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Holmgren, Wolf take pride in turning the Packers around

Mike Holmgren, Ron Wolf AP

Green Bay is Titletown, but it hasn’t always been home to a successful football team. It’s easy to forget now that they’re good again, but there was a long stretch in the 1970s and 1980s when the Packers were one of the worst franchises in football.

Mike Holmgren and Ron Wolf have every reason to be proud about changing that.

Holmgren, the former Packers head coach who is being inducted into the Packers Hall of Fame tonight, chose Wolf, the team’s former general manager, to introduce him. And both men said they’re proud of what they accomplished together, with the Packers making it to the playoffs in six of Holmgren’s seven seasons as head coach, winning one Super Bowl and losing another.

“I just think, how good are the Packers now,” Holmgren told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. “What’s happened since 1992. As opposed to what had happened prior to 1992 for all those years. I just have to look at the stadium and walk through here. I mean it is unbelievable how things have changed. I had a little part of that – a little thing to do with that and I’ll feel good about that.”

Wolf pointed out just how bad the Packers were between the departure of Vince Lombardi after the team won Super Bowl II and the arrival of Mike Holmgren.

“You think about coming here to Green Bay, I mean for 24 years after Lombardi left, there were four winning seasons here,” Wolf said. “And one of those seasons shouldn’t even count – it was the strike year. So just think about that, 24 years, they had three winning seasons. He comes here and never has a losing season.”

Holmgren earned his spot in the Packers’ Hall of Fame.

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26 Responses to “Holmgren, Wolf take pride in turning the Packers around”
  1. benmci says: Jul 21, 2012 8:53 PM

    holmgren takes credit for the sun rising every morning. Ron Wolf was the mastermind. Any other coach in GB at that time would have won 3 Super Bowls not one. Holmgren is so over rated as a coach. He had great assistants that if they did not make it there would have made it else where.

  2. lnfinite says: Jul 21, 2012 8:59 PM

    When I saw this it made me laugh;

    (It’s easy to forget now that they’re good again, but there was a long stretch in the 1970s and 1980s when the Packers were one of the worst franchises in football.)

    As well as the franchise has done recently, so many fans of the olive and mustard struggle to deal with this reality. Other teams has enjoyed their rise and fall but so few franchises suffered such an elongated losing streak besides possibly including the Lions futility.

  3. contra74 says: Jul 21, 2012 9:05 PM

    “And one of those seasons shouldn’t even count – it was the strike year
    —–
    Once again, packers and their fans are masters at revising history to best suit their needs.

  4. patsaintsbroncoscheat says: Jul 21, 2012 9:08 PM

    Benmci sounds like a bitter cleveland fan. It does not matter who you draft or get to coach that crap team. The Browns will never ever amount to a cold pile of dung. Holmgren is underrated if anything. He did put together a hell of a staff and has spawned a very accomplished coaching tree. Did he make a mistake leaving Green Bay? Sure but the guy accomplished quite a bit in Green Bay.

  5. zane21 says: Jul 21, 2012 9:08 PM

    let’s not forget that fella that as the QB for all those victories… you know… the one Packer fans hate now .. I believe his name is Brett something.

  6. brownsfn says: Jul 21, 2012 9:15 PM

    Now just do it Cleveland buddy!! Come on we deserve it!

  7. allnightdwight says: Jul 21, 2012 9:29 PM

    I remember the Vikings absolutely owning the Central, and feeling sorry for the rest of the division. And I still think Minnesota should sign Eller, Page and Marshall. And Paul Krause.

  8. daryllh says: Jul 21, 2012 9:35 PM

    I’d put holmgren number 4 behind Wolf, Favre, and White. Oh yeah…Keith Jackson would be number 5.

  9. sterlingrodgers says: Jul 21, 2012 9:35 PM

    Both those guys deserve a lot of credit for turning things around. I came of age when Bart Starr was ineptly coaching QBs Lynn Dickey and David Whitehurst.

  10. blacknyellablacknyella says: Jul 21, 2012 9:42 PM

    and belichek is a genius since brady arrived, and bill walsh was a genius when montana arrived, and jimmy johnson was a genius when the vikings traded the nfl draft for herschel walker, and phil jackson is the greatest coach of all-time (except for the years without jordan, kobe, or shaq) . . .

  11. jimbo75025 says: Jul 21, 2012 9:45 PM

    benmci says:Jul 21, 2012 8:53 PM
    Any other coach in GB at that time would have won 3 Super Bowls not one. Holmgren is so over rated as a coach. He had great assistants that if they did not make it there would have made it else where.

    ————
    Lets not go too far here-3 SB wins?? Lest you forget that GB was emerging near the end of the Cowboys mid-90′s run. If Jerry Jones had not run off Jimmy Johnson, they would have been a force for much longer. Holmgren did a good job in GB, in Seattle and Cleveland not so much.

  12. thejuddstir says: Jul 21, 2012 10:00 PM

    24 years with 3 winning seasons…….that’s pretty damn bad, LOL. Curious, is that a worse record than even the Saints* had???? Of course Packer fans only want to talk about what happened prior to 1960 (when there was only 6 teams in the league and the NFL wasn’t even considered a major sport) or they will talk about what happened after Wolf, Holmberg and yes…Favre came to the Pack.

  13. MichaelEdits says: Jul 21, 2012 10:05 PM

    Holmgren also trashed Seattle and isn’t doing so well in Cleveland.

  14. fumblenuts says: Jul 21, 2012 10:17 PM

    I love that NFL clip where Holmgren is telling Brett Favre to lay off throwing the rocket balls.

    Without Favre on that team, Holmy wouldn’t have done squat………..fact.

