Comments on: Preseason Power Rankings No. 21: Kansas City Chiefs

By: sullijo1

sullijo1 — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:46:14 +0000

19 years without a playoff win….that’s brutal!!!!!!!

By: dannyreneau

dannyreneau — Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:37:08 +0000

The funny thing is that if Manning had gone with the Chiefs they’de have a top 5 ranking, but with Cassell its 21. Doesn’t sound right to me. Cassell isn’t bad enough to completely ignore the powerhouse that is the rest of this young team.

By: itsmammoth

itsmammoth — Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:14:42 +0000

unbiased Cowboys fan here.

I think they Chiefs can make some noise this year. That running back committee is just too sick!

By: originalsteelcurtain

originalsteelcurtain — Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:40:47 +0000

AFC West is the most balanced division now.

I see any of the four teams cabaple of winning the West…with Oakland being the longest shot.

Here’s my guess:

1) SD – Wacky team seems to play great and horrible within each season. How does Norv still have a job?

2) KC – Nice roster, but Cassell limits their ceiling

3) Den – The D got a lot better last year, the Peyton experiment is a big gamble.

4) Oak – Improved but the roster churn will hurt. Palmer is just a guy.

By: elohim7ks

elohim7ks — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:39:47 +0000

kccheifs10 said it all. We are ranked much higher. With the injuries and all that happened last season if it were based on that soley i can see their point. As a hole, K.C. has the talent of a top ten team, it’s just time to put up, and quiet the mouth of the critic’s and the band wangon riders. Go K.C…

By: lionsfan415

lionsfan415 — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:03:31 +0000

I think the Chiefs will win the AFC west, their roster is solid, i dont think they are a superbowl capable team but they can at least make the playoffs in a pretty weak division.

And delusional Raiders fans, i saw first hand how bad your team was first hand as you blew a big lead to my Lions and Calvin Johnson had his way your little red headed corner backs, your defense is just so bad.

By: blogatron2000

blogatron2000 — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:28:41 +0000

“The biggest question for the Chiefs heading into 2012 is whether last year’s big step backward was mostly the result of bad luck with injuries, or whether this roster needs a fundamental overhaul.”

Fundamental overhaul? You’re kidding right?

Even the most skeptical pundits acknowledge that the Chiefs roster is loaded with quality young talent and capable of competing for the AFC West title.

Matt Cassel has enough protection and weapons this season that he will not be the weakness everyone is assuming him to be. He has proven before that he can perform if he has protection and he will do it again this season.

Possibly the biggest factor no one is talking about that will push this team to the AFC West title is the stability brought to the organization by the ouster of Haley and subsequent promotion of Romeo Crennel. We saw a glimpse of it late last season and as a result I’m really stoked to see what this year is going to bring. Underestimate them all you want right now but be ready to admit you were wrong when the season gets underway.

By: negaduck

negaduck — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 02:59:36 +0000

“Safety Eric Berry, the Chiefs’ most talented defensive player, was lost for the season with a torn ACL in Week 1.”

If their best defensive player is a safety that should tell you all you need to know about what their chances were going into last season.

And I would disagree with the person who said the Steelers would not make playoffs without Mendenhall, Polamalu, and Miller.

By: raidernationkc

raidernationkc — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 02:55:29 +0000

RAIDER NATION gonna win it all! F the chefs!

By: kcrobert10

kcrobert10 — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:54:05 +0000

With all do respect to all u haters the chiefs with all those injuries still almost won the division. Have u heard the interviews with Charles and berry they sound like they are ready to have huge yrs. This is still the yougest roster in the divison with there best yrs still to be the next 3 yrs. While agree cassell was bad last yr the yr before he was a pro bowler. Mark my words the chiefs win the west this yr.

By: odawg31

odawg31 — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:53:12 +0000

KC will be alright as long as their star players dont get lost for the season like last year. This is our Division to lose. Oakland will be last, they just dont have the players to contend with a deep Chiefs roster. (no notable draft picks, or free agents pickups) SD lost a lot of players on both sides of the ball. Denver will test the Chiefs for 1st but with their defense as their anchor, Manning needs some time to adjust with is new team/Fox offense. Also unrealistic to expect him to pickup where he left off after being out for a year, and with a far less talented team on offense.
I like what KC did on the offseason. They added a gang of depth to their team, and filled some major holes with Eric Winston, and Kevin Boss. As long as the Defense develops the way they did with Crennel late last season. An I expect they will with Berry back, Justin Houston complementing Hali, Carr will be missed but routt should do fine as CB#2 behind Flowers. Our D-ling is the biggest question mark on Def. but they will be better with Crennel running the show. We will have a top 5 defense. Our offensive production should increase with Winston helping the O-line protect Cassell, and Charles. Add the Killer B’s Bowe Breaston, Baldwin, and Boss, a healthy Moeaki, and Hillis to change the pace. The explosiveness of DMC McCluster and rookies Devon Wylie and Junior Hemingway. This offense has some scary talent at the skill positions. We even added a QB that I feel can push Cassel and even succeed him. The only other concern is the development of Rodney Hudson and Jon Asamoah on the Offensive line. CHIEFS should take this division! PERIOD

