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Dansby not happy with Dolphins’ decision to dump Chad Johnson

Karlos Dansby, Tom Brady AP

By getting rid of a distraction, the Dolphins may have created an even bigger one.

Middle linebacker Karlos Dansby, appearing on 640 Sports in Ft. Lauderdale with Sid Rosenberg, said that the leader of the team’s defense disagrees with the decision to cut receiver Chad Johnson loose.

“It’s going to be a bigger distraction because we let him go,” Dansby said, via excerpts of the show disseminated by 640 Sports.  “He didn’t get that third strike.  That’s just me personally. . . .  We’ve been through worse.  We’ve seen worse.”

But Johnson was on a one-strike arrangement.  And it sounds like the coaching staff and/or front office didn’t do a good enough job explaining that to the team leaders when Johnson was signed.

Even if the players knew or should have known that Chad was in danger of being dumped if he made only one mistake, Dansby isn’t buying that Chad head-butted his wife.

“That’s not Chad,” Dansby said.  “If anybody knows Chad, that’s not Chad.”

Dansby specifically said he’s “upset” that Chad was cut.  “The man don’t drink, the man don’t smoke,” Dansby said.  “He may clown around but when it comes to football, he’s all about football.  That’s his life.  For him to be in this situation, that’s unfortunate.  And it’s out of character.”

That said, Dansby acknowledged that the front office likely has more information than the players regarding the situation.  Still, he said it’s “tough to lose a good man.”  And Dansby added that he believes he speaks for the entire team.

We realize that, when it comes to whether or not someone will go to jail, the person is innocent until proven guilty.  When it comes to employment — especially in a high-profile industry that counts on members of the public to devote their money and/or their time to the endeavor — merely getting arrested (even if the charges are false) could be enough to get a guy fired.

Especially when the guy came to town with enough baggage to make the employer leery.

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57 Responses to “Dansby not happy with Dolphins’ decision to dump Chad Johnson”
  1. thomda13 says: Aug 13, 2012 8:08 AM

    What business is it of the players to know what the conditions of his contract were? Last time I checked, coaches coach and players play. So shut up and play.

  2. phinfan says: Aug 13, 2012 8:09 AM

    ‘Dansby! Sit down and shut up or you’ll be next’

    – Signed Philbin.

  3. dhsbennett says: Aug 13, 2012 8:12 AM

    Yes…. Merely the perception of impropriety is enough to dismiss him. The NFL is a public relations and entertainment business

    Good job dolphins

    Signed

    Forty year fin fanatic

  4. tomcous says: Aug 13, 2012 8:13 AM

    The Dolphins offseason seemed to be a joke … and they should be commended for showing that they’re not just reaching for every opportunity possible.

  5. teddybayer123 says: Aug 13, 2012 8:13 AM

    Karlos with a K. ‘nuf said.

  6. 69finfan says: Aug 13, 2012 8:15 AM

    Karlos,
    Appreciate the enthusiasm regarding CJ and distractions and all but how about taking care of your side of the ball and rallying your defensive teammates, especially the secondary and pass rush to play better and let the coaches/management worry about personnel decisions. I disagree with the way the first team defense played against the Bucs first team offense on Friday night.

  7. pixelito says: Aug 13, 2012 8:17 AM

    After watching the first episode of Hard Knocks, I’m convinced Chad is mentally retarded.

  8. electricrelish says: Aug 13, 2012 8:20 AM

    “Especially when the guy came to town with enough baggage to make the employer leery.”

    If that’s how the owners felt, then they shouldn’t have hired him in the first place.

  9. desmondclee says: Aug 13, 2012 8:28 AM

    Ummm, Karlos, last time I checked, the Miami Dolphins weren’t an entity which was covered by the U.S. Constitution. Congrats, i guess, on acknowledging that basic distinction between a court of las and professional football franchise. Perhaps it would behoove Karlos to know that employers don’t have to wait until a conviction to cut ties with an employee they, after a reasonable investigation, reasonably believe committed conduct serious enough to warrant termination under the circumstances.

    Oh yeah, but that’s not Chad is it? Never mind the evidence, let your view of his character masquerade as some proxy for the truth. No, he didn’t headbutt her, she headbutted him. Kind of like Lizxy Borden plant an axe in her muder victim’s skull, her victim headbutted her skull into Lizzy’s axe. Uh, yeah.

