Comments on: Josh Gordon lands with the Browns as a second-round pick

By: utteke

utteke — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:44:30 +0000

“I’d be more confident of this if Holmgren had a better record figuring out wide receivers. For a guy all about offense his track record on them isn’t very good.”

Hmmm. Isn’t Tom Heckert the Browns G.M? When he was with Philly didn’t they take Jackson and Maclin. Pretty good wideouts I’d say…

By: jacksprat57

jacksprat57 — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:33:00 +0000

archetypeobscure:

Are those who think that Jerry is the Cowboys GM also dummies?

A thing is what it is, not what someone else chooses to say it is.

By: jacksprat57

jacksprat57 — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:27:50 +0000

Yeah, Carter. Cincinnati fans get extra credit just for their chili alone.

By: jacksprat57

jacksprat57 — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:24:43 +0000

” How many 4-12 seasons does Mike Holmgren get before we start to question whether or not he really knows what he is doing?” –dalucks

If he knows that he can count on patience from ownership, then several “4-12″ seasons is the way to go. Four years of that will yield you (1) 4 elite players, at least three of whom are very likely to be no worse than above average starters, and at least one of whom will probably be an all-pro; (2) 4 blue chip players (top 45-50), who are maybe 70% probabilities to be above average starters; (3) 4 players who are maybe 60% shots at being average starters or quality sub-package guys.

That is a LOT better than what you get drafting, say, 4th, 12th, 15th, 18th.

By: carter54

carter54 — Fri, 13 Jul 2012 00:19:08 +0000

Okay first off for the guy who said we (the browns) can’t run on the steelers or the ravens did you forget what a white boy did to your defense for the past two yrs and this yr we got someone who is stronger and quicker than him (T Rich) second off how in the hell do you know this kid from Baylor was a reach at the 2rd were you there in there in the middle of the draft my guess is you weren’t so shut our mouth. And all you guys at like your team is the best please for you steelers fans try not to get beat by Tim T. Again and ravens fans just worry about how old Ed Reed and Lewis are and if you are going to resign rice. Cincinnati fans I like you nothing bad to say

By: sumnomeaztim

sumnomeaztim — Fri, 13 Jul 2012 00:10:12 +0000

I love it that no one is giving the Browns any love. We’ll surprise a little bit this year but next year this team will be a juggernaut and will roll a lot of good teams into the ground. This is a young team that will take some lumps and have some growing pains this year but watch out for the year after when they start collectively becoming all pro’s on both sides of the ball.

By: sarkent

sarkent — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:51:40 +0000

I’d be more confident of this if Holmgren had a better record figuring out wide receivers. For a guy all about offense his track record on them isn’t very good.

By: eaglesfan290

eaglesfan290 — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:21:37 +0000

Yes, another quality move from the organization that brought you other quality moves like:

1 Firing Bill Belichick
2 Drafting Tim Couch
3 Listing players like Tommy McDonald as a former player and hall of famer in point of fact he was not drafted by the Browns or even had a Pro Bowl year with them.
4 Hiring Romeo Crennel
5 or needing at least 2 full seasons of wins to have enough to get into the playoffs

This is one Dog with a lot of fleas!

Play the Browns = Tune up game

By: wtb1027

wtb1027 — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:10:41 +0000

Browns draft lookin better and better. Can’t wait to beat the steelers twice this year…book it

By: skoobyfl

skoobyfl — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:00:21 +0000

In this instance, the Bills won the draft.

By: urbusted2

urbusted2 — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:29:24 +0000

Go Browns! Great get for a team that has to take chances to get better. Weeden will be the key for this offense. I like all three rookies.

By: klumpofbrownsadness

klumpofbrownsadness — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:14:28 +0000

Considering that there is no “sure thing” in the draft, why not? WR needed help in depth. I am still concerned that WR’s in the NFL take 2 years to develop, but this kid looks like he may have a better time of it. OK, as a life-long Browns fan, I’m always optimistic & I’m happy when all hope of the post-season hasn’t evaporated by Halloween.

By: renhoekk2

renhoekk2 — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:52:23 +0000

If he stayed in college another year and the Browns drafted him next year no one would blink an eye. Everyone loves to dog-pile the bad teams no matter what they do.

By: clu1perceiver

clu1perceiver — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:49:38 +0000

There were 8 players available for the sup. draft; Gordon was the only one selected. That indicates to me that the Browns were in the right place at the right time to pick this player.

By: archetypeobscure

archetypeobscure — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:45:22 +0000

Funny picking out posts from butt-hurt Skins fans, Steelers fans just lurking around to fling mud and idiots that think Holmgren is the Browns GM.

We’re going to find out real quick on Gordon. The Browns FO are already saying they got a bargain and expect him to step right in. Not that there’s much competition.

By: zerodime

zerodime — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:39:57 +0000

Nice Move, now he may have been there in the third round, but he may not have. This kid looks like a stud. If RG3 who just got handed two great free agency acquisitions was pushing for the skins to take him who is to say he’s not great.

Either way the Browns need another strong reciever and we may have just got him. (Or maybe not, but time will tell.)

