Comments on: Colt McCoy says there was no competition at Browns camp

By: slomurk86

slomurk86 — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 19:34:16 +0000

In 13 starts last year: 2,733 yards, 14 TDs, 11 INTs, 57% Comp%, 74.5 QB rating. He had his chance, he stunk up the joint. Colt is as much to blame as anyone else. Here is your reason why he fell so far in the draft. No one wanted him because he cant make NFL throws. Turn the page Colt apologists.

By: techieluddite

techieluddite — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 17:59:38 +0000

“If he doesn’t want out of Cleveland, well, it would be hard to believe McCoy doesn’t want out of Cleveland.”

That is a great quote, Josh.

By: geezohman

geezohman — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:06:46 +0000

with the lousy, and i mean lousy receivers Colt had last year. Whats the data: WOrst drops Receivers in NFL.. Browns.

Oh.. Colt… was #8 in AFC in ‘completions. Aint’ bad considering the first data. No running game.. no line… he scrambled for his life every play.

Then when Harrison knocked the living crap out of him.. the medical team and coaches.. f.. up and put him back in.

Shows you how ‘f..g up Cleveland remains.

Buts with Haslam… that will change. Sports media guys have Browns at #32 and 1-15. Rookies starting with their schedule. WIth ‘Luck’ they’ll be the same as last year.

By: pacodawg

pacodawg — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:02:23 +0000

If colt is so good why was he drafted at the back end of the 3rd round? The pats are known to be the best organization why didn’t they draft him? I don’t care if they have Brady, they could have traded him and stole players like they did with cassell. Colt couldn’t start over Jon Skelton in Arizona

By: jmacphee9

jmacphee9 — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 06:39:07 +0000

starfan79 says:
Aug 6, 2012 6:11 PM
Most accurate Qb in college history.. Arizona should trade kolb straight up for him

im not a cards fan at all,nor am i a colt mccoy or browns fan, but that aint a bad idea at all.

i guarantee he is better then what they have, who honestly ever thought kolb had any skill? i never understood the colt mccoy hate, that team was horrible. you cant even name a receiver on the team. he is a bit short for an nfl qb but his arm and legs are both decent enough to at least get reps, especially over a 28 year old rookie. colt can be a “game manager” qb for a long time, thats a heck of a lot more then other teams can say they have.

By: mrfrostyj

mrfrostyj — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 03:31:35 +0000

All the McCoy fans are right about the kid getting screwed over but that’s what happens when you’re drafted to a team that didn’t want you in the first place (Holmgren is on record saying it was his call to draft McCoy and not Coach Mangini or GM Heckarts)

With that being said if the kid stays in Cleveland he’s guaranteed to get some starter time and prove his worth in the NFL as it’s been a long time since the Browns have seen a QB start all 16 games. Problem is, the AFC North has a recent history of rookie starters having really good 1st seasons (Big Ben, Flacco, Dalton and even McCoy himself) which means that Weeden could be putting up big numbers..

By: thatyankeedude

thatyankeedude — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 03:28:20 +0000

First off browns suck. Second I followed the browns a little last year because of McCoy. He is a good player that if treated like a great player could play at the highest of levels, but the browns wouldn’t let Colt be Colt and that’s why they drafted an old man to replace him.

By: Chris Henry's Wild Ride

Chris Henry's Wild Ride — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 02:35:31 +0000

I wish he would just shut the hell up. He’s no ones idea of an adequate starter, let alone a good one. He’s a tough kid, but he’s just got a weak weak arm. I mean, is being the backup for a guy who has already had shoulder problems really that bad a gig? There’s a reason you got drafted in the 3rd round colt. So shut up, suit up, and hold the damn clipboard.

By: rcali

rcali — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 01:47:20 +0000

Well, if he’s patient, the new Coach, GM, and President may decide they want to go with a “Youth Movement.” Just saying.

