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Giants respond to Clay Matthews

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When Cowboys owner Jerry Jones made some comments about beating up on the Giants at a pep rally, there wasn’t much of a response from the Giants players.

Packers linebacker Clay Matthews‘ assertion that the Giants didn’t beat the Packers in their playoff tilt last year hasn’t been met with the same silence. Two members of the Giants responded to Matthews during conversations with the media on Wednesday and, as you’d probably imagine, neither of them share Matthews’ view of how the game went down.

“When they fumbled the ball, I think it was us that stripped it out. We sacked them. I think it was us who beat their O-linemen and got to Rodgers,” defensive end Justin Tuck said, via Ralph Vacchiano of the New York Daily News. “So I don’t think they just Ole’d everything and gave us the game. I think they were trying to win.

“If that’s what Clay thinks, so be it,” guard Chris Snee said, also via Vacchiano. “I have a brand new ring and we earned every bit of it.”

There have been a million variations on Matthews’ comments over the years as players try to rationalize losses as being about their failures instead of the other side’s successes. They rarely sound all that convincing and Matthews’ riff is not an exception to that general rule. You can’t replay the game on the field so there really isn’t much point in replaying it via words.

Especially when you’ve got a chance to prove you’re the better team on the field in a few weeks.

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59 Responses to “Giants respond to Clay Matthews”
  1. cantgetenoughwp says: Aug 8, 2012 2:01 PM

    Sore loser. Clay just admit that the Giants were the better team that day.

  2. cantgetenoughwp says: Aug 8, 2012 2:03 PM

    Also the Giants almost lost to the refs that day, not the Packers!

  3. hulkhogansays says: Aug 8, 2012 2:05 PM

    The Giants are a mediocre franchise with a criminal owner. The Redskins are gonna slap the blue off their helmets as they sweep NY, again brother.

  4. norseyapper says: Aug 8, 2012 2:06 PM

    It seems as though the Packers mind set is that they were so great that they should have been unbeatable, therefore losing was purely a fluke.

    Anyone who was paying attention last year saw that GB’s hideous defense was allowing way to much while the offensive side of the ball’s weak running game left them one dimensional. No doubt that one dinension was about as good as it gets but the league seemed to be catching on.

    The Giants meanwhile were the hottest team going at that point and their win was not at all surprising.

  5. wipackman1265 says: Aug 8, 2012 2:09 PM

    Giants are so easy to excite ……… You won the Super Bowl and you DESERVED to win it

    You were the BEST TEAM in the Tourney !!!

    Congrats

    Now go get you shine box

  6. packrulzm says: Aug 8, 2012 2:10 PM

    Cripes! I’m a life long Packer fan and also a Matthews fan, but due, seriously? The Giants beat you. Period. There’s no discussion. They were by far and away the better team that day. Talk like this just makes you look like a sore loser. Give some credit where credit is due man!

  7. nygmenruleny says: Aug 8, 2012 2:13 PM

    The Giants may be a mediocre franchise with a criminal owner. And the Deadskins may sweep the Giants again this year. But the ‘skins will still be dead last in the division and watching the rest of the NFC East in the playoffs from their couches at home like they usually do. It is just a law of nature.

  8. zaggs says: Aug 8, 2012 2:14 PM

    Fact is Green Bay didn’t lose by 1 score, they lost by 3. They had 2 drives that led to touchdowns which were kept alive because of horrendous calls by the refs. They got beat and if the refs had played fair it would have been a far bigger beat down.

  9. cmb79 says: Aug 8, 2012 2:15 PM

    I’m always up for a little extra spice going into games. So keep yappin’, boys!

  10. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Aug 8, 2012 2:15 PM

    From now on, I’ll refer to The Claymaker as The Excusemaker.

  11. eldritchblast says: Aug 8, 2012 2:18 PM

    ^ When was the last time the Redskins were in the playoffs? When was t he last time they were in the Super Bowl?

