . On the other side of the coin , Eli Manning has won two Super Bowls . I think that pretty much says it all .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its as simple as this . Tony Romo has a grand total of one career playoff win . On the other side of the coin , Eli Manning has won two Super Bowls . I think that pretty much says it all .</p>
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		<title>By: shinywalrus</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 08:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;While relevant for fantasy-football owners, yards and touchdowns and interceptions and completion percentages and passer ratings have no relevance when it comes to winning games.&quot;

Several of those characteristics have very significantly positive correlations with winning games. To say they have no relevance is rhetorically fun, but factually wrong. 

The fact that so many people feel more comfortable relying on &quot;clutch&quot; characteristics, which have been proven time and time again to be complete nonsense, than basic statistics that are flawed but effective, boggles the mind.

Eli Manning is a nice guy and an above average quarterback on a team with a stellar defensive front that has driven the bus to well-earned Super Bowl victories. As a quarterback he&#039;s just not nearly as good as Tony Romo. Why does that matter so much, though? He&#039;s clearly good enough, and with the other weapons the Giants have, that&#039;s all that matters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;While relevant for fantasy-football owners, yards and touchdowns and interceptions and completion percentages and passer ratings have no relevance when it comes to winning games.&#8221;</p>
<p>Several of those characteristics have very significantly positive correlations with winning games. To say they have no relevance is rhetorically fun, but factually wrong. </p>
<p>The fact that so many people feel more comfortable relying on &#8220;clutch&#8221; characteristics, which have been proven time and time again to be complete nonsense, than basic statistics that are flawed but effective, boggles the mind.</p>
<p>Eli Manning is a nice guy and an above average quarterback on a team with a stellar defensive front that has driven the bus to well-earned Super Bowl victories. As a quarterback he&#8217;s just not nearly as good as Tony Romo. Why does that matter so much, though? He&#8217;s clearly good enough, and with the other weapons the Giants have, that&#8217;s all that matters.</p>
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		<title>By: bamboozle99</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 07:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really Toomer ? You just had to dig out some numbers before knowing which one of the two is the better QB? You don&#039;t watch football ? C&#039;mon man!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really Toomer ? You just had to dig out some numbers before knowing which one of the two is the better QB? You don&#8217;t watch football ? C&#8217;mon man!!</p>
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		<title>By: wagon151515</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 07:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;While relevant for fantasy-football owners, yards and touchdowns and interceptions and completion percentages and passer ratings have no relevance when it comes to winning games.&quot;

This has got to be the dumbest thing Ive heard. It is not as dumb as Florio picking the Skins v. Steelers Superbowl matchup from a couple seasons back when the dreadful skins went like 2-14, but it is a close second.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;While relevant for fantasy-football owners, yards and touchdowns and interceptions and completion percentages and passer ratings have no relevance when it comes to winning games.&#8221;</p>
<p>This has got to be the dumbest thing Ive heard. It is not as dumb as Florio picking the Skins v. Steelers Superbowl matchup from a couple seasons back when the dreadful skins went like 2-14, but it is a close second.</p>
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		<title>By: jetsflyinghigh</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 06:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[both times the giants won the super bowl they were the 6 seed in the playoffs. eli can carry you to a 9-7 record and in the playoffs his defense shows up to win the super bowl. neither time was it eli who won the super bowl for the giants. in 07 they held the best offense this league has ever seen to 14 points and this year to 17. it wasn&#039;t like eli lit up the patriots defense, it was more of his defense stopping the pats. i think eli is a great quarterback, but it&#039;s hard to say that the giants wouldn&#039;t have won those two, if not more, had they had romo. and i still to this day think if the giants kept rivers instead of romo we&#039;d be looking at a dynasty. instead we have a team that never wins a playoff game, but when they do they take it all the way. again, much respect to eli, but hard to argue that the qb with the most turnovers in the league the past 3 years (look it up) is better than romo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>both times the giants won the super bowl they were the 6 seed in the playoffs. eli can carry you to a 9-7 record and in the playoffs his defense shows up to win the super bowl. neither time was it eli who won the super bowl for the giants. in 07 they held the best offense this league has ever seen to 14 points and this year to 17. it wasn&#8217;t like eli lit up the patriots defense, it was more of his defense stopping the pats. i think eli is a great quarterback, but it&#8217;s hard to say that the giants wouldn&#8217;t have won those two, if not more, had they had romo. and i still to this day think if the giants kept rivers instead of romo we&#8217;d be looking at a dynasty. instead we have a team that never wins a playoff game, but when they do they take it all the way. again, much respect to eli, but hard to argue that the qb with the most turnovers in the league the past 3 years (look it up) is better than romo.</p>
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		<title>By: greenandgold1972</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 06:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;warhol63 says:
Jul 7, 2012 12:09 AM
The championships have more to do with the overall team not the individual player. The Giants have had the better team and Romo has been the better QB.&quot;
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I agree to that on some level, but Eli and Aaron before him showed that they can win when players around them drop like flies (of course, in their respective SB runs).

