I’ve never posted on here, but its annoying reading ignorant comments

Aug 8, 2012 7:36 PM
IMO an incentive is something like a bonus for a good clean hit, PD, sack, INT, etc… A bounty is pay for injuring others with hits to the head, chin, ankles, or ACLs.”

If they were making hits to the head, chin etc. they would be fined by Goodell much more than what the bounty would have been so why would they risk it. Your twisted logic doesn’t make sense. If our defense made illegal hits they were fined but over the last three years on the game tapes there was little activity to support the NFLs allegations. Our defense was one of the least penalized in the league.

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1) That was in reference to Williams’ tapes.

2) I’m sure some players risk illegal hits if they think they can get away with it. It’s the same logic as taking banned substances. Why would players take them and risk suspension if they didn’t think they could get away with it? Most don’t but some do.

3) Simply not being penalized for the hits doesn’t mean they didn’t happen or NOR didn’t try to make them. This whole issue isn’t about actual hits made or injuries caused. It’s about setting up system that encouraged them.

4) Why would Williams and Peyton not dispute NFL’s findings?

Stop being a homer and look at things objectively.

Saints fans, I like your team, but Williams on tape talking about gunning for certain players body parts? You can’t do that. Especially when the league’s already REPEATEDLY told you about it. Especially when they are being sued by former players for NOT taking precautions against

We all know there’s perception and reality. While the reality there was no rewarding players for hits intended to maim opposition players, the perception is there. Perception is how juries rule against someone in a court of law. The NFL had to do something, lest it be seen as culpable.

Distinction or not, both are illegal under NFL rules.

I agree that it might not be the “right thing” but it’s what the rules currently are.

Maybe an incentive doesn’t merit a year long suspension, though.
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Distinction is very important. Goodell is not allowed to suspend players for pay for performance.

He is having to use “contract detrimental” which the judge referred his interpretation to as “borderline ridicules” and “slicing the salami thin”

I fully believe there is a difference between bounties and incentives.

That guy who rag dolled McMahon back in the day, now THAT was a bounty hit. The Saints were playing tough, physical football- no more, no less.

Go RAIDERS!!

“Isn’t an “Incentive” program also against the rules in this salary cap system though? So he’s admitting to breaking the rules.”

Do you not understand that he knows that? Think about it.

This has been going on for months, there is absolutely no way that he does appreciate that by speaking out he is admitting he knew of a practice that is against the rules.

It’s like Fujita said — if the NFL wants to punish them for what they actually did that is one thing. It’s an entirely different thing to exagerrate and lie simply to justify harsher punishments.

I don’t know why people don’t get that.

Isn’t an “Incentive” program also against the rules in this salary cap system though? So he’s admitting to breaking the rules.
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People were not suspended a year because of a salary cap violation, which other teams have been fined for. They were suspended a year because of the hysteria over charges of paying to injure opposing players, for which the NFL has provided zero evidence.

Sorry, the NFL does not get to say they are suspending players and coaches for a horrific “pay to injure” system (one that it took the league three years to decide was bad), then when the evidence doesn’t hold up, say “Oh, we meant it was for a salary cap violation and for not cooperating with the investigation.” Baloney. And I hope the Federal Judge says so.

Money for taking another player off the field on a stretcher is a bounty .
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You’re right. Too bad that never actually happened.