    And good for you that you’d give Chad three strikes. I’d think that if any employer giving someone with baggage rivaling a Coach warehouse a 37th chance at football life on a one strike basis would be a humanitarian.

    But, hey, “that’s just me, personally.”

  10. ytsejamer1 says: Aug 13, 2012 8:28 AM

    I agree with Dansby on a couple points. Chad Johnson isn’t known for this type of thing and it IS truly out of character. I don’t know what the situation was but I’m sure in time, the details will come out.

    CJ is a class clown and all that, but he has always done things in good fun without harm to anyone around him. I hope for his sake that there WAS some type of misunderstanding about what happened.

    On the other side of the argument, from the Dolphins perspective…there is no argument. You can’t have a guy who was arrested for domestic battery against a woman. It’s a PR nightmare and they are just trying to find their way as an organization…new coaches, newer GM, a newer owner…etc. They can’t have this or stand for it, so they had no choice but to move on.

  11. skoobyfl says: Aug 13, 2012 8:35 AM

    2 people know what happened but only one lost her family an income.

  12. gmen1987 says: Aug 13, 2012 8:39 AM

    The immates think they are running the assulym in the NFL. Good for the Dolphins who the warden really is.

  13. lks311 says: Aug 13, 2012 8:43 AM

    Wait, the Organization who signed on for “Hard Knocks” had a zero tolerance policy with a player because they were (presumably) concerned about the distraction to the team? Okay…got it.

  14. eagleswin says: Aug 13, 2012 8:46 AM

    pixelito says:
    Aug 13, 2012 8:17 AM
    After watching the first episode of Hard Knocks, I’m convinced Chad is mentally retarded.

    ———————————-

    I thought I had read awhile back, and I may be wrong, that Chad never really learned the playbook in Cincinatti. He pretty much did his thing athletically trying to get open and Palmer pretty much had to deal with Chad not being where he was supposed to be.

  15. garyman1 says: Aug 13, 2012 8:47 AM

    I think the Dolphin staff wanted to “set the bar” with their team and not become the Detroit Lions. Since Johnson is now just an average player, they don’t lose much and still get to send a message to the rest of the team.

  16. deadeye says: Aug 13, 2012 8:49 AM

    Good for Dansby, he has an opinion.

    I wasn’t happy with the decision to sign CJ in the first place.

  17. kuta82 says: Aug 13, 2012 8:50 AM

    Philbin..You are thing that ever exsited in the NFL..No wonder why a lot of players in the NFL don’t want to play for you

  18. wryly1 says: Aug 13, 2012 8:51 AM

    Players who cannot appreciate what a limited, rare and special opportunity it is to play in the NFL should find another way to make millions in their 20’s.

  19. foooolerm says: Aug 13, 2012 8:53 AM

    No one whose iq is in more than single figures takes any notice of anything even touched by Name Dropping Sid Rosenblatt

  20. discosucs2005 says: Aug 13, 2012 8:55 AM

    I totally agree that it’s ridiculous that someone getting accused of any crime is enough to warrant the loss of employment.

    But the players (and I’m a player’s side guy) just had the chance to undo a lot of the absurd behavior rules and didn’t, so it’s all on them.

    The rest of us live in the same absurd world where we can be fired for just about anything. The difference is we don’t have large salaries to fall back on.

  21. theboysofdallas says: Aug 13, 2012 8:56 AM

    And it doesn’t help that the dolphins are doing hard knocks

  22. sterling7 says: Aug 13, 2012 8:58 AM

    I don’t understand, what is it with people that find Chad Johnson so endearing. he’s a conceited, vain loudmouth. He’ll do anything to get attention. I can’t stand the guy, never could. All you people that enjoy this jerk-you got’em, enjoy’em!

  23. MrDraft2012 says: Aug 13, 2012 8:58 AM

    When he signed with the Pats I was pumped. Then it was all down hill from there. The guy can’t come to grips with the fact that he can’t play anymore. He claims to put the work in; which physically it sure looks like he does. Mentally not so much. In Pats mincamp this year he still lined up in the wrong spot after breaking the huddle. And this guy is supposed to be a pro?

