Comments on: Elway: Peyton is two Super Bowls away from being the best ever

By: denverdougz

denverdougz — Thu, 16 Aug 2012 22:03:13 +0000

To veryone who is saying he had a super star supporting cast already present in Indo, how did HArrison do the 2 years before they drafted Manning? And how about Reggie Wayne without Peyton? He made those guys the super stars they are/were.

By: ghjjf

ghjjf — Thu, 16 Aug 2012 03:30:40 +0000

If you’re going by championships the best ever has to be Otto Graham, 10 straight championship appearances and won 7 of them. Manning has only been to 2, and the only one he won was because Rex Grossman was the QB for the other team.

By: bamboozle99

bamboozle99 — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:31:15 +0000

If you’re gonna name someone “best ever”, make sure he’s good in the clutch. I don’t think Peyton has proved that he is, yet.

By: greenandgoldgirl

greenandgoldgirl — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:33:13 +0000

You are all prisoners of the moment. Greatest QB in NFL history is Bart Starr. Peyton is going to need to win 5 more championships if he wants to even be mentioned in the same conversation as Bart Starr. Starr is the ONLY QB to win 5 championships. If winning championships is the barometer then Starr is the greatest ever and will be until someone wins 4 in a row and 6 total.

By: commonsensedude

commonsensedude — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:06:44 +0000

John Elway was only two Super Bowls from having a 0-5 record in Super Bowl Games. Would that have made him the worst ever? Of course not. Football is a team game and therefore the number of NFL Championships should not be the criteria for determining who is the “best ever.”

By: The Prophet

The Prophet — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 05:24:44 +0000

What a completely unfair statement to make. So how did he come up with “2″ as the magic number? Why because he won 2 in Denver maybe? And to also make that statement when it would be next to impossible for Peyton to win 2 in Denver. The guy might not even play 2 years. And by saying that, he’s also making it clear that Peyton is NOT the greatest of all time, and to say “two Super Bowls away” is saying he’s not even close, considering there are at least 10 QB’s if you have them TWO rings they’d be the greatest. Elway is still the biggest jerk in NFL history.

By: randallflagg52

randallflagg52 — Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:05:31 +0000

John Unitas is still hands down the best. Peyton is probably around 5 or 6 on the list.

By: golonger

golonger — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:49:51 +0000

..and Bart Starr sucks….sorry….he’s the third best QB in Packers history!

By: golonger

golonger — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:47:13 +0000

The cold hard facts about Manning are Black and white….chokes in the clutch and always has…he has never been the best WHILE he has played. Given that logic, he cannot possibly be the best ever…nuff said. He is a good QB who has been given everything he has ever wanted around him and still couldnt get it done. The one year he DID, it was riding the coat-tails of his defense. If not for his defense rising up and stuffing the Ravens in the playoffs…Manning would have NO SBs.and an even MORE mediocre playoff record than he has (below 500).and would be unanimously heralded as very good (flawed) QB…which he is!

By: golonger

golonger — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:42:23 +0000

Manning will NEVER be close to being the best ever….chokes in the clutch…over-rated.

But…he does have the chance to prove everyone wrong. If he takes the Broncos to a SB win, he has proven the doubters…if not, he will always be remembered as good…but not great….he has his chance…let’s see if he can get it done with another team…

By: gizzmonic

gizzmonic — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 14:52:38 +0000

Too many hits to the head for Elway… He somehow thinks three is bigger than four. Two more for Eli, and he might be in the conversation with Montana and Bradshaw. Lets set the bar at 5, wich is more than 4 or 3

By: bobzilla1001

bobzilla1001 — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 05:55:43 +0000

Three words for Mr. Elway: TERRY PAXTON BRADSHAW.
Bradshaw was the best-ever big-game quarterback of the Super Bowl era. He threw fourth-quarter TD passes in each of the four Super Bowls he played, and he threw four TD passes in 35-31 fight-to-the-finish in Super Bowl 13 against the defending Super Bowl champion Cowboys.
Bradshaw is in the Hall for one reason and one reason only: The bigger the game, the better he played…

By: 1historian

1historian — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 12:30:55 +0000

With under 2 minutes to go in the 1989 Super Bowl the Cincinnati Bengals scored and went ahead of the 49ers.