  15. steeltuff says: Jul 21, 2012 10:18 PM

    Talk about blowing your own horn! Except for one good season in Seattle, he wore out his welcome there and he’ll do the same thing in Cleveland, where he’ll be just another Mistake-on-the-Lake.

  16. borisbulldog says: Jul 21, 2012 10:26 PM

    pats wrote-

    The Browns will never ever amount to a cold pile of dung

    ———————————————————

    I’ll bet you a warm pile of dung the Browns finish above the Bun Gals this year!

  17. lbpackfan says: Jul 21, 2012 10:45 PM

    contra74 says:
    Jul 21, 2012 9:05 PM
    “And one of those seasons shouldn’t even count – it was the strike year
    —–
    Once again, packers and their fans are masters at revising history to best suit their needs.
    —————————————

    He is stating one of the 4 winnings seasons was in 1982 when the Pack went 5-3-1…and that shouldn’t really count. Your comment confuses me. Did you think he was referring to another losing season NOT counting?

    As far as Packer fans revisiting history, what is wrong with that? I for one take pride in the tradition and appreciate Super Bowl titles…especially the one from just 2 seasons ago. I understand you’ve never experienced (as a fan of the poor bottom feeding Vikings) a WORLD Championship, and I feel bad about that, Contra (LOL).

  18. veence69 says: Jul 21, 2012 10:59 PM

    Turning them around from what? The Packers have ALWAYS been dominant. This proud franchise has never seen (25 straight years of) losing seasons. This proud franchise has never been so terrible that they were referred to as “Siberia” (because every NFL player dreaded ever being shipped there), this proud franchise has never had to play half of their home games in a larger city because the fan base was too lethargic to watch drive to see them play in a small one..

    These two charlatans better watch out, or the ghost of Vince Lombardi (who was a Packer For Life) will have his revenge.

  19. seattlelgt says: Jul 21, 2012 11:48 PM

    MichaelEdits says: Jul 21, 2012 10:05 PM

    Holmgren also trashed Seattle and isn’t doing so well in Cleveland.

    ————————————–

    Trashed Seattle?

    I don’t consider 5 division titles, 9 playoff game appearances and a Super Bowl berth in 10 seasons, trashed. The Seahawks had only 8 winning seasons in their franchise history prior to Holmgren taking the GM/HC job. We added 7 more after Holmgren arrived.

  20. bobnelsonjr says: Jul 22, 2012 12:37 AM

    Unlike many franchises, The Green Bay Packers embrace their history both good and bad.

    The Green Bay Packers are the most open and honest franchises in the NFL. It is one of the many reasons they are so well liked all around the league and the globe.

    One of they provide some of the best resources to learn about the NFL’s history is the Packers Hall Fame, the Green Bay Packers media guide, and the Green Bay Packers website.

    Did you know:
    The Packers were the first team to travel to games by airplane. The NFL made them take to plane so the entire team would not be on one aircraft in case of a crash.

    Think about some other franchises and how they run from their history. The Rams in Cleveland, the Packers fronting money to keep the Eagle franchise going, the Redskins in Boston, the Packers loaning money to George Halas and the Bears, etc.

    Some expansion franchises have little to no history like the Jaguars and vikings.

  21. randallflagg52 says: Jul 22, 2012 2:41 AM

    Holmgren is a great coach. The hand picked protoge to the G.O.A.T. Bill Walsh, was a famed offensive coordiantor, turned darn near every QB he worked with into gold (seriously look at his track record), and most impressively took two floundering franchises to the SB. Teams that haven’t seen the playoffs in years.

    Give the man some credit. I know he is not a good GM, at all. His track record in Seattle and Cleveland speaks for its self, but he’s done what very few have done as a HC.

  22. iluvbears says: Jul 22, 2012 6:52 AM

    All those years through the 70s & 80s were nice for my team. Whenever I saw the GB games coming up, you could just about count on a win for the home team. I remember when GB & TB used to have the “Battle of the Bays” that ESPN & Chris Berman would make a mockery of twice per season, back when they were both in the NFC Central. It was a joke of a game because neither team was any good at all. TB was usually winless and GB would only have a few to a handful of wins. Ahh, those were the good old days! My team was just about guaranteed four wins every year off of those two lousy teams. Then you throw in the other two teams, neither of which were world beaters, and you could end up with a nice record just from whooping up on the division games every season.

  23. pape27 says: Jul 22, 2012 9:36 AM

    when did Ron Wolf steal Smokey the Bear’s hat?

  24. emperorzero says: Jul 22, 2012 11:44 AM

    They should be proud of the work they accomplished in Green Bay. I still vividly remember the “magical” 5-11 seasons and hoping Anthony Dillwig was the answer at quarterback. I remember bart Starr’s big “announcement” and hoping that he was finally stepping down as coach, only to find out the team had a new slogan, “The Pack is back.” Those were some pretty freakin’ dark years and it’ always reminds me not to take the last 20 years for granted. Ever.

  25. The Prophet says: Jul 22, 2012 11:47 AM

    I think its something too many modern Packer fans take for granted is how this franchise turned around in the early 90′s and hasn’t looked back since. There have been like 2-3 losing seasons in the past 20 years which is remarkable and Packer fans need to remember the everyone responsible for that turnaround and for those that maintained that level of success. And by everyone I mean EVERYONE and not pretending certain people weren’t as responsible as they thought they were before 2008.

  26. axespray says: Jul 23, 2012 2:16 AM

    fumblenuts says:Jul 21, 2012 10:17 PM
    “Without Favre on that team, Holmy wouldn’t have done squat………..fact.”

    Cause taking the Seahawks to a superbowl is squat… and Favre was a total finished product when he arrived, understood the game completely and had no pain pill addiction to overcome or a proneness to throw balls to the other team… The WRs and the Team were super disciplined without The Big Show chewing ‘em out… smh

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