Comments on: Falcons coordinator calls Matt Ryan a Top 10 quarterback

By: JMil_ATL

JMil_ATL — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 01:47:58 +0000

Falcons lost last 3 years to…
Giants – won Super Bowl
Packers – won Super Bowl
Cardinals – lost Super Bowl

I’m I the only one that noticed?

By: 1historian

1historian — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 23:18:35 +0000

There is only one real measure of a top-notch QB – has he led his team to a SB win with under two minutes left in the game?

Roethlisberger, Brady and Eli can all say yes to that question.

By: sportmentary

sportmentary — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:05:53 +0000

He’s not a career top 10 when talking about his playoff performances.

By: rubicon202

rubicon202 — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:47:48 +0000

I say yes but what is being in the top 10 really say? I would say no top 5 but top 10 is like so what?

By: steeelfann

steeelfann — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:27:13 +0000

No way TOP 10. “Maybe” Top 15. “Maybe”

By: ebrownwareagle

ebrownwareagle — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:25:55 +0000

Win a Playoff game first! Get My Falcons out of the first round, onto the Super Bowl with a WIN; And then we will talk. Until then simmer down Coach!

By: paulitik74

paulitik74 — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:20:46 +0000

Matt Ryan, has been top 5 in ESPN’s Total QBR rating, Top 6 in PFF’s rankings, won 43 games in 4 years, including 12 gamewinning drives. He’s got a 2-1 TD INT ratio, and he’s one of the best QBs in the league on 3rd down. He’s coming off a near 30 TD season, with 4K+ yards.

He’s accomplished this, in a system built around Michael Turner a great RB, but completely one dimensional, who adds virtually nothing to the passing game.

He’s accomplished this with poor protection from a weak interior OL, a horrific bust at LT in Sam Baker, talented wide recievers who were handcuffed in a Mike Mularkey scheme that’s route tree had no screen passes, and was comprised of mostly outs and comebacks, with little or no opportunity for YAC.

He accomplished this with one of the worst 3rd down defenses in the league. Consistently at a disadvantage in TOP and field position because the defense can’t get off the field.

Matt Ryan has to do more to prove he’s elite, and that’s win in the playoffs. That said, I have no doubt he is a top 10 QB. He’s far better than the lazy media and the idiots on the comments sections give him credit for.

By: peytonsneck18

peytonsneck18 — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:18:39 +0000

andrew luck is better than matt ryan now!!!

By: marlon45

marlon45 — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:35:00 +0000

Melted Ice, He’s Tied at #35 with Tony Slomo

By: dogluverssuck

dogluverssuck — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:26:36 +0000

Well its been 8 years since Atlanta won a playoff game and that was with Vick. So what does that tell you?

By: dogluverssuck

dogluverssuck — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:24:20 +0000

I haven’t seen too many top 10 qbs that have zero playoff wins and can’t score a single point in the playoffs.

By: robert831

robert831 — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:19:28 +0000

All you idiots can be seriously ranking Big Ben in the top ten. He is the most overrated QB in the league.

By: elibestqbever

elibestqbever — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:18:35 +0000

I’m sorry but some of you guys are clueless. Neither Ryan or Romo are top 10. Ryan is slightly better then Romo but both are in the mid to high teens.
Elite, no question, in any order you want. Eli, Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Peyton. The next group is Big Ben, Rivers, and I would put Flacco in there. All of those guys besides Rivers have won multiple big playoff games besides having huge talent. Rivers is on list because he is that talented.
The next group is now pure talent cause no other qbs have proven tone big time winners. 9- cam newton, I don’t care about it was one year, he is a stud and will be top 5 very soon. 10- stafford, can throw with anyone in nfl. 11- hates me to say it Vick. He’s injury prone but so is Romo, and Vick when healthy is a lot more dangerous. After 11 it’s pretty close with rest of group of Shaub, Cutler, Ryan, Romo, Alex Smith, and a healthy Sam Bradford.

There are a llllllot of talented qbs in NFL, you cant rank by just fantasy numbers. What has always defined that position is ability to win big games. Romo and Ryan are a dime a dozen in the NFL

By: rc33

rc33 — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:08:08 +0000

This reminds me of Rondo saying he believed he was the “best PG in the NBA” a few days ago.
Ryan may or may not be a Top Ten QB but the statement is far from unfathomable.

By: profootballwalk

profootballwalk — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:50:42 +0000

Football Outsiders rates every play of the regular season. They take into account down and distance. They put Ryan at #6, ahead of Rivers, E. Manning and Rothlesberger. Doesn’t sound outrageous to me. Manning stepped it up in the playoffs, but lost a lot of games during the season.And Rivers and Big Ben didn’t do much last year.

By: Buttsnake

Buttsnake — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:48:33 +0000

He’s a top 3 QB. He’s the 3rd best QB in the NFC SOUTH

By: jjviolin1

jjviolin1 — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:40:43 +0000

big ben elite? you guys are crazy. stafford is a top 5 qb.

