Comments on: Several Bucs fail Schiano’s conditioning test

By: badintent

badintent — Sat, 28 Jul 2012 06:28:33 +0000

All you fools get in the pool. Pull 1000 meters of water ! Swimming is harder than running, so check it out. Than ride a bike for 25K. We’ll see who has game. RBs and DBs should do well, their positions put a premium on conditioning. By the way , this is how I train at 55 ( and I can’t drive 55 ! ) One speed only, fast. !

By: jimmylions

jimmylions — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:29:29 +0000

If I was a Bucs fan I’d love this – conditioning is a big deciding factor in close games.

But … a former Tampa Bay guy named Rod Marinelli was also all about conditioning, and was not a very good head coach (he was the first coach to go 0-16 when he was in charge of Detroit).

I miss the rivalry with Tampa – hope you guys have a good season.

By: progress2011

progress2011 — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:25:40 +0000

Once upon a time, coaches ran the show and players fell in-line or were benched!

Fast forward to the present day, Multi-Millionaire, prima donna, narcissistic athletes know, they can get a coach and/or GM fired, if they don’t like them…ex: Dwight Howard of the Orlando Magic.

This has transcended every sport, including my beloved football. So, unfortunately this coach will meet his demise, as soon as he upsets the superstar of the team and doesn’t win a chip.

Plus football is becoming so regulated, they may as well start playing flag football or allowing women to play in the NFL.

I mean, football is a “Full Contact” sport. If you can’t make contact then whats the point !

That’s like a boxer, who suffers a significant head injury, attempting to sue one of the boxing promoters because they suffer an irreversible brain injury.

My question is, did you not know it was a “Full Contact” sport ! If you didn’t, then you had a brain injury before you started the sport !

By: brenenostler

brenenostler — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:05:38 +0000

16 110-yard sprints with 45 seconds of rest in between is brutal. I did track in high school, and we would do half of that for our workouts with about two minutes of rest in between, and it was still pretty dang hard. You’re dying and gasping for air after the second one if you’re running as fast as you can.

Discipline may or may not work, but let me give you two words: Eric Mangini

By: onermedboxer

onermedboxer — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:03:11 +0000

Everybody passed the conditioning test today! (not counting injured players)

By: granadafan

granadafan — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:01:44 +0000

I’d rather have a hard-nosed and disciplined coach like Harbaugh, Coughlin, or Belichick than a loosey goosey “player’s coach” like many of the Raiders coaches in the last 12 years or so.

By: bucs71

bucs71 — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:00:16 +0000

This is exactly what the team needs. They had no discipline last year and began to wear down and give up in the second half of the games. A team as young as this and undisciplined like this, you have to take them back to the basics. You have to remind them of all the hard work it took to get to this level, and that will be the key to their success.

By: renhoekk2

renhoekk2 — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:50:12 +0000

Makes a lot of sense. There are several times a game where as a player you are required to 110yds 16 times in a row. No doubt being able to do that will improve a teams ability to win. Guys that can only do it 12-13 times have no business being in the NFL.

By: bunjy96

bunjy96 — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:47:06 +0000

Some of you need to learn the facts about these test before you go shooting off your mouth.

1. Almost all, if not all teams run them from HS to the pro’s
2. Players always know in advance if they are going to be run so that they will have plenty of time to prepare.
3. All players don’t run the exact same test. It’s based on position and normally there are three groups with different standards.
4 Players do fail.

It is not a coaches problem but is a player’s problem.
If 98% can pass the test in their group, what does that say about those who fail? Not caring and not a team player, IMO.

Stop babying these millionaires.

By: rajbais

rajbais — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:38:31 +0000

Ironically enough, Albert Haynesworth is no longer on the team.

By: johnwilbanks

johnwilbanks — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:35:02 +0000

College mentality will not hold up in the NFL. Hope he sees that before the team gives up on him…

By: dcfedsalesguy

dcfedsalesguy — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:30:15 +0000

We did this crap in HS. They were called Warrior 100′s. Only the defensive and offensive backs were able to complete it. The linemen threw up. That’s 1,760 yards in a short time period. Meathead mentality and only pits the lighter player against the heavier one. I’m sure there is a “time limit” on how fast you should cover 110 yards. If not, you run again and start over. That is failed to be mentioned. They are probably running 11o yards 20 or more times.

By: kimota23

kimota23 — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:16:41 +0000

I would die sprinting 1 round of 50 yards, but I dont get paid to be a world class athlete, I get paid to sit behind a desk. If you’re expected to be a world class athlete and paid accordingly you better be able to do whatever the coach asks. Suck it up millionaires.

