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	<title>Comments on: George Wilson suggests player reps got bad info about appeal process</title>
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		<title>By: bsizemore68</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/23/george-wilson-suggests-player-reps-got-bad-info-about-appeal-process/#comment-1893990</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 04:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What you have with theses over paid babies is this, like the cop in Arizona having the prisoner dress in pink, if you don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t come back. At some point the teams need to get rid of the babies and fools, they are a cancer to any team. They sign the contract, so live with it and stop crying. Bill   p.s. next they will be coming to camp with there baby bottle sucking on the nipple and wanting some one to wipe there ass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you have with theses over paid babies is this, like the cop in Arizona having the prisoner dress in pink, if you don&#8217;t like it, don&#8217;t come back. At some point the teams need to get rid of the babies and fools, they are a cancer to any team. They sign the contract, so live with it and stop crying. Bill   p.s. next they will be coming to camp with there baby bottle sucking on the nipple and wanting some one to wipe there ass.</p>
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		<title>By: mwindle1973</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/23/george-wilson-suggests-player-reps-got-bad-info-about-appeal-process/#comment-1893746</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mwindle1973]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 00:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DUI is a societal problem, Goodell&#039;s level of authority, or nothing else will stop it from happening.  I&#039;ve yet to see hard statistics that there is a greater incident of crime in the NFL than in society as a whole.  THat makes me skeptical that there probably is no more crime.  I would bet that there is less.  There is no way to stop this.  You just must discipline it and minimize it.  Just like in society.  The State doesn&#039;t wait for the bar owner&#039;s association to get the the non driving drunks to convince the others not to drive drunk.  They just make a punish and make it more severe until the problem is reduced and contained.  Again we have no proof that this problem is a growing one or a shrinking one in the NFL.  Need more hard facts before we need to consider the importance of this matter, and then further what or what not to do about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DUI is a societal problem, Goodell&#8217;s level of authority, or nothing else will stop it from happening.  I&#8217;ve yet to see hard statistics that there is a greater incident of crime in the NFL than in society as a whole.  THat makes me skeptical that there probably is no more crime.  I would bet that there is less.  There is no way to stop this.  You just must discipline it and minimize it.  Just like in society.  The State doesn&#8217;t wait for the bar owner&#8217;s association to get the the non driving drunks to convince the others not to drive drunk.  They just make a punish and make it more severe until the problem is reduced and contained.  Again we have no proof that this problem is a growing one or a shrinking one in the NFL.  Need more hard facts before we need to consider the importance of this matter, and then further what or what not to do about it.</p>
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		<title>By: 6thsense79</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[6thsense79]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where are these companies you guys work for that fires a person not for a conviction but rathee an arrest.   Also it&#039;s obvious some of you guys don&#039;t know much about the criminal justice system if you think someone would serve jail time for misdemeanors such as DUI or even domestic violence. For the vast vast majority of people that&#039;s probation. I&#039;ve worked in white collar jobs where people received DUI, simple assualt, and other misdemeanors and still kept their jobs.   It&#039;s harder to get in the company with those convictions but if you&#039;re already in and commit one of those infractions you don&#039;t automatically lose your job.  Especially if you&#039;re not convicted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are these companies you guys work for that fires a person not for a conviction but rathee an arrest.   Also it&#8217;s obvious some of you guys don&#8217;t know much about the criminal justice system if you think someone would serve jail time for misdemeanors such as DUI or even domestic violence. For the vast vast majority of people that&#8217;s probation. I&#8217;ve worked in white collar jobs where people received DUI, simple assualt, and other misdemeanors and still kept their jobs.   It&#8217;s harder to get in the company with those convictions but if you&#8217;re already in and commit one of those infractions you don&#8217;t automatically lose your job.  Especially if you&#8217;re not convicted.</p>
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		<title>By: nflrocks</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/23/george-wilson-suggests-player-reps-got-bad-info-about-appeal-process/#comment-1893665</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nflrocks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I think Goodell having all of the pwers is great!!