    Great you swept the Giants last year, look where it got you, sitting at the top of the draft board… like usual.

    Look at the big picture, moon pie.

  12. mjs2012 says: Aug 8, 2012 2:27 PM

    The Packers are in the Giants heads. Love it! Too bad it won’t matter when the Packers go to the Super Bowl while the Giants miss the playoffs.

  13. justintuckrule says: Aug 8, 2012 2:28 PM

    @hh – If 2 SBs in 5 years makes us mediocre, what does 20 years of absolute irrelevancy make the Skins?
    ——
    @Clay Matthews – Take away the gift overturn Jennings fumble and the textbook Osi hit on Rodgers that turned a 4th and forever into a gift 1st down, and the Pack likely lose 40 something to 10. If that’s what you call Pack beating themselves, I think your statement is the understatement of the year. If anything, the Pack creamed themselves.

  14. jgreiner9 says: Aug 8, 2012 2:31 PM

    Sweep and then watch NYG win another super bowl from home?

  15. kingcarlbanks says: Aug 8, 2012 2:33 PM

    @hulkhogansays

    Mediocre? Last I checked the 4skins are the consyant bottom feeder franchise in the East. I cant even remember seeing your sorry franchise in the plauoffs lately. Must suck knowing the Ravens are the most relevant team in the area. Btw, the only claim to fame your owner has, is overpaying for players anf coaches whp don’t perform. Now kiss the ring….brother!

  16. nygiants2286 says: Aug 8, 2012 2:37 PM

    hulkhogansays,

    Would you rather be the Giants, who lost twice the Redskins but went on to win the SUPER BOWL, or the Redskins.

    The fact that you would even write that shows your level of incompetence (newsflash – its pretty high)

    Regular Season 2012
    Redskins 2 Giants 0

    Post Season 2012
    Redskins – playing golf while fan base whimpers
    Giants – Super Bowl champs

  17. distracted9 says: Aug 8, 2012 2:41 PM

    Im with Clay.. Packers played down to the competition and it showed.. Giants are a mediocre team at best with a great D-line. Their front four are unbelievable, but what else do they have..? Eli? lol..aww shucks.

  18. hulkhogansays says: Aug 8, 2012 2:46 PM

    Giant fans can’t handle the cold, hard truth brother. LOL @ Raven fan butting in….the fact that you had to bring your team up reeks of pure pathetic attention. You guys will NEVER Surpasse the rich history of the Washington Redskins in the DMV. The Redskins in their worst years are more loved than the Ratbirds brother!

  19. east96st says: Aug 8, 2012 2:54 PM

    Hulk is certainly getting testy! Well, it’s understandable. School starts soon and the jump to Middle School is a stressful one. You’ll be okay, sweetie. Mommy will make sure the school doesn’t let those bullies lock into your gym locker – too often.

  20. dbones750 says: Aug 8, 2012 2:59 PM

    Who even cares about that game? When you think Eli Manning, the first two plays that come to mind are – pass to Mario Manningham on SB winning drive and pass to David Tyree on SB winning drive. 2 superbowl appearances, 2 4th quarter winning drives, 2 SB MVPs. That’s what matters boys and girls….and “brother”s.

    Win the superbowl or shut up. To all the teams who didn’t win the superbowl (any year) – you didn’t lose it, someone else won it.

  21. bjamesa says: Aug 8, 2012 3:05 PM

    As a Packers fan, I’m glad my players are sore losers. That means that it means something to them, even months later.

    As a football fan, however, I can’t take anything away from the Giants. They were the better team that day.

    Now, did the Packers team that I watched 15 out of the previous 16 games show up? No. Was there outside distraction because a member of the team/family died? Yeah.

    But that’s football…

    One last time: Congrats to the Giants and their fans on another great Super Bowl run. However, in about 7 hours the Packers kick off their opening preseason game and last season will finally be over. We’re coming back for that belt… See you Week 11!