Also Bucs will be a surprise team this year (8 wins at least) and Saints will fall.

By: onermedboxer

onermedboxer — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:07:33 +0000

@11inthebox

Every single player knew they were taking this test, it wasnt a surprise or anything. Dont speak when you dont have confirmation of the words coming out of your mouth (or keyboard)

Schiano made it clear that everyone was made aware of the requirements of the conditioning test – failure falls upon the players and only the players

By: silverdeer

silverdeer — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:07:16 +0000

I seem to recall that there was a grievance filed not too many years ago for something along these lines. Can’t wait for that to rear it’s ugly head again.

By: houndofthebaskervols

houndofthebaskervols — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:55:04 +0000

LOL the Patriots cut a dozen guys that flunked their conditioning test, including Joseph Addai. So I guess that means that nobody will want to play for Belichick and the Pats.

By: darthsaint

darthsaint — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:49:56 +0000

As a Die Hard Saints fan…I am bred to dislike the Bucs. But what NFL fan would not be a fan of this message. While I think there are a lot of holes in the team. If the Glazers actually continue to invest in the players, this coach sounds like he could mold them back into a team that actually matters. I look forward to our games! May the better team always prevail.

By: priestequalsaura

priestequalsaura — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:48:31 +0000

I wanna see a kicker run 16 sprints of 110 yards

By: nje22

nje22 — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:29:40 +0000

That is a brutal test-
I used to die in college when they made us run 330′s around the perimeter of the field- max we’d run?
6
16 110s would be death- particularly with 45 secs which at the beginning would seem ok but at the end would seem like nothing.
so before you bag these dudes try running 5 or 6 yourself full speed

By: awdlmd

awdlmd — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:20:46 +0000

Sounds like Coughlin before Coughlin was a good coach.

By: buccaneer4ever

buccaneer4ever — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:12:23 +0000

If the test was something the guys had known about before camp, they would have all been ready for that specific test. To suggest they aren’t in shape or can’t make it through camp is ridiculous.

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Schiano said in his presser that the team has known about the test since OTAs. They even practiced it before the break. Every player was reminded that the test was coming on multiple occasions.

There’s no excuse for them not being ready, and it wasn’t sprung on them out of nowhere.

By: billsfan1

billsfan1 — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:10:04 +0000

not a Bucs fan or hater but i am really high on Josh Freeman. I hope SHiano gets him turned straight

By: croc90

croc90 — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:02:08 +0000

I wonder if anyone commenting ever played football?

By: Nic

Nic — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:01:26 +0000

11inthebox says: Jul 27, 2012 9:03 AM

For instance, guys who spent the offseason running a few miles a day would be in excellent shape and ready for camp, but they would still have trouble passing a sprint test with a specified recovery time.

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Are you really trying to suggest that “running a few miles a day” will prepare you for an elite level football program (a sport that requires continuous bursts of high intensity movement with specified periods of rest in between)? What Schiano has is a S&C coach who knows what the hell he’s doing. I can’t wait for the season to start.

By: siknutty

siknutty — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:01:02 +0000

This is a pretty hardcore conditioning test for the lineman. Considering that they are sprinting for a total distance of one mile, I think its a tad bit extreme. Lineman rarely have to sprint over 20 yards during the game. Skill players should have no problem passing this..

By: toosharp23

toosharp23 — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:00:31 +0000

Every team has a conditioning test, its not a college thing… Every year people complain Tom Coughlin is to tough but they love him when he wins Superbowls…

Running a few miles a day doesn’t prepare you to be in excellent football shape- it can actually be counterproductive bc you train the arobic system to much and football is much more anaerobic..

Shiano will be very successful, the offense is good to go but it will take another year or 2 to get the defense right..

By: mushin9

mushin9 — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:53:31 +0000

This smells a lot like when KC when from Edwards to Haley. Definitely got the team going in the right direction.

We’ll see if the ending is similar.

By: agcooney108

agcooney108 — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:52:47 +0000

^they’re professional athletes, they’ll get over it. schiano is the man for this job

By: schmitty2

schmitty2 — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:48:48 +0000

Glad to see Schiano laying the hammer down. With that being said it will be a matter of time before the players start whining and wishing Morris was still there

By: jacunn2000

jacunn2000 — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:46:30 +0000

You are supposed to be a professional athlete.. You make A LOT of MONEY!! Pass the fitness test you slobs, and this would not be an issue.