By: realfootballfan

realfootballfan — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 01:40:08 +0000

jwrec,

I’m so tired of the Joe Montanna argument to validate physically limited QBs.

Joe didn’t have a gun but he was far from a noodle arm. Rather he was more in the Drew Brees/tom Brady arm strength range, something Colt McCoy will never approach.

Gees, he’s not even in the Jeff Garcia range, which would be the ceiling for such a physically limited QB of his type.

The West Coast offense (or any offense for that matter) doesn’t hide that fact, otherwise similar physically limited QBs like Koy Detmer would have succeeded.

I watched one game in particular last year between the Browns and Raiders where the Browns stayed in the game until the end (despite the Browns offense being hapless all day), even recovering an onside kick with enough time left, and the Raiders defense, which was awful last year, just dared him to beat them with the game on the line and he couldn’t do it.

It was absolutely sad to watch knowing that there was a 99% chance that he couldn’t beat such a lousy defense with a good throw even with the game on the line.

By: coop16

coop16 — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 01:30:37 +0000

A note to Colt: Things change in this league. You may get another chance sooner than you think. If Weeden stinks it up or gets hurt, you may be thrust back into the starter’s position all of a sudden, and at that point you may get your chance to prove that you’ve improved enough to deserve to keep the starting job. Keep working and stay ready. Don’t give up.

By: benlw2

benlw2 — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 01:23:00 +0000

JMil_ATL says:

What about Arizona? Could probably start there.
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You beat me to the punch JMil_ATL. It would give the Cards a way out from Kolb’s contract and give Colt a fresh start. This kid has heart and given time I think he could be a good qb. Kolb would make a decent back up plan in case Weeden goes down. He seems to play better coming off the bench than when he’s named the starter.

By: jh500

jh500 — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 01:12:10 +0000

they arent going to baby a third round pick. He got his shot and he sucked. it was time to move on.

By: JMil_ATL

JMil_ATL — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 00:55:53 +0000

What about Arizona? Could probably start there.

By: dawgpoundmember

dawgpoundmember — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 00:51:03 +0000

The guy was told he would have a clip board in his hands for two years when he was drafted but actually played and got knocked around in the worst offense in the league during that time, and when he was actually scheduled to start, the franchise drafts a 28 year old QB instead of a receiver that was still on the board. I would not be happy either.

By: johntonioholmes

johntonioholmes — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 00:17:39 +0000

If he goes to a real team with west coast style players and an innovative coach, I bet he’d do okay.

By: dsheik

dsheik — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 00:14:47 +0000

Colt was going to be nothing more than a backup at the NFL level. Many of us said this when he entered the league.
Hes a good guy but has limited arm strength. As for his fan club there arent many starters he could beat out and the ones he could the upgrade would be minimal at best. He will made a solid (not good) but solid backup on the right team.

By: hawkforlife

hawkforlife — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 00:07:54 +0000

And this is exactly what I expected from a franchise with Holmgren running the show.

By: yojoemama

yojoemama — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 00:07:01 +0000

Awww pretty boy McCoy crying because he’s a mediocre QB. Sorry dude, but you showed the world what you’re incapable of during the past two years.

By: ppc50

ppc50 — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 00:04:32 +0000

I agree jcg, like my previous post, the Cowboys should get him for a 7th and McGee gone. Orton won’t be around next year

By: bleedgreen

bleedgreen — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:55:54 +0000

I’m tellin ya, Howie Roseman… throw them Kafka and a 6th for McCoy. He’s a better backup than Trent Edwards, Mike Kafka or the kid you just drafted.

By: purplehayseuss

purplehayseuss — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:48:57 +0000

fm31970 says: Aug 6, 2012 5:33 PM

Ted Thompson is smiling right now

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And if McCoy has any brains, he’ll be glued to the phone hoping Thompson calls. Imagine the chance to win it all with the Packers instead of in the catacombs of doom in Cleveland.