  22. neauxgeaux44 says: Aug 8, 2012 3:08 PM

    Gnats should be thankful they did not have to play the Saints…fact…we would have won easily…losing to the 49queerers was unacceptable…redemption this year…Saints win it all.fact…

  23. billobrienschindimple says: Aug 8, 2012 3:13 PM

    It is the American athlete ego. Rarely do you hear an athlete, all the way down to youth level, give credit to the opposition.

  24. giantsfan2104 says: Aug 8, 2012 3:13 PM

    mjs2012 says:
    Aug 8, 2012 2:27 PM
    The Packers are in the Giants heads. Love it! Too bad it won’t matter when the Packers go to the Super Bowl while the Giants miss the playoffs.
    ==================================

    I think you’ve got the first part backwards. Last spring Matthews talked about not watching the Super Bowl, and how he would never get over the loss to NYG. Then, about 2 months ago, McCarthy used the “We beat ourselves” line. Then, Greg Jennings chimed in, but he actually said “We got beat by a better team”. Now Matthews is whining, again. On the other hand, the Giants haven’t said much about the Pack since the playoffs.

    It looks like the Giants are in the Packers’ heads.

  25. rikker12 says: Aug 8, 2012 3:16 PM

    Giant fans need to settle down….What Mathews is saying, is that there defense beat themselves…. Miss takles, blown assignments in coverage, that hail mary…..These are all mistakes that are mental and will be fixed. I’m sure there have been a few Giant loses last year where you thought the Giants beat themselves…
    Doesn’t matter that they played the Giants…It could’ve been against anyone…..Don’t worry Giant fans, you’ll be yelling and sceaming for Coughlins head by mid-season….8-8 season at best…

  26. sportmentary says: Aug 8, 2012 3:27 PM

    Clay Mathews is an idiot and fits in well with their annoying fans make outlandish comments and claims. NYG didn’t just beat Green Bay, they obliterated.

  27. ace0415 says: Aug 8, 2012 3:27 PM

    I love all the excuses from players (mathews) and fans …..be it redskin, saints, 49er or whoever…..the fact is the Giants just gave us, their fans, best end of season and playoff run any fan could ask for. We ended the Jets, Cowboys, Falcons, Packers, 49ers and Patriots seasons….it doesn’t get much sweeter than that. They are a first class organization with a first class coach and general manager….they are not media hungry like the Jets….or Cowboys….they are not a circus they keep there mouths shut and play football….especially when it counts. They not only beat the Packers, who had the energy of Lambeaux Field and a lot of help from them refs…they kicked the packers asses so Clay might want to rewatch the game film again.

  28. itsnotfootballanymore says: Aug 8, 2012 3:28 PM

    Another pearl of wisdom from the clueless Hulk Hogan.

  29. minnesconsin says: Aug 8, 2012 3:29 PM

    the only thing that matters is that the Giants won the game, everything else is pure speculation. Did the Packers play as well as they could have? Of course not — but they have themselves to blame for that and I’d really rather not listen to the coach or stud OLB talk about beating themselves. Just move on — you lost, and now it’s time to move forward and try to do better next year.

    As good as the Packers look, I’m not nearly as overconfident in that team, and I’m not assuming/expecting them to win 13+ games every year. They better be taking one game at a time or they could end up sitting at 5-5 or 6-4 when they travel to NY to face a Giants team that’s gonna have a pretty big chip on their shoulder.

    Games vs SF, Chi, NO, @ Hou, @ Det in the first part of their schedule. Every one of those games could go either way.

  30. Great Caesar's Ghost says: Aug 8, 2012 3:36 PM

    Well, even if you beat yourselves, the other team gets the ‘W’. So that’s how that works. The only time the Packers can simultaneously win and lose is Family Night.