As the story goes, the offense was standing on the sidelines and someone said “we’ve just won the SuperBowl”.

Chris Collinsworth, at the time the WR for the Bengals said “don’t be so sure – have you seen who is playing quarterback for the 49ers?”

By: joetoronto

joetoronto — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:01:10 +0000

wozzmann1955 says: Aug 9, 2012 9:42 PM

It got quiet quick here,hmmmmm………
wonder why……
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Because you missed the boat by replying too late.

Jackass.

By: aahhyeahsucka

aahhyeahsucka — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 05:27:48 +0000

Even without Elway’s delusions, Peyton is one of the greatest. But you are no Joe Montana sir.

By: db3300

db3300 — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:50:51 +0000

“As much as I enjoy Peyton..no way he does..to much parody in the NFL in to short of a time frame..”

There’s too much parity also.

By: wozzmann1955

wozzmann1955 — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:42:01 +0000

It got quiet quick here,hmmmmm………
wonder why……

By: wozzmann1955

wozzmann1955 — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:40:36 +0000

Those who thumb down the Cold Hard Football facts about the greatest QB to play the game,put your facts down so we can all see them.Put your thumbs where yer mouth is

By: hatesycophants

hatesycophants — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:15:06 +0000

Hey wozzman1955, please take your medication. You’re Michele Bachmann-crazy.

By: chi01town

chi01town — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 00:35:16 +0000

This is the NFL an that stands for… Not For Long when you just had 4 surgeries on your neck. Even if your name is Payton Manning you gone get hit… So Payton dont have long too win those two superbowls

By: wozzmann1955

wozzmann1955 — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 00:01:22 +0000

The rings say it all: Starr is the only quarterback in history who has one for every finger on his throwing hand.
THE COLD HARD FACTS!!!!!!!

By: wozzmann1955

wozzmann1955 — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:58:15 +0000

And, if you want drama, don’t forget that Starr scored the winning TD in the Ice Bowl, probably the most famous game in NFL history. Sure, Montana led his team 92 yards for the game-winning score in Super Bowl XXIII. But he did it on a 68-degree night in Miami. Turn down the thermostat by 86 degrees (it was 18-below in the fourth quarter of the Ice Bowl) and you begin to approximate the conditions under which the greatest quarterback in NFL history operated during his greatest moment in the sport’s greatest game.

By: wozzmann1955

wozzmann1955 — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:50:48 +0000

There’s a cause and effect here, folks: NFL’s greatest dynasty, only winners of three-straight title games, and a record 9-1 postseason mark. And there, underlying it all, is Starr with his postseason passing records. The two are intricately intertwined.
Come on Bozo’s,argue with the COLD HARD FACTS

By: wozzmann1955

wozzmann1955 — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:48:07 +0000

Six times in the 1960s, Starr surpassed 8.2 YPA for a season. To put that into context, Peyton Manning has surpassed 8.2 YPA just twice in his brilliant 10-year career.

By: wozzmann1955

wozzmann1955 — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:46:52 +0000

When it comes to a combination of leadership, victories, big-game performances and statistical supremacy nobody – NOBODY – put together a more total package than Bart Starr, the greatest quarterback in NFL history.

By: wozzmann1955

wozzmann1955 — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:45:20 +0000

That’s right. Bart Starr. The greatest quarterback in the history of the game.
Sit down and take notes

By: souldogdave

souldogdave — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:05:55 +0000

Like I said earlier(deleted), BRADY IS BETTER.And Montana was the best.

By: raiderapologist

raiderapologist — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:49:26 +0000

bgsusteelers says: Aug 9, 2012 1:32 PM

Yeah, so were/are a lot of other people. Hell, I’m two more Super Bowls away from being in the Hall of Fame.
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Maybe not. Jim Plunkett has two, and he’s not in.

By: ahonui06

ahonui06 — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:19:34 +0000

Montana would still be the best.

4 for 4 in Super Bowls, 3x SB MVP, 2x NFL MVP

Beat NFL MVP Ken Anderson in the 1st, Trounced Marino in 2nd by 22 points, clutch 4th qtr gw drive in the 3rd, and obliterated Elway’s Broncos by 45 (largest margin victory in any SB) in the 4th.

By: weedman8693

weedman8693 — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:13:52 +0000

So much haters, hope peyton just trys to survive out there.. Go broncos