  24. realnflmaster says: Aug 13, 2012 8:59 AM

    Hey, according to this organization, Hard Knocks was done as a “football decision” lol. No wonder you haven’t been relevant since Marino, and even then you didn’t win a thing.

  25. broncostevenp says: Aug 13, 2012 9:04 AM

    Good Man? You call that a good man? A man that head butted his wife is a good man to you Karlos? Wow, what a low bar we have set for the NFL player.

    I understand everyone makes mistakes, but there are consequences for those mistakes. I think most on here would be visiting their boss on Monday morning if they were in jail all weekend. Chad is no different than anyone else.

    There is nothing that says the Dolphins can’t re-sign him. Get some counseling and show that you are remorsefull, and maybe you can get re-signed.

  26. orthomarine says: Aug 13, 2012 9:06 AM

    Karlos,

    I’m not happy with your Defense inability to get off the field against the Bucs.

    Signed,

    The few of us who actually watched…

  27. cianhegs says: Aug 13, 2012 9:08 AM

    Not even Mrs. Tannehil is gonna be enough to rescue Hard Knocks now!!

  28. pastabelly says: Aug 13, 2012 9:09 AM

    This was a veteran on a minimum non-guaranteed salary on a trial basis. It’s not a permanent member of the team who is due multiple chances. By the way, he dropped the one pass thrown to him. Bye.

  29. pastabelly says: Aug 13, 2012 9:11 AM

    More interesting about Hard Knocks Episode 1 is the kid who got cut after the first practice signed with the Patriots and is still with the team. It will be a struggle for him to make the practice squad. But the kid has a shot.

  30. j0esixpack says: Aug 13, 2012 9:15 AM

    It was the right move to let him go… But Dansby is also correct that this incident seems very much out of character for Johnson,

  31. igotgamenj says: Aug 13, 2012 9:18 AM

    The Dolphins gave him a chance and he blew it.

  32. patriotenvy says: Aug 13, 2012 9:22 AM

    You gotta let Chad be Chad. But now we will never know if he could have a big year not being held back by the Pats.

  33. islandah1 says: Aug 13, 2012 9:31 AM

    Strike 1: Stupid press conference where he dropped F-bombs and acted a fool, requiring a talking-to from the head coach.

    Strike 2: Dropping an easy catch on 3rd down that would’ve extended the drive. (i.e., not doing the exact thing you were hired to do)

    Strike 3: Arrested and jailed.

    All 3 within 2 weeks of start of season. Buh-bye!

  34. phillyphinsfan says: Aug 13, 2012 9:47 AM

    Below is a text from the police report via the Sun-Sentinal. I’m sure if Chad head butted Karlos’ sister, he would have a different opinion.

    The report continues: “While taking out the groceries, (Evelyn) located a Wall-Greens receipt in the vehicle’s trunk with a charge for a box of condoms. The two then sat inside their Black Smart Car that was parked directly in front of their house. They began talking about their sales receipt and their marriage. As they were talking Johnson became upset and without (Evelyn’s) permission grabbed her and head butted her on the forehead causing a laceration.

    “Johnson began screaming and (Evelyn) attempting to calm Johnson (sic) down. He began screaming, “I don’t give a f—! I don’t give a f— about my career.” (Evelyn) then fled on a neighbor’s house to get away from Johnson. Evelyn then fled to a neighbor’s house to get away from Johnson. Johnson began driving the neighborhood looking for (Evelyn).”

  35. EJ says: Aug 13, 2012 9:55 AM

    MrDraft2012 says:
    Aug 13, 2012 8:58 AM
    When he signed with the Pats I was pumped. Then it was all down hill from there. The guy can’t come to grips with the fact that he can’t play anymore. He claims to put the work in; which physically it sure looks like he does. Mentally not so much. In Pats mincamp this year he still lined up in the wrong spot after breaking the huddle. And this guy is supposed to be a pro?

    Agreed. The guy has one thing to learn, the playbook, after that Its all cake for receivers. Thankfully Chad wasn’t a QB, could you imagine the playbook? Everybody go deep!