  31. roadtrip3500 says: Aug 8, 2012 3:40 PM

    distracted9 says: Aug 8, 2012 2:41 PM

    Im with Clay.. Packers played down to the competition and it showed.. Giants are a mediocre team at best with a great D-line. Their front four are unbelievable, but what else do they have..? Eli? lol..aww shucks.
    ———————————
    Eli took out the Pack and Brett Favre in January 2008 on his way to his first Super Bowl win.

    Eli = undefeated in Green Bay in January.

  32. 49erstim says: Aug 8, 2012 3:42 PM

    Did I just see a Saints fan chime in about sore losers? Wow. You guys sure accepted that SF loss and subsequent loss of your manhood to the Commish VERY well! Your tears are a sweet elixir neauxgeaux. Pansy. lol

    That Pack loss to KC was foreshadowing huh?

  33. chi01town says: Aug 8, 2012 3:49 PM

    Greenbay cant beat the Giants on the moon & under a sandbox. I cant wait for that game this season. an somebody tell Clay I said …….
    Hold the Cheese

  34. bluestree says: Aug 8, 2012 4:10 PM

    The Giants players have handled all the hindsight others have dished out like the champs they are. Their fans, not so much.

  35. realfootballfan says: Aug 8, 2012 4:26 PM

    The Packers are feeling themselves a little bit too much. Maybe they forgot that they barely beat the Giants in the regular season before getting trucked with the refs gift wrapping a couple of calls for them in the playoffs.

    It sounds familiar like the Falcons that were crying the same way after the Packers did exactly the same thing to them in the 2011 playoffs after a close contested regular season game between the two.

    That bad defense isn’t getting you any closer to another championship, I don’t care how many 400 yard passing games you put up in the regular season.

    until they can get a better pass rush than they shoed last year and prove that their secondary isn’t completely shot (worst pass defense in the history of the NFL), the Patriots recent perennial pretender status with the high powered offense/weak defense status is in your future.

    The Saints with all of their problems, made their defense better on paper with every bit as good an offense with a much better rushing attack, the Giants match up great with you, and the 49ers defense is the best in the NFL. Not to mention, the Bears and Lions are going to be more than a handful for the Packers, too.

    If I were packer fans, I’d advise my team to get back to grinding like they did when they were the “almost didn’t make the playoffs team that barely beat the Eagles in the first round of the playoffs” and not this snotty bunch who think they “deserved” to win because they were 15-1 in an increasingly meaningless regular season.

  36. titletownphipsi says: Aug 8, 2012 4:33 PM

    If the Giants honestly think they beat the Packers at their best I want to know what they are smoking and where I can get some. The Packers played their absolute worst game possible and the Giants played above and beyond themselves. The Giants were the better team on that day. But if you replayed that game 9 more times, the Packers win easily. It was a fluke, the Giants should be glad with the win, they earned it. It will be proved a fluke this next year when Green Bay makes a title run and the Giants struggle to get past 8 wins.

  37. titletownphipsi says: Aug 8, 2012 4:46 PM

    Wow being a Packers fan I used to think the dumbest fan base was the Cowboys or Vikings. But congratulations Giants, you have run away with that from the comments on this post. If you seriously think that the Giants are a better team you need to get off the drugs and get some help. The Giants were the better team on that day, and that day only. Without Brandon Jacobs forcing teams to load the box, Eli Manning is a mediocre QB at best. Is there any wonder when Jacobs was out for a year that he threw 22 ints? With as difficult schedule the Giants have this next year, and them being too overconfident I give them 6 wins next year, maybe 8 it Eli can prove he is not as overrated as he truly is. Packers were the best team last year, and now are more hungry than ever. With a full off season to implement Capers Defense, there will not be blown coverage like this past year. The Packers are on their way to a dynasty. The Giants need to enjoy their one spot in the sun while they can, its going to be a while before their next playoff campaign.