By: greengayfackers

greengayfackers — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:39:23 +0000

Definitely top 32.

By: gaadr

gaadr — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:34:34 +0000

Wow…a top 10 QB on offense and a Hall-of-Fame DE on defense. Atlanta thinks mighty highly of themselves.

By: fb29

fb29 — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:33:41 +0000

Everyone on this comment string is pretty retarded. The only non-elite part of Ryan’s game is arm strength. He’s elite at avoiding sacks, avoiding turnovers, and pre-snap recognition. Accuracy is probably not elite, but he’s certainly in the top ten in accuracy.

What do you think Tom Brady prefers? An elite offensive line or elite receivers? He has both. Brees also. Rodgers not so much with the o-line but rodgers is on another level

Look at the playoff losses. Last year the giants front four mauled the falcons patchwork o-line. Baker hurt his back mid season, and right guard was a problem all year. McClure is fine but old. That same giants team severely disrupted the rythym of Rodgers and Brady’s offenses and btw won the super bowl last year.

The year before, did anyone watch that game? Rodgers had the single greatest playoff game for a QB in the history of the NFL. Watch the highlights. The throws he made were unreal. No QB could hang with Rodgers that game.

The other playoff loss, Ryan was a rookie. Give me a break.

If Baker is healthy and can be an average LT this season, and Konz can hold down right guard, Ryan will throw for close to 5,000 yards this year.

By: fmwarner

fmwarner — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:11:41 +0000

If his coordinator says he’s “Top 10″, he probably really thinks he’s top 15. He’s gotta pump up his guy a little. You can win with him, but you’re not going to win because of him.

By: bullybirds

bullybirds — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:06:11 +0000

Ah yes Matty Ice,

What’s his away record from the dome?

Has he thrown for more than 200 yds in a playoff game?

Has he won a playoff game?

Why is this a debate on where he stands because he’s slightly above average with ridiculous talent surrounding him.

By: ahostiletakeover

ahostiletakeover — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:05:46 +0000

You asked for PFT Planets’ opinion, here it is: we don’t care where the Falcon’s staff has Ryan rated. As a Ravens fan, I am so damn sick and tired of the media feeling the need to quantify players, many of which have few similarities to one another other than the positions they play. Just like Flacco is the right guy for the Ravens, Ryan is the right guy for the Falcons. It has been said over and over, but this is the ultimate team sport and while its easiest to put the praise or blame on the QB, it is the WRONG opinion in this case. Ryan got ZERO help from his line last year in that playoff game, sorta the same way the Ravens’ o-line almost comp th letely let them down against the Texans in the playoffs, but were saved by their defense and Flacco putting two Td throws right on the money. So there’s your answer: we can’t stop, others from quantifying player rankings Doesn’t mean you have to report it like its “news.” Camp has started everywhere, surely you guys can find better things to run now that there is actually NFL news.

By: wicky888

wicky888 — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:59:35 +0000

As a Falcon fan, I’d say 10-15th is fair and accurate. I can’t wait to see what he does under another OC, unfortunately I have zero faith in Dirk.

By: johnnybuc

johnnybuc — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:57:42 +0000

For the life of me, I can’t understand fans & the media trying say how good this guy is. He’s surrounded with the best offensive weapons in the league and STILL can’t win in the playoffs. The guy reached his peak in 2008 and the only reason his reg. season stats have gotten better each season, is they keep giving him more and better tools. But when it’s money time the guy shrivels into the fetal position. One of these days soon they’ll pull the plug on this guy, but by that time the Falcons window will have slammed shut and it’ll be ANOTHER 45 years before they legitimately talk about a Super Bowl victory!

By: randallflagg52

randallflagg52 — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:56:59 +0000

Flacco outperforms Ryan right now, and that with Torrey Smith, Anquan Boldin and Ed “Big Drop” Dickson, and Cam Cameron running the offense. Not saying those are bad weapons, especially Torrey Smith who will be one heck of a player in this league, but they’re not Roddy White, Julio Jones and Tony G.

Give Flacco (or any other QB not named Matt Ryan) those weapons and they’d be a pro bowler. That talent is wasting away on that team with Ryan as the QB.

By: absolutsaints

absolutsaints — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:53:08 +0000

Shaved Ice > Matty Ice

By: northeastkiller

northeastkiller — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:52:29 +0000

Matty Hype and his noodle arm will never win Atlanta anything. Top 10 QB? Mwahahaha!

By: newmarketmaulers

newmarketmaulers — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:50:58 +0000

I wonder if “Matty-Ice” was self- proclaimed… He doesnt seem that cool.

By: blacknole08

blacknole08 — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:49:38 +0000

Yes he is.

Elite:

Brady
Rodgers
Brees
E. Manning
Roethlisberger
P. Manning
—————–
On the verge:

Rivers
Romo
Newton
Ryan (tie)
Stafford (tie)

That’s your top 10 right there.