Romo is definitely a better regular season QB, but where does that get you? What is the prize? MVP of the league or SB winner? Yes, still bitter about the loss to NYG and admitting Eli has what it takes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;warhol63 says:<br />
Jul 7, 2012 12:09 AM<br />
The championships have more to do with the overall team not the individual player. The Giants have had the better team and Romo has been the better QB.&#8221;<br />
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<p>I agree to that on some level, but Eli and Aaron before him showed that they can win when players around them drop like flies (of course, in their respective SB runs).</p>
<p>Romo is definitely a better regular season QB, but where does that get you? What is the prize? MVP of the league or SB winner? Yes, still bitter about the loss to NYG and admitting Eli has what it takes.</p>
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		<title>By: jucam1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 05:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m an Eagles fan and can&#039;t stand either team, but to compare choke artist, overrated, stat fluffer Romo to Eli (who looks like a moron) who is clutch, a quite leader, and doesn&#039;t have stupid people making excuses for him... is insane!.... I don&#039;t like admitting it, but if you think Romo is better than Eli, you can also make the case that Vick is better than both.... It&#039;s that stupid... Stop already, Tony Romo will be the reason why the Eagles and Giants will continue to own the  NFC East.... Most overrated qb in the NFL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an Eagles fan and can&#8217;t stand either team, but to compare choke artist, overrated, stat fluffer Romo to Eli (who looks like a moron) who is clutch, a quite leader, and doesn&#8217;t have stupid people making excuses for him&#8230; is insane!&#8230;. I don&#8217;t like admitting it, but if you think Romo is better than Eli, you can also make the case that Vick is better than both&#8230;. It&#8217;s that stupid&#8230; Stop already, Tony Romo will be the reason why the Eagles and Giants will continue to own the  NFC East&#8230;. Most overrated qb in the NFL</p>
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		<title>By: undraftedstar</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 05:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Toomer must have a Tumor. Why am I reading this . When its all said and done its how many SB&#039;s you have unless your name is marino.Think about it ,if romo were to retire what would he get remembered for ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toomer must have a Tumor. Why am I reading this . When its all said and done its how many SB&#8217;s you have unless your name is marino.Think about it ,if romo were to retire what would he get remembered for ?</p>
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		<title>By: bosspower</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 05:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How come when Eli wins MVP&#039;s U wanna look at the offense coordinators playcalling? Kevin Killdrive is the only reason Toomer can unrealistically say wat he saying. Eli will march down the field get into the redzone and Killdrive will call 3 running plays and settle for a FG. then at the end of the game when we need a TD they&#039;ll say Eli go win this game. Meanwhile Jason Garrett gets scared when Romo has the ball in late game moments. Romo is a World beater against Washington, Cleveland, Miami, and St Louis. Wat did Romo do against Both NY teams, New England, Detroit, and Philly? I kno wat Eli did versus New England, NYJ, Dallas, Atl, GB, and SF.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come when Eli wins MVP&#8217;s U wanna look at the offense coordinators playcalling? Kevin Killdrive is the only reason Toomer can unrealistically say wat he saying. Eli will march down the field get into the redzone and Killdrive will call 3 running plays and settle for a FG. then at the end of the game when we need a TD they&#8217;ll say Eli go win this game. Meanwhile Jason Garrett gets scared when Romo has the ball in late game moments. Romo is a World beater against Washington, Cleveland, Miami, and St Louis. Wat did Romo do against Both NY teams, New England, Detroit, and Philly? I kno wat Eli did versus New England, NYJ, Dallas, Atl, GB, and SF.</p>
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