If you know the appeal process is not going to get you anywhere or a lighter sentence  then that should be a deterent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I think Goodell having all of the pwers is great!!</p>
<p>If you know the appeal process is not going to get you anywhere or a lighter sentence  then that should be a deterent.</p>
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		<title>By: thekiddone</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/23/george-wilson-suggests-player-reps-got-bad-info-about-appeal-process/#comment-1893657</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thekiddone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t believe players are committing violations based on Goodell power to discipline them.  Regardless of Goodell&#039;s power the violations will continue.  The union could have changed this but they opted to sign off on the deal for the money.  Next time the contract is up let&#039;s see if they hold out for a change in Goodell&#039;s powers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe players are committing violations based on Goodell power to discipline them.  Regardless of Goodell&#8217;s power the violations will continue.  The union could have changed this but they opted to sign off on the deal for the money.  Next time the contract is up let&#8217;s see if they hold out for a change in Goodell&#8217;s powers.</p>
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		<title>By: thejuddstir</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/23/george-wilson-suggests-player-reps-got-bad-info-about-appeal-process/#comment-1893416</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thejuddstir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the average person was jailed for illegal drugs, dwi, spousal abuse, domestic violence, illegal firearms, assault, etc. they would deal with the justice system on an entirely different level than rich athletes. As such, when the courts got done jailing them, taking their drivers license, sending them to drug rehab, etc......they would be left to deal with the consequences of their actions with their employers......or should I say ex-employers. The company I work for is very fair and extremely generous with the compensation they pay me, but they also have a very high standard of expectations for employees behavior and if I rec&#039;d as much as a DWI......I would be in the unemployment line and I&#039;m ok with that. Knowing there is a severe consequence to my actions prevents me from even thinking about driving.........after one beer. I value my job, my career and my family, I can&#039;t imagine doing anything to jeopardize all of it. Warnings, appeals etc.......that&#039;s like giving a 3 year old a &quot;timeout&quot; for acting up and then not enforcing the timeut. Bring the hammer down on all offenders, it is a privelege to play in the NFL and make the money they make, there should be an almost zero tolerance level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the average person was jailed for illegal drugs, dwi, spousal abuse, domestic violence, illegal firearms, assault, etc. they would deal with the justice system on an entirely different level than rich athletes. As such, when the courts got done jailing them, taking their drivers license, sending them to drug rehab, etc&#8230;&#8230;they would be left to deal with the consequences of their actions with their employers&#8230;&#8230;or should I say ex-employers. The company I work for is very fair and extremely generous with the compensation they pay me, but they also have a very high standard of expectations for employees behavior and if I rec&#8217;d as much as a DWI&#8230;&#8230;I would be in the unemployment line and I&#8217;m ok with that. Knowing there is a severe consequence to my actions prevents me from even thinking about driving&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;after one beer. I value my job, my career and my family, I can&#8217;t imagine doing anything to jeopardize all of it. Warnings, appeals etc&#8230;&#8230;.that&#8217;s like giving a 3 year old a &#8220;timeout&#8221; for acting up and then not enforcing the timeut. Bring the hammer down on all offenders, it is a privelege to play in the NFL and make the money they make, there should be an almost zero tolerance level.</p>
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		<title>By: ilovefoolsball</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/23/george-wilson-suggests-player-reps-got-bad-info-about-appeal-process/#comment-1893370</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ilovefoolsball]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have only seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Goodell&#039;s power over the actions of the league. Soon there will be microphones in locker rooms to prevent any other &quot;mean talking&quot; about opposing players or worse, the commissioner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have only seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Goodell&#8217;s power over the actions of the league. Soon there will be microphones in locker rooms to prevent any other &#8220;mean talking&#8221; about opposing players or worse, the commissioner.</p>
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		<title>By: ericbutler7272</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/23/george-wilson-suggests-player-reps-got-bad-info-about-appeal-process/#comment-1893361</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ericbutler7272]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At my job, if I get arrested or get a DUI and I get suspended from work or more likely fired...I do not get any appeal.  Why should a union?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At my job, if I get arrested or get a DUI and I get suspended from work or more likely fired&#8230;I do not get any appeal.  Why should a union?</p>
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		<title>By: gln9213</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/23/george-wilson-suggests-player-reps-got-bad-info-about-appeal-process/#comment-1893356</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gln9213]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does the appeals process have to do with these players doing dumb things and getting arrested or suspended? It has nothing to do with it what so ever..as others have mentioned already if you do something wrong you will pay the price...I learned that from my mother many years ago! Quit hammering on the appeals process and focus on the fact that there are a lot of players in the NFL that are getting in trouble and should know better. Goddell is the right person to handle this, no one else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does the appeals process have to do with these players doing dumb things and getting arrested or suspended? It has nothing to do with it what so ever..as others have mentioned already if you do something wrong you will pay the price&#8230;I learned that from my mother many years ago! Quit hammering on the appeals process and focus on the fact that there are a lot of players in the NFL that are getting in trouble and should know better. Goddell is the right person to handle this, no one else.</p>
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		<title>By: sbh1cats</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/23/george-wilson-suggests-player-reps-got-bad-info-about-appeal-process/#comment-1893355</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sbh1cats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the players had the opportunity to change this in the collective bargaining and they did not...they signed off on everything...so live with it and act your age and stay out of trouble...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the players had the opportunity to change this in the collective bargaining and they did not&#8230;they signed off on everything&#8230;so live with it and act your age and stay out of trouble&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: inspector68</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/23/george-wilson-suggests-player-reps-got-bad-info-about-appeal-process/#comment-1893348</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[inspector68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The players in the NFL are members of our society and as so reflect it.  They are not childish they make mistakes like all of us. A mistake however should not be so detrimental that you loss your way of making a living forever.  Punish yes, but fairly.  The NFLPA did not see this during negotiations and loss sight of the target.  I say D. Smith is the guy who should have advised the players of this condition in the contract.  10 years is a long time to live with this situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The players in the NFL are members of our society and as so reflect it.  They are not childish they make mistakes like all of us. A mistake however should not be so detrimental that you loss your way of making a living forever.  Punish yes, but fairly.  The NFLPA did not see this during negotiations and loss sight of the target.  I say D. Smith is the guy who should have advised the players of this condition in the contract.  10 years is a long time to live with this situation.</p>
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		<title>By: mrpowers88</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/23/george-wilson-suggests-player-reps-got-bad-info-about-appeal-process/#comment-1893336</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mrpowers88]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I may be wrong about this, but isn&#039;t the best way to avoid being in an appeals process (if you like it or not) is to not do anything wrong in the first place?

