Comments on: Saints acquire Barrett Ruud from Seahawks

By: dboy10

dboy10 — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 02:18:40 +0000

Why are yall acting like the saints D will be terrible or keep them from winning? Its the same D as always except they added bunkley, ruud, hawthorne, lofton & jordan/wilson/robinson are a yr older. I dont know if the D be good or not but either way that doesnt change how good the saints usually are/will be.

By: coder01

coder01 — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:43:15 +0000

Barrett, as a Buccaneer Season ticket holder I can tell you saints fans he makes lots of tackles !!!!! I believe he often lead the team. He’s great at bringing runners down 4-5 yards from the line of scrimmage.

By: jknock625

jknock625 — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:21:51 +0000

phrancheyez,
In 16 full games last year as the starting DE for a team that usually had the lead and could pin their ears back, Jordan had 31 tackles and 1 sack. That’s it. In 2011, there were 57 other DE’s with at least 31 tackles, and those DE’s AVERAGED 44 tackles and 6 sacks. Only 8 of those DE’s had 1 sack or fewer. This guy was a 1st round pick! He had no passes defended, no INT’s and no forced fumbles last year. Spags is going to rotate him in at DT a lot this year because relative unknown guys like Junior Gallette and converted LB Martez Wilson are better pass rushers. I agree that he’s only had 1 year and he could get better, but grading based on that 1 year, it’s an F.

Ingram has had knee problems since 2010, but we drafted him anyway. He only played 10 games last year because of a knee injury, and he has now had 2 surgeries in 3 years. He only averages 3.9 yards per carry and 4.2 yards per reception and has failed to separate himself from a pack of RB’s which includes Pierre Thomas (UDFA), Chris Ivory (UDFA), Darren Sproles (4th round) and newcomer Travaris Cadet (UDFA). Again, he’s a 1st round pick, so expectations are (and should be) high.

I criticize objectively based on black and white statistics and what I see in games, not because I have an emotional attachment to a player or because I pretend to be able to recognize “Talent in the NFL” like you.

By: oreo51

oreo51 — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:01:15 +0000

Ruud was just an insurance policy for Wagner in Seattle. He would have been cut next week. I hope he does well in NO.

By: phrancheyez

phrancheyez — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:42:23 +0000

@jknock625

Cam Jordan F, Mark Ingram F? You have no idea what you’re talking about. As a Saints fan, and I am one, I have to say you have an extreme lack of knowledge about Talent in the NFL. The sad part is, my team appears to be your team, and you still criticize horribly. I’m not saying any of them are A’s, but you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.

By: digger3030

digger3030 — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:33:37 +0000

Poor mans chad greenway. Lots of tackles but not much game impact.

By: jknock625

jknock625 — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:13:26 +0000

saints4evah,
Loomis and Payton can’t make good draft choices unless it’s the later rounds. Consider their first round picks to date, with my grades:
2006 – Reggie Bush (C+) – not a bad player but often injured and inconsistent
2007 – Robert Meachem (D) – often injured and inconsistent
2008 – Sedrick Ellis (D) – not much pass rush and mediocre run stopper
2009 – Malcolm Jenkins (B) – good but not great
2010 – Patrick Robinson (C+) – maybe too early to judge, has shown flashes of being good
2011 – Cam Jordan (F) – zero pass rush ability
2011 – Mark Ingram (F) – often injured and no better than the 3 undrafted RB’s we have on roster now

By: jgedgar70

jgedgar70 — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:50:06 +0000

Nice to see the hated division rival getting so desparate that they trade for a decrepit old has-been. Fantasy owners, start every Panther offensive player you have in week 2!

By: bucrightoff

bucrightoff — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:29:43 +0000

I liked Barrett when he was here, but I mean he got beat out by a rookie in Tennessee last year. That should tell you all you need to know about where his game is at at this point in his career.

By: Giantspunk213

Giantspunk213 — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:04:32 +0000

This is a pretty good pickup, dude was a tackling machine in Tampa, he was never flashy but got job done and seemed to always be where he was supposed to be.

