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Giants punt returner called for holding while he was returning punt


Outside of giving up a touchdown on Jacksonville’s first possession, it’s been a pretty good night for the Giants.

They forced two turnovers of the Jags starting offense, saw D.J. Ware run well in his attempt to become the alternative to Ahmad Bradshaw and didn’t see any key players end up writhing on the turf with injury. They also saw their two rookies from Virginia Tech impress on returns. David Wilson had a long kickoff return and Jayron Hosley broke a couple of decent punt returns, one of which was called back by a holding penalty.

The strange thing about the penalty was that the replacement officials working the game called it on Hosley. To the naked eye, it seemed that Hosley was too busy returning the punt to hold anybody. It looked that way on replays as well and it would appear that the officials meant to call the penalty on Michael Coe instead.

Coe did look like he held on the play, so this is more amusing than a case of the replacements ruining the integrity of the game. Still, these are the kinds of mistakes that need to get ironed out if these officials are going to work actual games this season.

And, lest anyone get too carried away by Hosley, he muffed a punt inside his own five to set up a Jags touchdown just before the end of the first half.

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29 Responses to “Giants punt returner called for holding while he was returning punt”
  1. thevikes14 says: Aug 10, 2012 9:17 PM

    come on now, like the regular refs never got a number wrong. You have no idea how hard it is to get a number of a player who fouled. Are you going to point out every little mistake these guys make? the whole touchback at the 4 was one things, but a wrong number is typical

  2. vbe2 says: Aug 10, 2012 9:17 PM

    You all are getting ridiculous with all of this. The regular refs have done all of these things themselves.

    Are you getting some kind of kickback from the NFLRA or something?

    Will you be ‘reporting’ on all of the regular refs little mistakes once they’re back?

  3. hrmlss says: Aug 10, 2012 9:18 PM

    Um so what. The “pro” refs get the numbers wrong all the time. They’re like weathermen “predicting” the weather when it comes to giving the offenders number. I remember a game where the “offender” was a number retired 20 years before. All they had to do was look at the ring of honor above to see they were idiots!

  4. swagjag says: Aug 10, 2012 9:18 PM

    Not nearly as concerning as Aaron Ross getting called for a facemask while driving into Eli’s back. Goodell cannot pretend this isnt a problem. These replacement refs are destroying the quality of he game. Fix it Rog.

  5. hulkhogansays says: Aug 10, 2012 9:18 PM

    Real life Madden Video Game glitch brother.

  6. benh999 says: Aug 10, 2012 9:18 PM

    Also the tye of mistake (wrong number) the “best if the best” make regularly during the regular season.

  7. giantsfanlewis says: Aug 10, 2012 9:26 PM

    This is a complete none issue. Most likely a mis-read of number. The only reason this is a story is because its a replacement. You know how many times a week on ESPN they talk about in a joking manner of the NFL refs mis-reading a number in the heat of the moment. Stop acting like this is any worse then the refs we had

  8. giantsfanlewis says: Aug 10, 2012 9:26 PM

    This is a complete none issue. Most likely a mis-read of number. The only reason this is a story is because its a replacement. You know how many times a week on ESPN they talk about in a joking manner of the NFL refs mis-reading a number in the heat of the moment. Stop acting like this is any worse then the refs we had

  9. nycoccet says: Aug 10, 2012 9:26 PM

    I personally hope the real refs are back soon but they make mistakes like this all the time. Its a common thing in the nfl for the refs to call the penalty on the wrong player and its funny that this is a story bc if it was the real refs it wouldnt even be mentioned.

  10. profootballwalk says: Aug 10, 2012 9:31 PM

    As if the regular officials never call a wrong number. It happens multiple times every year for every team. Stop being a union pimp and just report the news.

  11. jagsfanugh says: Aug 10, 2012 9:32 PM

    So last year when this happened it was the refs getting back in the grove but now it’s replacement officials bad mistakes? Ok i get it, over analyzed this year for reasons of being replacements.

  12. vman0626 says: Aug 10, 2012 9:34 PM

    No, no, no. This is a potential disaster and the league knows it. The starters are going at 65-75% right now and the pace / speed of the game will only intensify. These guys are trying their best and will improve somewhat but they are repeatedly behind the play and out of position. It is abundantly clear very few who post on here actually know the game, have ever played the game beyond pop warner, and never performed as a ref, linesman or field judge.

  13. cpbean818 says: Aug 10, 2012 9:36 PM

    I can’t even begin to count how many times the ‘regular’ refs would call a penalty on a player number that wasn’t even on the roster. *yawn* next story please

  14. atwatercrushesokoye says: Aug 10, 2012 9:40 PM

    Yes cause I’ve never seen a regular ref call a penalty on a number that’s not even in use with the team they call it on….