  36. lks311 says: Aug 13, 2012 9:55 AM

    garyman1 says:

    I think the Dolphin staff wanted to “set the bar” with their team and not become the Detroit Lions. Since Johnson is now just an average player, they don’t lose much and still get to send a message to the rest of the team.
    —————————————–
    The Miami Dolphins aspiring not to be the Detroit Lions…because they don’t want to turn their franchise around and completely upgrade their talent pool? Three of four Lions arrested were for DUI/Weed, other was dismissed immediately for a firearm issue. Until further notice Dolphins and Lions are not to be used in the same sentence.

  37. rickeydynamite25 says: Aug 13, 2012 9:58 AM

    That’s what happens when you envolve yourself with a chic who ain’t about sh;t,,,she’s with an NFL player but on reality show called basketball wives so that should let you know what type of broad she is. I hate these basketball wives, real housewives and all of these other reality show chics,, they’re counterproductive to society and do nothing but destroy these guys career. That being said,,, shame on these guys for constantly marrying these funky broads when you knew they were bad news from the jump.

  38. bl0winsm0ke says: Aug 13, 2012 10:00 AM

    How can anyone with an outside perspective not see that they dumped the biggest wife beating headcase with out a blink of an eye, then when Chad comes in and (accused)beats his wife no brainer, had to send the message guilty or not.

    How many packers did you see beating their wives, driving drunk, going to jail period…..

  39. wtfru2 says: Aug 13, 2012 10:11 AM

    Birds of a feather flock together….

  40. 1972wasalongtimeago says: Aug 13, 2012 10:15 AM

    Dansby’s showing up 30 pounds overweight last season upset me, you, and everybody else.

    As the team started the season 0-7 because nobody was ready to play, it was upsetting to us as well.

  41. cincyorangenblack says: Aug 13, 2012 10:26 AM

    please elaborate on the “baggage” that he brought to town….other than his clowning around w/media attitude, what baggage?

    Without Tebow on the Jets or Chad in the news, this site would be treading water…

    How about you get some facts about what happened, your high profile media folk aren’t you? You’d think you would show a little restraint w/all the clicks Chad got you over the years and the “playful…” relationship he’s had w/members of your staff. Guess your just like the owners after all, just using these guys for revenue and couldnt care less about them as people

  42. japmen says: Aug 13, 2012 10:36 AM

    Pretty simple. Dansby and the defense played like garbage against the 2nd team O of Tampa. Bigger issues he needs to be worrying about than Chad. Chad knew what his contract had in it and still played the fool. Bye, bye fool.

  43. Julie Brannagh says: Aug 13, 2012 10:43 AM

    Perhaps Dansby should read Johnson’s Twitter timeline more often. Johnson seems to enjoy smoking cigars.

    It’ll be interesting to see how many NFL players are called in to visit with the head coach today re: their comments on domestic violence.

  44. broncosnative says: Aug 13, 2012 10:49 AM

    I think they just use this situation to get rid of him, not classy. IMO, CJ has never done anything to hurt anyone before this incident. The only thing he’s guilty of throughout his nfl career is craving attention, he’s by far not the only player looking for some type of attention. Tebow gets attention without even trying, why would they give him a one strike clause when CJ never been arrested before. If anything, Marshall was more of a head case, they should have at least waited until further investigation was done before taking actions less than 24 hours of his arrest. Dumervil was arrested also on a more serious crime but the broncos let the investigation take its course and it concluded that he done nothing wrong, no punishment from the organization or league.

  45. broncostevenp says: Aug 13, 2012 11:08 AM

    “How can anyone with an outside perspective not see that they dumped the biggest wife beating headcase with out a blink of an eye, then when Chad comes in and (accused)beats his wife no brainer, had to send the message guilty or not.

    How many packers did you see beating their wives, driving drunk, going to jail period…..”

    Oh how soon Packer fan forgets Mark Chumura

  46. cantonbound13 says: Aug 13, 2012 11:09 AM

    Who cares what Karlos thinks. He’s overpaid & started the season out of shape last year. He reminds me of an old Joey Porter, all talk & no game.
    The problem with this team is the GM, he has no communication skills & constantly makes moves that players don’t like. That’s why we can never get quality free agents to come here. An even bigger problem is his poor drafting record.

