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For Lions, emphasis is on not being dumb

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To Lions coach Jim Schwartz, there’s a distinction between a regular penalty and a dumb penalty: Schwartz can live with it if a defensive back gets a little too aggressive in press coverage and picks up an illegal contact flag, but he can’t live with it if a player gets 15 yards after the play for throwing the ball in the face of an opponent.

Or, as Lions receiver Nate Burleson put it, just don’t be dumb.

“Discipline was a big part of our offseason and we want to show we can learn from our mistakes,” Burleson told the Detroit News. “We want to show that we can go out week in and week out and not do those dumb things we did last year. Those dumb things cost you games.”

Schwartz pointed out that you can go too far in emphasizing avoiding penalties, and sometimes penalties are a byproduct of good, hard, aggressive football.

“The emphasis is to win the game,” Schwartz said Tuesday. “As much as we took a beating over penalties last year, I’d much rather win the game and explain 10 penalties than lose the game and try to take solace in the fact that we only had one penalty.”

Ultimately, Schwartz believes what Al Davis believed: Just win, baby, even if you pick up some penalties along the way.

“It is something we talk about and something we have to do a better job with,” Schwartz said. “But the object is to win the game.”

Last year, the Lions won more games than they had in any season since 1995. So maybe those penalties weren’t all so bad.

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21 Responses to “For Lions, emphasis is on not being dumb”
  1. matt2calvin says: Aug 15, 2012 11:37 AM

    Is stomping on your opponent a good penalty or a bad penalty?

    I get confused very easily…

  2. matt2calvin says: Aug 15, 2012 11:39 AM

    “Discipline was a big part of our offseason and we want to show we can learn from our mistakes,” Burleson told the Detroit News.

    That explains the multiple arrests of the Lion’s players – they were just trying to learn, and they needed more opportunities to increase comprehension…

  3. captainwisdom8888 says: Aug 15, 2012 11:39 AM

    Before punching a guy in the helmet, or stomping on an opponents arm….just ask yourself if what you’re about to do is going to benefit your team in some way. Simple, right?

    THINK BEFORE YOU ACT. I think we all learned that sometime around kindergarten…

  4. sj39 says: Aug 15, 2012 11:45 AM

    Somebody better tutor Suh.

  5. blacknole08 says: Aug 15, 2012 11:47 AM

    “The emphasis is to win the game,” Schwartz said Tuesday. “As much as we took a beating over penalties last year, I’d much rather win the game and explain 10 penalties than lose the game and try to take solace in the fact that we only had one penalty.”

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    I really don’t understand his philosophy here. NO team will win many games consistently in this league committing 10 penalties in a game.

    Sounds like he is somewhat aware that his team is undisciplined.

  6. mitchem85 says: Aug 15, 2012 11:47 AM

    like the lions, haynesworth hates penalties too

  7. beefstroginoff says: Aug 15, 2012 11:52 AM

    Still ok to try to fight opposing coaches though.

  8. scoregasmic says: Aug 15, 2012 11:54 AM

    Man those stomping jokes never get old…

  9. daysend564 says: Aug 15, 2012 11:55 AM

    You should try extending that not being dumb to off the field as well

  10. linebusy says: Aug 15, 2012 11:55 AM

    A good penalty occurs between the whistles.
    A bad penalty occurs before or after the whistles.

  11. goldenperspective says: Aug 15, 2012 11:59 AM

    Lions 8-8. Schwartz seems a little off.

  12. mjkelly77 says: Aug 15, 2012 12:27 PM

    blacknole08 says:Aug 15, 2012 11:47 AM

    “The emphasis is to win the game,” Schwartz said Tuesday. “As much as we took a beating over penalties last year, I’d much rather win the game and explain 10 penalties than lose the game and try to take solace in the fact that we only had one penalty.”

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    I really don’t understand his philosophy here. NO team will win many games consistently in this league committing 10 penalties in a game.