If the majority of the players are concerned with how a handful of bad eggs are making them look, shouldn&#039;t they have no problem with Goodell punishing them- outside of them being their teammates?  I don&#039;t see any NFC South players coming to the Saints defense right now, but would they say anything if the alleged bounty system happened in their locker room?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be wrong about this, but isn&#8217;t the best way to avoid being in an appeals process (if you like it or not) is to not do anything wrong in the first place?</p>
<p>If the majority of the players are concerned with how a handful of bad eggs are making them look, shouldn&#8217;t they have no problem with Goodell punishing them- outside of them being their teammates?  I don&#8217;t see any NFC South players coming to the Saints defense right now, but would they say anything if the alleged bounty system happened in their locker room?</p>
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		<title>By: thejuddstir</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/23/george-wilson-suggests-player-reps-got-bad-info-about-appeal-process/#comment-1893271</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thejuddstir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When are the players going to grow up and start acting like adults? With all the appeals available, the hand slapping for the first offense, the inability to combine off-field issues with on-field issues as multiple offenses, the NFLPA making sure that their own individual teams cannot, in effect, punish them, etc. etc. ........what more do they want???? My kids were told the rules when they were growing up and if they broke a rule they were punished and I was the judge, jury and executioner and I can honestly say that my kids seldom broke any of the rules and if they did, they never broke the same rule twice. I say the courts should give deference to the CBA and let Goodell do it his way to clean up the league. I&#039;ve seen players on my favorite team get suspended and I&#039;m all for it. Fans have to look the actions of these players as if it were the own kids committing the act, drugs, DWI, assault, domestic abuse, etc. etc. etc.......what would you say to your kids if they were acting this way. The players want to be treated &quot;like adults&quot; but yet act &quot;like kids&quot;, I for one am sick and tired of the pampering of these childish fools.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When are the players going to grow up and start acting like adults? With all the appeals available, the hand slapping for the first offense, the inability to combine off-field issues with on-field issues as multiple offenses, the NFLPA making sure that their own individual teams cannot, in effect, punish them, etc. etc. &#8230;&#8230;..what more do they want???? My kids were told the rules when they were growing up and if they broke a rule they were punished and I was the judge, jury and executioner and I can honestly say that my kids seldom broke any of the rules and if they did, they never broke the same rule twice. I say the courts should give deference to the CBA and let Goodell do it his way to clean up the league. I&#8217;ve seen players on my favorite team get suspended and I&#8217;m all for it. Fans have to look the actions of these players as if it were the own kids committing the act, drugs, DWI, assault, domestic abuse, etc. etc. etc&#8230;&#8230;.what would you say to your kids if they were acting this way. The players want to be treated &#8220;like adults&#8221; but yet act &#8220;like kids&#8221;, I for one am sick and tired of the pampering of these childish fools.</p>
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		<title>By: huskersrock1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huskersrock1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[George Wilson needs to spend less time talking about this and more time talking to players about drinking and driving.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Wilson needs to spend less time talking about this and more time talking to players about drinking and driving.</p>
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		<title>By: bringbacktheflex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bringbacktheflex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand what is so wrong about Goodell&#039;s judgements.  You break the rules you pay a fine.  Did you know you weren&#039;t supposed to lead with your helmet on a tackle?  Yup.  Did you know you weren&#039;t supposed to drive drunk?  Yup.  Did you know you weren&#039;t supposed to take PEDs?  Yup.  Did you know you weren&#039;t supposed to lie about participating in a bounty scheme?  Yup.

What exactly has been so unfair to these millionaires?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand what is so wrong about Goodell&#8217;s judgements.  You break the rules you pay a fine.  Did you know you weren&#8217;t supposed to lead with your helmet on a tackle?  Yup.  Did you know you weren&#8217;t supposed to drive drunk?  Yup.  Did you know you weren&#8217;t supposed to take PEDs?  Yup.  Did you know you weren&#8217;t supposed to lie about participating in a bounty scheme?  Yup.</p>
<p>What exactly has been so unfair to these millionaires?</p>
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		<title>By: sj39</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So that is why Dez beat his mother. Goodell made him do it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So that is why Dez beat his mother. Goodell made him do it.</p>
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