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You spelled “winning” wrong bagadouche. And check your down votes there chum…it took more than us winning Saints fans to thumbs down your keyster into “no credibility because you are just an uninformed pitchfork waving mob member who just wants to see this crud happen to a team you hate” land…

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Vilma is employed in Louisiana. If he were a member of the Dolphins for example,the case would be tried in Florida Federal court.

The eventual decision given by Judge Berrigan will be fair in her opinion. That’s simply what Judges do. She won’t base her decision on the fact the Saints are the home team in her jurisdiction. Judges don’t like their decisions overturned and she knows this case is headed for the appellate court.

as for me i’m no former baghead, i root for philly. but when the head of an organization holds press conferences and issues press releases containing ridiculously false information about an employee, i think that falls outside the cba and is libelous. doesn’t seem that complicated to me. and for the nfl to keep adding to the lies makes it more apparent; except to those with a preconceived idea of a just outcome.

But here’s what I’m pretty positive about.

1. The NFL will continue to operate as it sees fit and just use this experience as a learning experience to erase any procedural slip ups or technicalities that may have occurred for next time it abuses its power. People shouting this as some sort of victory over the oppressive NFL need a reality check. It doesn’t question the power, it reinforces it by requiring a loophole that’s sure to be closed next time.

2. Goodell isn’t going anywhere.

Anyone expecting something contrary is under some kind of delusion.

there was a bounty system…. multiple people admitted it…. they deserved punishment… they got it…. Goodell did his job.

the whole taking it to court thing is absurd

Aug 16, 2012 7:10 AM
This is not a Louisiana State judge in a Louisiana State court. This is a Federal judge in a Federal court…

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A Federal Judge who resides in Louisiana…get your facts straight.

Players suspensions are tough here, as the organization supported this. If you blow the whistle and nothing is found your career could be done. For that reason I think suspensions at the player level were heavy handed.

Not even Greg Williams and/or Sean Peyton have spoken out in their defense.

That HAS to leave any intelligent fan scratching their head…which eliminates the entire Saints fan base.

Now with that said, I think the player suspensions are excessive, but I also do believe you would have seen those reduced or reversed had the players gone into the appeals process. Once they refused to participate in the process that their pres agreed to in the CBA they lost the credibilty of attacking the process. Had they gone through the appeals process and then brought suit they’d have an actual leg to stand on.

This judge is looking for reasons to rule in favor of the players, as she has said in her statements, the danger is that she potentially overlooks the players culpability in the process. That’s a fast track to getting overruled on appeal.

What you have to remeber is that the team, players and NFLPA were given multiple chances to work with the league on this. They chose to try and stonewall it. There really isn’t much here legally for the player to hang their hats on, even if the NFL process was flawed, by refusing to participate the players abondoned the opportunity to dispute the integrity of the process. Add to that the fact that even AFTER the players refusal to participate in the appeals process the NFL extended the opportunity for the players to come in and present the version of events. So here is what you have: The league has to investiagate and players refuse to talk. League finds evidence of violations, league issues suspesnsion based on the available information and even after that the players refuse to talk to the NFL about it. That is why the judge has to look for reasons to rule in favor of the players. Becasue the players NEVER followed any of the practices agreed upon in the CBA. The judge will have a hard time ruling that the NFL process was flawed when the players violated the CBA in trying to thwart the porcess if she is concerned at all about being overruled on appeal.

This judge is horrible. Why is she hell bent on finding for Vilma?

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Answer: She’s a Clintoon appointee which means she’s a diehard pro-union person.

And then what happens when Vilma gets back in the game and gets fined $1,000,000 for a single hit?

He’s ruining the game.

Under his leadership he has increased NFL revenues; (and therefore ownership revenues); by billions of dollar$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Hate on him all you like, but Roger Goodell is going to be NFL Commissioner for many many years, whatever happens with ‘bountygate’….

The ‘Saints’ have been caught with their hands in the cookie jar; they should just suck it up and move on……

“They’re difficult cases to bring, because it’s hard to prove the injury was caused by a tackle with specific intent to injure, rather than a regular tackle,’’ Feldman explained at the time. “We all know injuries are a part of football. There can’t be legal liability anytime there is an injury. Otherwise, you can’t have football.’’
http://articles.boston.com/2012-04-02/sports/31276153_1_bounties-goodell-nflpa

Vilma’s was mentioned by name a month before he was suspended.

http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2012/03/23/Leagues-and-Governing-Bodies/Bountygate.aspx

Tagliabue, not so much

“Judge Berrigan will have caught the league with its fingers in the cookie jar of fabrication,…”

Oh we know that’s what you’re hopin’ for, Mike.
Bring down the man!

Occupy the NFL!

pfft…

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Exactly, this is all wishful thinking for Florio. The judge has to be careful how she proceeds. She is borderline demonstrating a bias towards Vilma. She is trying to manufacture a way to award him a decision, when a legitimate one doesn’t exist. And that will lead to a high chance of appeal success. And that’s why in the end after her media circus is over she will dismiss this case. No judge wants their decision over-turned.