  47. fdugrad says: Aug 13, 2012 11:14 AM

    Another perfect example of a pampered and enabled pro football player being blissfully unaware of the rules that pertain to “The REAL WORLD.” In that world of work Karlos, employers do not expect employees, especially NEW ones to initiate their tenure with the company by holding profanity-laced discussions/conferences in public, after which he/she head back home to assault his/her spouse. In the REAL WORLD, Mr. Dansby, the employer deals with an employee the way The Dolphins did with their FORMER employee. By the way, they will do the same to YOU, should you behave likewise. As a matter of fact, The Fins might be sending a message to ANYONE on the team who might be wondering if the world of logical consequences will be in effect this year.

  48. Getoffmylawn! says: Aug 13, 2012 11:17 AM

    This is not a loss for the Dolphins. It’s a loss for Chad what’s his name today.

  49. moronhater16 says: Aug 13, 2012 11:35 AM

    He couldn’t produce decent numbers with Brady, it’s over ! This cut is less embarrassing than the 30 catch/250 yard season he would have had with the Fins!

  50. realitypolice says: Aug 13, 2012 11:40 AM

    All of the people on here who say “he’s never done anything like this before” need to check themselves.

    He had a domestic violence incident in college as well.

  51. txbossman says: Aug 13, 2012 12:04 PM

    As a “Team leader” he’s in a tough position. You have to back the HC, but back the guys too.

    I find it hard to believe that everyone doesn’t understand that CJ was walking a thin, thin wire, and why he was walking said wire.

  52. lambeaurules says: Aug 13, 2012 1:10 PM

    broncostevenp….. not a good example as it was proven in a court of law that the “woman” accusing Chumura of violating her was proven, and admitted to, lying about the entire situation for financial gain. Chumura was found not guilty but he lost his job anyway. The Packers organization, much like the Dolphins in this case, did not want the negative press and distractions.

  53. fwippel says: Aug 13, 2012 1:26 PM

    Chad Johnson was irrelevant last year. The Dolphins gave him a chance to win a roster spot and he blew it sky high. This guy makes more headlines for what he says and does off the field than on it.

    Honestly, I can’t help but wonder if this just wasn’t a ploy to get his name back in the papers. He can’t make a roster, and he can’t get himself a TV show again. At least his name is back in the headlines now.

  54. electionconfidential says: Aug 13, 2012 2:19 PM

    I don’t always agree with Stephen A. Smith, but he said something important today. He said one of the reasons Chad had this coming is because of who he chose to marry.

    I think it was on the Herd this morning that I also heard a woman running down the violence record of Evelyn Lozada (Mrs. Chad Johnson). This woman (never caught her name) thinks that this was all a set up by Evelyn as she already is a star of a reality show called Basketball Wives. While Chad has no history of violence Evelyn has become violent in front of rolling cameras many times.

    She also pointed out that the 3″ cut on Evelyn’s head is the same length as the average heel on a woman’s shoe. She posits that Evelyn argued with him over the receipt (although she’s stated publicly that she knows he fools around), head butted him, ran from the car and then inflicted the injury on herself before she reached the “neighbor’s house”.

    That would sound extremely far fetched if it wasn’t so in line with what a piece of you know what she’s shown herself to be in the last 4 seasons of Basketball Wives.

    I still don’t blame the Dolphins for dumping him. He obviously doesn’t get it. I thought maybe he would have been humbled by last season, but he’s come out running his mouth worse than ever. Like often happens though, it looks like he got away with many things only to be brought down by the company that he kept.

  55. blackcatnfl says: Aug 13, 2012 2:21 PM

    Its not like Chad Johnson heckled a Chick Fil A employee or anything serious like that!

  56. nremi85 says: Aug 13, 2012 3:00 PM

    philbin i been afan for 20 yrs. we r not the packers…we need some big name people or we will get are a$$ handled like the preseason game…to many recievers were free agents to have none and stick with what we have… im so dissapointed in being a fan

  57. spfripp says: Aug 13, 2012 4:05 PM

    Don’t get me wrong. I appreciate a good sense of humor and all but watching Hard Knocks last week IMO, Johnson was at least portrayed as a distraction with him showing up at the coaches meeting uninvited and all. It also seem as if Philbin was growing tired of his antics.

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