  38. njgiant1982 says: Aug 8, 2012 4:57 PM

    “titletownphipsi says:
    Aug 8, 2012 4:33 PM
    If the Giants honestly think they beat the Packers at their best I want to know what they are smoking and where I can get some. The Packers played their absolute worst game possible and the Giants played above and beyond themselves. The Giants were the better team on that day. But if you replayed that game 9 more times, the Packers win easily. It was a fluke, the Giants should be glad with the win, they earned it. It will be proved a fluke this next year when Green Bay makes a title run and the Giants struggle to get past 8 wins.”

    “If…fluke… earned” ??? Welcome to the NFL, sports and competitive anything you baby. They did beat them and it’s the Packers who have to hang their heads in shame for not beating the Gints. Giants were not 100% healthy either, so play the “if” game all you want. Packer’s pull a Romo, deal with it. So smoke that, honestly.

  39. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Aug 8, 2012 5:13 PM

    He’s just messing with their heads. He’s a genius.

  40. bearsoxass says: Aug 8, 2012 5:30 PM

    Giants are a lucky overrated team.

  41. omegaichiban says: Aug 8, 2012 5:45 PM

    Whoever cast the “no-hands” spell on the Pack receivers did their thing. (8 drops) But the G-Men did win so congratulations. Run it back this year.

  42. kvh59 says: Aug 8, 2012 6:08 PM

    Classy green bay fans….first off if we struggle this year it’s cause we have the hardest schedule in the NFL…you know since we are the champs! Secondly if you really think our D line is the only good thing we have going for us then you don’t understand football. Hakeem nicks and victor Cruz is one of the best young receiver corps in the NFL. Eli proved he was elite last year and I will ride “awe shucks”all the way to another super bowl victory and MVP. honestly our only weak units are te, rb, cb and o line. Our te coach, Mike pope, has made starters out of lesser players than Bennett. If David Wilson is everything he was in college we will be fine at rb. but I guess your favorite teams don’t have any holes to fill, grow up.

  43. dwhitehurst says: Aug 8, 2012 6:17 PM

    Let’s be fair here. Clay Matthews was not completely wrong in his comment. He was half right, or at least 25% right ;) The Packers did beat themselves in that game. Yet, the other 75% of the truth was that the Giants did beat the Packers. Interestingly enough, while the Packer’s Defense was a deficiency throughout last season and in the Giants game, in this game it was more about the Giants Defense putting a whoopin on the Packer’s Offense, particularly the Giants D-Line, which dominated the Packer’s O-Line throughout the game, especially on the left-side. Plus, the Giants did so without having to blitz much. As a Packers fan, even with them shoring up the defense this year, there is still a weak link: The left side of their Offensive Line, particularly Left Tackle. Newhouse is not reliable, and they have no proven backup (Sherrod still recovering from broken leg and did not really look that good before he broke it.) This was what showed up in the loss to the Giants and it is what might stand in their way from contending this year. So Clay Matthews again is at least partly right: The Packers did beat themselves in the sense of not having an O-Line to contend with a great D-Line like the Giants.

  44. berniemadoffsides says: Aug 8, 2012 6:46 PM

    We beat the Atlanta Falcons, who were red-hot entering the playoffs.

    We beat the 15-1 Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers at Lambeau.

    We beat the 13-3 49ers, who were incredible last year @ San Fran.

    Then we beat the 13-3 Patriots.

    I don’t think I have to say much else. The Giants went out and played their hearts out when it matters most and won the Super Bowl. Enough sour grapes already, Matthews…

  45. bigbluefan1 says: Aug 8, 2012 7:37 PM

    The best team is the one that gets the trophy in Feb.
    So that being said the best team is the Giants.

    Now I know they were lucky they suck they this they that Eli is dumb and now I see that the owner is a criminal. Oh yeah wont make the playoffs this year and the foreskins beat them twice.

    All that being said who won two Super Bowls in the last 5 years?
    Who was the MVP in both.
    Who out play who in Green Bay in both title runs?
    And while Callie mathews says the d lost the game for the packers I recall two scores on bad calls and more dropped balls then I can count.