The Browns missed on 3 key pieces they tried to get this off season, the went up for Richardson to secure the guy they wanted and they may have stepped to high for Gordon, but if he does well, I could possibly care less that we gave up a 2nd rounder.

By: cmdrsmooth

cmdrsmooth — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:27:07 +0000

Nice move. Great risk for a franchise with nothing to lose.

Glad Pats or Eagles didn’t land him. No doubt they would have taken him with the multiple picks they have collected.

By: godofwine330

godofwine330 — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:24:38 +0000

It may have been a reach, but this has been the Browns MO since they have returned. They reach and they get smoked on trades. The ATL one they came out ahead, but every other one in the new era (Butch Davis sending a 2nd rounder to move up one pick while the Ravens gave us a 6th rounder, whom we cut, to move up in 2006 for Ngata, the Jets got Sanchez and we got some broken toys, and we gave up way too much to get Richardson).

We always get got. Hopefully this is different.

By: sparky151

sparky151 — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:21:13 +0000

This is hilarious. Gordon isn’t remotely as good a prospect as Stephen Hill or Reuben Randle, guys they could have had in the 2nd round this season. Instead they reach for a guy nobody else wanted in that round and weaken themselves when they won’t be able to take a better player with that pick next year.

By: lenke08

lenke08 — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:01:21 +0000

The bills were apparently going to take him in the 3rd round and the bills had the first pick in the supp. draft. So the browns had to take him then if they wanted him. They could not wait. The browns had the 2nd pick in the Supp draft

By: skinsfan28

skinsfan28 — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:52:36 +0000

3rd round pick would have done it and Cleveland blinked and wasted getting another starter next year! Super Bowl or nothing this year huh Holmgren??

By: lenke08

lenke08 — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:50:03 +0000

Ok as a Browns fan i am really excited about this. Instead of using a first round pick on a WR next year which they would of been forced into a corner on it they can now focus on the DE position for next year. The thing about Heckert is that he likes to trade picks so if we dont have a 2nd round pick next year we probably will when the draft comes. Good pick, God Bless, And GO BROWNS!!!!!

By: ravenseattheirownpoop

ravenseattheirownpoop — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:49:24 +0000

They gave up the 33rd pick of next years draft for this headcase. It’s no wonder they suck every single year. You browns fans …….I honestly feel for you guys. I’m a steelers fan

By: couldntthinkofaname

couldntthinkofaname — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:46:54 +0000

Supplemental Draft experts come out of their lairs this time of the year, how interesting. I don’t care where the hell they picked him if he’s gonna be a #1 WR for the Browns sometime sooner than later. But all you naysayers who bash the Brownies just for getting up in the morning are just dead weight. Wish you would just shut up for a while or write something that shows you know a little about the building a team.
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Hey, we all wish Browns fans would shut up. But you can’t get everything you want.

Speaking of building a team, how many coaches have you deep-thinkers run out of town?

By: dws123

dws123 — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:39:12 +0000

My guess is the people ridiculing this pick or calling it a reach have never actually watched this kid play. Living in Texas, I get the chance to watch a lot of Baylor and several (VERY) early predictions had Gordon pegged as a top-10 pick in 2013. It’s a bold – and maybe a little desperate – move, but this kid has serious potential to be the Browns’ future number 1 if he can keep his nose clean.

By: 1972wasalongtimeago

1972wasalongtimeago — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:38:40 +0000

Josh Gordon sounds like a kid whose Bar Mitzvah I am going to next month. When we were kids, there weren’t alot of brothers named Josh were there? I want to say I think this is a great development. Lots of brothers named Jonathan these days too.

I’m imagining some 12 year-old kid in Shaker Heights named Josh Gordon being really excited about this acquisition.

By: rockthered1286

rockthered1286 — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:36:55 +0000

3 rookies are the key pieces to this offense. That being said they’ll still finish last in the division again. Yes Cincy did it last yr but Weeden is no Dalton and Gordon is nowhere close to AJ Green. Richardson is good don’t get me wrong but you do NOT run on Baltimore or Pittsburgh, which has always been the way. That and their porous run D did not improve at all this offseason, which means you’ll see the likes of Rice, McCoy, Murray shredding them in 2012. Sorry Brownie fans you’re still at least 2 years from contending.

By: hittinhawks

hittinhawks — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:36:50 +0000

Hey Browns fans haters are gonna hate thats all they have to do, they just troll around talking ish. But from a Seattle fans perspective I like what you guys have done this offseason. John Clayton said if this guy never got into trouble he would have been a top 15 pick, so everyone can say what they want but the fact is no one knows what moves are good or bad until the season is over. Good luck dog pound! Go Hawks/ 12th man!

By: 4gone

4gone — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:33:55 +0000

Time will tell if the kid is worth it or not. Surprised though as a lot of rumors had Packers Wide Receiver James Jones being traded to Cleveland either for McCoy or for a 3rd to 4th round pick. Now Jones is no #1 receiver but a solid 2 or 3. Meaning the Browns could have had a proven receiver for less than what they gave up for Gordon.

By: sj39

sj39 — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:26:51 +0000

Thank you, The rest of the NFL drafting in round two next year.