    Sounds like he is somewhat aware that his team is undisciplined.
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    I see that you take things literally. But YOU would rather lose the game while commiting only one penalty? I wonder which philosophy would keep someone employed longer?

  13. m2karateman says: Aug 15, 2012 12:33 PM

    blacknole08 says:
    Aug 15, 2012 11:47 AM

    I really don’t understand his philosophy here. NO team will win many games consistently in this league committing 10 penalties in a game.

    Sounds like he is somewhat aware that his team is undisciplined.
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    What philosophy don’t you understand? That winning is more important than playing a clean game in the NFL? The Lions weren’t the most penalized team in the league last season.

    Ask the Colts fans how they feel about their team being among the least penalized in 2011, and if they enjoyed the season as a result.

    Pre and post snap penalties are the dumb ones that have to be limited. Some of the penalties taken during the plays are incidentals that happen, it’s not due to a mental lapse. I believe those are the penalties Schwartz is talking about.

  14. noeffinway says: Aug 15, 2012 12:35 PM

    And let me refresh your memories here. The so-called stomp occurred because of Suh’s frustrations with the pretty boy packers untying his shoes in just about every pile up…..Now really, who’s the bigger man here? Suh was NOT the one playing childish, un-sportsmen like games. It was the pack that was stooping to new dirty levels. Let’s get that straight once and for all!

  15. chi01town says: Aug 15, 2012 1:08 PM

    The TEAM has the same attitude as its COACH. The coach in detroit is a HOT HEAD idiot who needs angermanagement or an azz whoopin thats why the Lions do dumb things on the field. an the Drugs that the whole team is on dont help none

  16. garrison1981 says: Aug 15, 2012 1:29 PM

    ^you should worry about Cutler quitting again on YOUR garbage team! WE’LL see ya THIS season YOU joke

  17. everybodyhateschris1 says: Aug 15, 2012 1:42 PM

    @chi01town “The TEAM has the same attitude as its COACH.”

    I’ve never saw someone mention the same line for like 3 months straight on EVERY Lions article on here. You’re mind is on automatic copy & paste the minute you see a Lions article when you need to be worrying about(holds laughter) the camp battle between J’Marcus “I play 60 snaps my 1st preseason game” Webb and Chris Williams, and the beginning of the end of Urlacher. How long does the horse have to be dead before you stop beating it lol?

  18. thetokyosandblaster says: Aug 15, 2012 1:49 PM

    The lions are a joke.

  19. chi01town says: Aug 15, 2012 9:25 PM

    The last time CHICAGO played detroit the score was 37/ 13 an detroit got SMOKED. The tough guy role DONT WORK HERE. so wave your lions flag an come play football BUT keep your attitude an your FEET to your self. an one playoff game in 11 years dont make detroit a good team. Your STILL A DOORMAT TEAM

  20. goldenperspective says: Aug 15, 2012 11:41 PM

    And let me refresh your memories here. The so-called stomp occurred because of Suh’s frustrations with the pretty boy packers untying his shoes in just about every pile up…..Now really, who’s the bigger man here? Suh was NOT the one playing childish, un-sportsmen like games. It was the pack that was stooping to new dirty levels. Let’s get that straight once and for all!

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    So getting your shoes untied justifies stomping people, got it. These men are capable of turning bones to dust with their strength. I would say children are more likely to stomp when things don’t go their way than they are to untie ones shoes. Also, I like Suh.

  21. 2ndaryinsanity says: Aug 16, 2012 5:28 PM

    It amazes me that so many Lions fans continue making excuses! Suh threw a temper tantrum during the Packers game. His stupidity hurt the team. In other games, several other Lions players committed stupid penalties. Those penalties hurt the team.
    Then there’s the Lions’ off-season crime wave. This team has talent, there’s no doubt about it. However, these (supposedly) professional football players need to GROW UP…both on and off the football field.
    Of course, it would help if the head coach would do the same.

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