    I could see being super critical if they weren’t making mistakes that the regular refs make all of the time.

  15. kokoskmr says: Aug 10, 2012 9:42 PM

    Does Hosley play for Arizona?

  16. nygmenruleny says: Aug 10, 2012 9:49 PM

    Second game I’ve watched with replacement refs and I have to say, they are really bad. Poor performance, missing obvious calls, and making bad calls. Way worse than regular refs. Time to end the lockout and get them back to work.

  17. shawshankreception says: Aug 10, 2012 9:53 PM

    Besides this blunder, the replacement refs missed a call in the end zone that would resulted in a touchdown pass from Eli (the receiver couldn’t get his other hand up because he was being held).

    Also, one ref called roughing the passer (grabbing the back of Eli’s helmet), which seemed to be a figment of his imagination.

  18. folkcrusader says: Aug 10, 2012 9:54 PM

    Yeah, well the super bowl crew called holding on a QB that tackled a defender returning his own intercepted pass. At least this one was just a wrong number.

  19. gammynomnom says: Aug 10, 2012 10:06 PM

    John Mara demands all his division rivals lose draft picks and cap space because of this.

    Goodell to comply.

  20. rodeoclownclint24 says: Aug 10, 2012 10:32 PM

    really the only horrible call so far was in the buffaloe game on the punt besides that everything they have done happens all the this website getting a cut of the real refs cut or what to make this a headline article is just dumb it happens in nearly every game…

  21. irishnativeson says: Aug 10, 2012 10:42 PM

    I don’t care what profession you want to pick. Only the 150 or so guys that do it are the only ones capable of doing it when there are thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of people doing it on a regular basis? I’m not buying it. Sure there’s going to be a learning curve, glaring mistakes will be made, but don’t try to act like some of the NFLRA members in good standing aren’t replaceable by some of these replacements. Not to go too political but as a side note, I have never been, nor is it ever likely that I will ever belong to a union but as citizens of the United States of America I respect every member of the NFLRA to collectively bargin with their employer, especially considering the NFL’s anti-trust exemption status.

  22. vbe2 says: Aug 10, 2012 11:06 PM

    You know what’s funny? If these were the regular refs and if these ‘mistakes’ were happening, the head of officials would be out there defending them and saying that they were doing the right things.

  23. roadtrip3500 says: Aug 10, 2012 11:14 PM

    Wait until the botched last play of the game is analyzed and criticized… whoa…

    Giants called for illegal forward pass with 2 seconds left, no time outs, trailing 32-31. By rule, it’s a 5 yard penalty, loss of down, AND a 10-second runoff. The replacement crew forgot the 10 second runoff, which should have ended the game. Instead, they reviewed the play to confirm the IFP and gave the Giants the snap at 2 seconds. If the Giants had scored on a Hail Mary, it would have been an “illegal” win. Thankfully for the officials, the Jags ended the extra play with a sack.

  24. joetoronto says: Aug 11, 2012 5:42 AM

    “And, lest anyone get too carried away by Hosley, he muffed a punt inside his own five to set up a Jags touchdown just before the end of the first half.”

    The Jags scored a TD!

    It was only a 5 yard drive but hey, that’s huge for the Jags.

  25. bigbluefan1 says: Aug 11, 2012 5:42 AM

    Watched the game these guys were not any worse then then crew that worked the Giants Packers playoff game.

  26. wallio says: Aug 11, 2012 7:51 AM

    Man get over it, the replacements aren’t that bad. I watched the Jets game last night and saw little difference. And please, like the “first tier” refs never screw up a number? I mean only happens once a week……

    PFT should be renamed RBT “Replacements B***hing Talk”

  27. cooklynn17 says: Aug 11, 2012 9:52 AM

    And so it begins…

  28. realitypolice says: Aug 11, 2012 10:24 AM

    The replacements are bad. It’s one thing to miss calls or misidentify players. It’s quite another to forget a fundamental rule of the sport that could change the outcome of a game. Their ignorance of the 10 second run off rule after that illegal forward pass penalty was stunning.

    Everyone on the Jags sideline, everyone in the stadium, and everyone watching on TV knew the rule, but somehow these guys didn’t PLUS they didn’t try to get clarification when people we’re telling them right to their faces.

    Which means not only are they bad, they’re arrogant. Not a good combination.

  29. elgatojaguar says: Aug 11, 2012 6:48 PM

    The officiating has been terrible. It’s just funny right now but when it changes the outcome of a real game people will be very upset

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