By: blue67ccm

blue67ccm — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 23:36:13 +0000

I’m a lifelong Raiders fan. My son asked me the other day what I expect from the AFC West. I said I thought Kansas City had the most room to improve if Charles and Hillis can give them a solid 1-2 running punch, and, as much as I hated to say it, I thought the Raiders are in for a long season, maybe as low as 4-12. Carson Palmer is not the answer, losing Michael Bush hurts, there were no additions of any magnitude…..

In the end, the Raiders will be below #21 and the Chiefs may hit the postseason. It’ll probably be another year of 9-7 winning this once proud division….

By: holdthebeans

holdthebeans — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 23:16:36 +0000

Don’t forget after starting off 0-3 and the decimating injuries to Berry and Charles Cassel led the Chiefs to four straight wins then he went down. Then Todd Haley had his love affair episode with Palko which sank the ship basically and cost him his job.

KC will have a top ten or better defense (finished 11th last year) and the offense will be much improved with Cassel back and weapons on the outside. Remember in ’10 all KC had was Bowe and they went 10-6 behind an awesome running game. Now we have a better oline and more weapons to burn teams who stack the box.

All I say is look out. Don’t be surprised if these guys win 12 or 13 games. I’m expecting 10-6 because they have a pretty tough schedule but San Diego and Oak lost too many players and didn’t replace em with guys as talented and Denver doesn’t scare me in the least. Peyton won’t have Wayne, Clark, Harrison to toss the rock too and after a couple weeks will be wondering why the hell he decided to go to Denver. Then of course he’ll get his game check and remember. lol

By: giantsfanlewis

giantsfanlewis — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 23:09:04 +0000

I understand that the cheifs were banged up last year but great teams can overcome injuries. The giants won the super bowl with a one of the most injured teams in the NFL.last season. So we will see if the chiefs can prove last year was a fluke but until then they are a talented team that can’t overcome afew bumps

By: sterilizecromartie

sterilizecromartie — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:52:56 +0000

This team was very competitive down the stretch for Romeo. Add a healthy Berry, Charles, Moeaki, and Cassel to that team and they are suddenly very dangerous. I say 8-8 at a minimum, maybe even a playoff berth if they can stay healthy.

By: joerevs300

joerevs300 — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:38:17 +0000

This is about right, I can’t imagine trying to rank the 4 teams in this division. San Diego is simply too hard to figure out. Oakland has hardly been relevant since their SB appearance early last decade. Denver has Manning, sure, but all it’s going to take is one pop to the neck and it’ll be all downhill.

Where to rate the Chiefs? I don’t think the Steelers could have lost Mendenhall, Polamalu and Miller for the season at the same time and make the playoffs. So injuries are definitely a big part of the equation as to why KC missed the playoffs. And if Crennel was such a fantastic HC, what the heck happened in Cleveland then?

I swear, 8-8 could easily win this division again. This reminds me of how the NFC West was a couple years ago. No real standout team. Let’s face it: Whoever wins this division is simply going to be fodder for the higher WC seed anyways, because they all have big enough weaknesses that teams like Pittsburgh, Baltimore and New England (especially) can exploit and take advantage of.

By: shootscuz

shootscuz — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:36:58 +0000

Vila41 you are funny. Reverse the order that you have for the finishing order of the division and you will be on the right track.

By: upby3

upby3 — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:34:20 +0000

I’m a RAIDERS fan and disagree with this ranking. If the queefs O-line keeps Cassel upright and limit injuries to key players….they could very well see some post season action.
The AFC west will be fun to watch this season. The addition of Payton alone makes it a little bit more interesting. Cry me a Rivers is no slouch and Norv is gonna have to let it all hang out. Raiders have a new regime and system. KC is just always a pain in the A_ _
Tell you what KC fans, Raiders play the Donks before you, we’ll soften up Manning and let you finish him off. (joking, I don’t like to see season ending injuries but you know what I mean)

By: istateyourname

istateyourname — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:32:04 +0000

I think the Chiefs should be rated at least at 19.

By: chargerzz

chargerzz — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:29:45 +0000

Chiefs are a joke

By: mushin9

mushin9 — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:25:41 +0000

Your sleeping on them.

