Comments on: Brandon Weeden says he isn’t feeling extra pressure to succeed

By: mrfrostyj

mrfrostyj — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:21:42 +0000

I love how the Browns are (and until they are any good again will remain) defined by Randy Lerners inability to run a football team. When the Browns came back to the league they were a team on the rise (despite what they say in this article) it started rough but they went from 2 and 3 wins, to 7 wins, then to 9 wins and the playoffs. You know what happened after that? Al Lerner DIED. The second his kid took over it was all downhill as the GM, head coach and QB job became a revolving door. Holmgren himself was hired only because the Browns lost a game to the Chicago Bears. 1 GAME in the MIDDLE of Mangini’s FIRST season caused Lerner to blow up the team he had already blew up less than 7 months earlier!

The Browns will be at least the #2 team in the AFC North in a couple of seasons if only for the reason that Lerner won’t be around to blow the team up because the captain lost the opening coin toss in the 3rd game.

By: mogogo1

mogogo1 — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:40:41 +0000

It’s good he’s not feeling any pressure because there’s nothing he can do about the situation. He just needs to play as well as he can. He’s going to be a measuring stick of a far bigger issue.

The Browns are a mess and only some decent play and the return of continuity can save them. Changing horses in midstream has become their mantra. If this season goes down the tubes, it will probably mean the end of Holmgren and there will be yet another change in direction. They must find a way to stop that cycle.

By: denverbronconj

denverbronconj — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:08:43 +0000

Captain Checkdown Weeden needs to improve cuz so far he doesn’t look any better than McCoy in the preseason.

By: bkh405

bkh405 — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:43:59 +0000

Shurmur knows how the rebuild program works. Try not to laugh, but Spagnuolo was doing a good job of it in St. Louis and Shurmur was right there with him.
He bolted for Cleveland at the right time and everyone with the Rams got nervous about their jobs and changed the mentality to win now rather than keep building.
That change (and a ridiculous rash of injuries) derailed the progress in STL and gave way to Fisher. The moral here is assure the staff they have another year to get stuff straight. If you make ‘em sweat too much all hell breaks loose.

By: jjackwagon

jjackwagon — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:40:43 +0000

He shouldn’t feel any pressure…it’s Cleveland. When was the last time they were good?? Kosar era maybe???

By: The Buffer Zone

The Buffer Zone — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:15:44 +0000

For a Rookie QB:

3,000 YDs, 20 TDs, 15 INTs is a great year.

Can’t ask much more from a rookie…Andy Dalton’s rookie line was 3,398 YDs, 20 TDs, 13 INTs and we’re calling him a rising star.

Saying 3,500 YDs & 25 TDs for a rookie is merely “solid” is a touch unrealistic for what’s expected from a first year player on a team that could use improvement at multiple positions.

Cam Newton’s line rookie line was 4,051 YDs, 21 TDs, 17 INTs & people are talking about him being the greatest rookie QB ever. Yes, his feet had something to do with that, but you get my point.

By: unitedstateoftexas

unitedstateoftexas — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:24:58 +0000

All he has to do is play better than Colt did last year, I wouldn’t feel any presssure either.

By: bigzant82

bigzant82 — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:19:03 +0000

2500-2800 yards for him 18 tds and 15 ints i predict for him

By: aequitas83

aequitas83 — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:08:35 +0000

That franchise needs some semblance of stability. They hit the reset button something like 3 times in the last 5 years (Crennel/Mangini/Shurmur). Not exactly a recipe for success.

Maybe the new owner will help, but it’s a tough time for the fans. Heckert/Shurmur haven’t been given enough time to evaluate. But if he keeps them, you have the possibility of a thrown away season like Holmgren did with Mangini. On the other hand, you can’t blame an owner for wanting to bring in his own people and starting over (again).

I don’t see a “right” answer here – the owner just has to pull the trigger one way or another and stick with the course for a long term solution. The Browns are not a team that can be expected to win right away. The goal has to be improvement, not playoffs. If you put a “win now”expectation on a coach in this situation (Shurmur or anyone else), he will try to apply short term fixes that will be to the long term detriment of the club.

By: touchdownroddywhite

touchdownroddywhite — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:57:16 +0000

I’d say at 3500 yards, 25 tds and 16 ints, he’d be considered solid for the year.