    Will the Giants be in the playoff this year? who knows maybe maybe not. Same can be said for 31 other teams you do not know till after all the games are played.

    Did the foreskins beat the Giants twice? Yes they did and still the Giants went on and won it all.

    Is Eli dumb? Yeah dumb like a fox.

    As far as the Mara family goes they are NFL royality if not for the Mara’s the NFL would be much smaller in size but Wellington Mara was the one who came up with the idea to share the TV money evenly something that cost the NY Giants money as they are in the biggest TV market and had the most to gain if it stayed the way it was.

    If not for Wellington doing so would there be teams in GB TB NO Jacksonville Indy and the rest of the fly over states? The Giants would have the best players as they would be the ones with the cash to pay them.

    Last but far from least watch on national TV as the banner is raised over Metlife Stadium as the Champion NY Giants defend the title that 31 other teams did not win. Do I want them to win it all again sure but would be happier then most of you if it took four years to do it over again.

  46. bjamesa says: Aug 8, 2012 7:38 PM

    I love that Giants fans claim they own the Packers. How soon you’ve forgotten week 16 of the 2010 season when the Giants came to Lambeau and Aaron Rodgers torched them for 404 yards and 4 touchdowns in a de facto playoff game that the Packers won 45-17.

    Again, the Giants got hot and the Packers went cold… it happens. The Pack are going to stomp the GMen later this year and all you’ll be left holding onto is what happened in January. Savor it, because once the season kicks off and the Giants fade from relevancy, it’s all you’ll have.

  47. waltercamper says: Aug 8, 2012 8:28 PM

    The 49’ers were the best team we played all year (this coming from a Giants fan who appreciates defense…and that is a GREAT defense in SF!) They would have clocked Green Bay if we lost that game. Clay should worry about them, because there’s no way they beat the Niners in the playoffs. That is a MAN’S team over there!

  48. horn420 says: Aug 8, 2012 8:45 PM

    You dont say that if the team that beats you wins tge Superbowl

  49. bosspower says: Aug 8, 2012 8:47 PM

    Arent The Packers on the Giants Schedule? Oh Yeah The Packers win in regualar season meetings, but The Gmen goes to Lambeau in the Playoffs and is undefeated. How about eliminating Eliminating the Giants at home when U get a chance. I think Clay is just trying to ease his own fan base because I kno for a fact that they are scared of the Giants in big games. They have Pictures of Eli dressed like Rambo on a Packers fan site. The Packer fans Voted that they would rather play Atl, or Detroit over the Giants in that Divisional playoff game. Packer fans stop acting like ur whole fanbase is not scared to see the Giants when all the Chips is on the line. A healthy Giants team equals a repeat.

  50. vltrophy14 says: Aug 8, 2012 9:05 PM

    Hey Walter cramper. Last year Rodgers was 6 TDs shy of throwing 3X as many TDs as Smith. 49ers D is the biggest reason they got so far. Their QB sucks! He threw 17 TDs. The Packers did get some favorable calls but this is a new year. Of I knew u I’d put $$$ on the 49ers vs Packers game. Packers by at least 17 or better. Trust me the NYGs will lose to us this yr. Packers will make sure. It’s at MetLife Stadium so the Giants better be ready. I predict Eli gets sacked at least 3X.

  51. numberonesaintsfan says: Aug 8, 2012 9:13 PM

    Not a Giants fan, but they played their best ball when it mattered most. The Giants couldn’t have played any better than they did.The Packers on the other hand,could have played a lot better.NY won fair and square,but if Green Bay played the way they are capable of playing,Packers win.Same thing with the Patriots(BOTH Superbowls)Eli is more lucky than good(or should I say “Elite”).

  52. bkostela says: Aug 8, 2012 10:56 PM

    bjamesa says:
    Aug 8, 2012 7:38 PM
    I love that Giants fans claim they own the Packers. How soon you’ve forgotten week 16 of the 2010 season when the Giants came to Lambeau and Aaron Rodgers torched them for 404 yards and 4 touchdowns in a de facto playoff game that the Packers won 45-17.