But it doesn’t matter what either of us think in July. See you in arrowhead in September and we’ll see.

By: jimmylions

jimmylions — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:23:37 +0000

My friends who are Chiefs fans are all very optimistic about this year, and feel like last year was a fluke – without the injuries they take their division without breaking a sweat.

But – everyone also seems to hate the Dontari Poe draft choice. If Poe really is the bust everyone expects, the question I have is whether the Chiefs have kept up with the improvements made by other teams or fallen behind?

By: acanniv

acanniv — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:12:05 +0000

“Denver has a roster full of holes that even a healthy Manning can’t cover up.”

Examples, please. Just another Raider homer. Denver has better players at like 17 of 22 positions.

By: mmcdan133

mmcdan133 — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 21:41:07 +0000

If Cassel can pull an Alex Smith kind of season off, which he’s done twice before, this is the definition of a dark horse team.

By: mauicat1

mauicat1 — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 21:34:37 +0000

Are all Raider fans drinkin’ from the same bottle of Kool Aid? Look, I don’t really hate the Raiders now. I hated them when they were good, and would like to see them relevant again. But that is three years from now. Your roster has been decimated because of what Al Davis did with his draft picks, and of course the Carson Palmer trade. And what is this silly comment about the Raiders “rolling” the Chiefs? If you mean with a blocked field goal attempt, not exactly getting rolled. The rolling came earlier when the Chiefs blew up Palmer and his backups for six picks, or did you forget that one? Raider fans just don’t know a lot about the real game of football. Look, Chiefs fans know all too well that our season is in the hands of Matt Cassel. If he plays well, not great, we win the division. We have enough talent on both sides of the ball to go 10-6. The Raiders are a four win team. Go back and look at your roster and tell me that they have enough quality players to even be competitive. If they go better than six wins, there otta’ be an investigation.

By: chiefsfan88

chiefsfan88 — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 21:24:44 +0000

This list is a joke we were a field goal away with winning our division with all our injuries fixed our o-line and you think we won’t be better whoever makes this list doesn’t know anything about football

By: yelix

yelix — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 21:00:39 +0000

@hedleykow Dick Vermeil didn’t ruin the Chiefs. The defense was bad when he got there. Carl Peterson ruined it. The Chiefs were in prime position to draft Troy Polamalu in 2003, and Vermeil wanted a defensive player. Instead, King Carl traded the pick to Pittsburgh and drafted Larry Johnson instead.

When you look back at the decisions Carl made, it’s amazing that Schottenheimer and Vermeil had any success.

By: riverhorsey

riverhorsey — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 20:52:47 +0000

“and energized by Crennel late last season”

…right, that’s why the Raiders rolled them at Arrowhead with 1st place in the division on the line.

By: kcchiefs10

kcchiefs10 — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 20:49:58 +0000

You must be crazy! We will easily have a top 5 defense this year. Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey, while not great passrushing threats, have been consistently some of the better run-stoppers in the NFL. If Dontari Poe can assist them in shutting down the opposition’s running game, our LB can provide pass rush. Our LB corps is top five with Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson, Justin Houston, and the winner of the camp battle between Branden Siler and Jovan Belcher. We also have one of the best secondaries in the league with Brandon Flowers, Eric Berry, Kendrick Lewis, and (considering he was playing well before being forced to replace Nnamdi as #1 corner in oakland) Stanford Routt. The big issue last year was an offense that could not score points. Admittedly, Matt Cassell is a question mark. But the reality is that he has more weapons on offense this year than he has had ever before in KC. The return of Jamaal Charles and the addition of Peyton Hillis will keep opponents from keying in on the pass (as they did when our rushing game consisted of Thomas Jones and Jackie Battle). The return of one of his favorite targets, Tony Moeaki, as well as the addition of Kevin Boss should give him some reliable safety valves. Dwayne Bowe can be inconsistent, but he is certainly a top 10 WR in the league. Last year’s first rounder, Jonathan Baldwin, missed 5 games due to a scuffle with Thomas Jones. This injury, as well as the lack of offseason, drastically hurt his ability to be a playmaker at WR last year. The Killer B’s (Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston) along with a solid TE group should give Cassell some options. On top of all this, the addition of Eric Winston on the OL will dramatically improve both the running and passing games. The reality is that Barry Richardson was a sieve last year at the RT position. All this said, Matt Cassell has this year to prove that he has what it takes to be a good NFL QB. The weapons are there, the question for KC is whether Matt Cassell is the answer at QB.

By: 561bengal

561bengal — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 20:36:46 +0000

I can see the Chiefs competing for the West.