Unless, of course, the Seahawks dump Jackson and the Packers snap up Tjack. That would be tasty indeed.

By: spacincasen

spacincasen — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:43:00 +0000

Colt McCoy never had a chance to succeed in Cleveland. Less than a season and a half worth of starts with nothing to work with except a bad offensive line, bad receivers, bad run game. Joe Montana couldn’t save that team from a losing record, let alone a prospect QB like McCoy. Talk about throwing a young QB to the wolves with no help whatsoever… I won’t be feeling sorry for the Browns when absolutely nothing changes for them this year.

By: jcg23

jcg23 — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:29:05 +0000

Dallas should be cutting McGee and signing McCoy.

By: tigerphins

tigerphins — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:23:42 +0000

Respectfully, it’s amazing how many people seem to enjoy backing a mediocre a QB. There’s a reason he wasn’t a high draft pick, and that reason has become quite obvious.

Having all the talent in the world around Colt wont make him a top 10 QB; it will only serve to inhibit the surrounding talent’s production, so please, stop with the excuse making.

By: fearthebengaltiger

fearthebengaltiger — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:20:34 +0000

i remember watching the steelers browns thursday night game

and after the harrison hit,

i thought colt mccoy died,

he got up and finished the game

respect from me

im a bengals fan, and i couldnt agree more….that kid has guts…i wish him the best

By: mattybank

mattybank — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:15:34 +0000

I think if Colt goes elsewhere he will succeed. I still believe in Colt and if any of you ever watched Brian Sipe, there was some similarity. Heckert reached with Weeden that will be proven soon. I still hate how H&H conducted the draft. They seemed to panic at every pick. Trade up one spot for Richardson, reach for Weeden, reach for Swartz. Could have had each much lower. Give McCoy a Rice and Taylor and a running game and you can see that he would be very serviceable. Jimmy Haslem are you reading? Dont make these mistakes that are obvious to the common fan.

By: j0esixpack

j0esixpack — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:15:24 +0000

Mangini weakened the Browns by letting his QB competition drag on far too long – which undermined team preparedness as well as the confidence of his QBs.

Colt McCoy had all season to compete and show he was a starting caliber QB.

The fact that they drafted Weeden in the 1st round shows he failed to win the job.

It makes sense to name Weeden the starter until he proves he cannot do it.

If McCoy were smart he’d accept the challenge and vow to play better.

By: ytownie

ytownie — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:15:15 +0000

Colt never earned his starting job. It was handed to him after Delhomme and Walace got injured. Colt didn’t you realize after the Browns tried to get RGIII and then drafted Weeden in the first round that your days were numbered?

By: pmars64

pmars64 — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:06:11 +0000

I’m a Browns fan and while I feel for the kid, he is simply limited in his abilities. As best, the Browns would get a 6th or 7th rounder for him in a trade. While it’s true he didn’t have much help last season, he created a lot problems, too. Watching him live, it was astonishing to me that, in about 30 passes, he threw to his left ONCE the entire game. He threw 5 yard dump offs 95% of the time. Yes, this was due, in part, to poor WR play, but sometimes you have to give them a chance to make a play, even if they are covered. Maybe the WR could out-work the defender. Greg Little is big enough to. Or try to get a flag for interference. They didn’t have much to lose in many of their games so why not take the risk. In the immortal words of Dr McCoy to Spock, “Do Something!” But, wow, it was BAD. Maybe he didn’t throw deep because HE CAN’T. His throws float like a butterfly…

I, for one, am glad they drafted Weeden. Maybe he’ll be another Babe Laufenberg – rocket arm, but a lot of echoing in that head – but he can’t be worse than what we saw last year. At least defenses won’t crowd the line of scrimmage as much as they did last year because of Weeden’s arm. And, this alone, will help Richardson.

I’m not expecting miracles this year. A last place finish is almost a certainty with all the youth on the roster. But this team should be better and, by the end of the season, much better than they’ve been in some time.