    Again, the Giants got hot and the Packers went cold… it happens. The Pack are going to stomp the GMen later this year and all you’ll be left holding onto is what happened in January. Savor it, because once the season kicks off and the Giants fade from relevancy, it’s all you’ll have.

    ———————————————————–

    “de facto” playoff game? i’m pretty sure giants fans have gotten over a week 16 loss (besides, if anything still stung giants fans from that year it would have been the loss at home to the eagles). the fans claiming the giants “own” the packers are likely referring to the ACTUAL playoff games played over the past 5 years between the two clubs. both at lambeau… both giants victories… one in overtime… one convincingly in regulation.

  53. gcsuk says: Aug 8, 2012 11:20 PM

    titletownphipsi says:
    Aug 8, 2012 4:46 PM
    The Giants were the better team on that day, and that day only. Without Brandon Jacobs forcing teams to load the box, Eli Manning is a mediocre QB at best.
    ———————————————————–

    I don’t know WHY I’m responding to this idiot, but here goes. The Giants were not just the better team “on that day”. You may have forgotten they won their way into the playoffs by beating the Jets, Cowboys (twice), and then Atlanta, GB, SF, and the Patriots in the post season. So there were many days they were “the better team”.

    And Brandon Jacobs forcing teams to load the box? You mean the same Brandon Jacobs who had 152 carries over the course of the year for a DAUNTING 3.8 YPC (75th in the NFL)? That Brandon Jacobs? The same one who was half the tandem that had the 32nd ranked running game in the NFL? In case you can’t figure that out, that’s the WORST rushing attack in the league. Yep, I’m sure teams were stacking the box to stop him. Why focus on Victor Cruz and Hakeem Nicks when Brandon Jacobs is on the field?

    You, sir, are an idiot.

  54. aahhyeahsucka says: Aug 9, 2012 12:56 AM

    oh and I can’t wait for the Packers to have their assess handed to them by the Niners this year too BTW.

  55. titletownphipsi says: Aug 9, 2012 5:56 PM

    1 year does not Make Eli Manning elite, he is the top of the next group down. The Elite QB’s in the league are Rodgers, Brady, and Brees in that order. Eli Manning is the dividing line between Elite and decent QB’s. He is better than Flacco, Ryan, and Rivers. But there is a BIG fall off after Brees to the next QB which falls to Manning by default.
    And the Giants will struggle this year because they have a hard schedule and you can’t get lucky and fall backwards into the playoffs with a schedule like that, which is what you were able to do this last year.

  56. titletownphipsi says: Aug 9, 2012 6:02 PM

    The Giants beating the Packers in that game was like someone beating Muhammad Ali today, as opposed to him at his best. If the Packers had played like they had done in the 15 wins during the regular season the Giants get ran off the field. But it is the playoffs, all it takes is that one in a million times for your opponent to play like crap and you to have a decent game. Enjoy this win giants, Packers are going to be good for the long hall, and I don’t see you having as lucky of a season ever again.

  57. Mr. Wright 212 says: Aug 9, 2012 6:20 PM

    My GOD you Packers fans and Giants haters are some pathetic specimen.

  58. northernwisc says: Aug 10, 2012 10:03 AM

    Just remember – the Giants didn’t beat the Packers, Obama did…….

  59. bigbluefan1 says: Aug 10, 2012 2:00 PM

    Clay and the rest of the Packers fans are blessed as they have plenty of cheese to go with all this Whine

    We won you lost and that is all that there is to it
    Eli has played better then the packers best twice in the playoff sending Brett off with a Giant Loss and showing erin what greatness is.

    The Giant were the hottest team in the playoff’s once again

    Title town you have as many super bowl wins as the Giants so does that make East Rutherford NJ Title Town?

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