By: wjmoffatt

wjmoffatt — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 09:02:51 +0000

Looks like I’ll be starting the Redskins #1 RB week one of fantasy, because Barrett never attacks the line of scrimmage he makes tackles 4-6 yards down field every time!

By: louisianasolider225

louisianasolider225 — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 06:35:53 +0000

Or any of the steelers top ranked defenses. They just have 2 be ranked in the 15-18 ranked defense and with that offense they will be okay.

By: bnwpnw

bnwpnw — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 05:09:20 +0000

Seahawks felt so bad after that playoff thrashing of the Saints in Seattle they’ve been throwing over their linebacker scraps out of pity.

By: vtopa

vtopa — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:22:32 +0000

NOLA’s defense is going to surprise a lot of people. Playing with a major chip on their shoulder and Spagnuolo is a defensive guru.

By: clubergo

clubergo — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 03:48:28 +0000

Let’s just wait to crown Wagner DROY…He was lost at times against Denver and is reacting not going full speed.. Against Veteran QB’s he bite on fakes…the real reason is Mike Morgan has out played himself and Ruud..So Ruud became available..Kyle Knox might have a chance to make the team now..

By: trollhammer20

trollhammer20 — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 03:04:04 +0000

Ruud was insurance in case Seattle wasn’t able to find someone for the middle after losing Hawthorne in free agency. They found someone with Bobby Wagner. Now they flip Ruud for an extra pick. Not a bad move by the front office.

Now, Philly, with Vick and Kafka both hurting… feel like parting with a fifth for Tavaris Jackson? He’s willing to take a pay cut…

By: beerbudsnbevo

beerbudsnbevo — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:57:24 +0000

Good call samapoc….

But hey, Bree’s said it’s them against the world a few weeks ago…remember?

So they should be OK…

Do I need to right the word sarcasm or does it speak for itself?

By: gotampabay52

gotampabay52 — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:54:05 +0000

the games the saint beat us watch the highlights you will see rudd miss tackling so am cool with this pick up he sucks like the saints good for Tampa can’t wait

By: jshawaii22

jshawaii22 — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:52:58 +0000

It’s only been two pre-season games, but Bobby Wagner may be as good at Lofa Tatupu was in his rookie year. Starting at MLB.

Maybe up for NFC DROY!!! Another great PC draft pick.

By: larryjames836

larryjames836 — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:51:43 +0000

I wonder what the future undisclosed draft pick is it coming from one of the players on the team. Are is it next season draft pick who knows GM Mickey Loomis is the mastermind of the draft.

By: christopher525

christopher525 — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:46:27 +0000

So, basically, they just picked up the biggest hack of a linebacker in the NFL. Congratulations. Completely afraid of contact.

By: saints4evah

saints4evah — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:46:09 +0000

jayslang…as a die hard…can’t exactly disagree, but only counter with that usually, we have the prototypical serviceable but nothing special defense all around every year CSP has been at the helm.
We let our best players in Sharper and Fujita go that weren’t named Jabari Greer. And so many folks down here just looooove Roman Harper, but when he got ran down from behind by Sam Bradford, the league knew our weak spot…make us run after you…Linebackers Vilma, Dunbar, Shanle…ugh just awful against the run but serviceable against the pass unless blitz and mouth-happy GW kept sending the house in blitzes leaving man to man coverage. Our line was never a high point. CSP hasn’t impressed one bit with his draft on the line…none of them pan out to be anything but pedestrian players and we never make a move on the big game changers that hit the market to keep all the money for the offense…oughta be interesting

By: andrewfbrowne

andrewfbrowne — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:45:52 +0000

Instant Karma going get you, get you right between the eyes.

By: ilovefoolsball

ilovefoolsball — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:45:22 +0000

samapoc says:
Aug 20, 2012 10:33 PM
No d-line, no linebackers, only two decent corners, and one decent safety. Brees is going to have to break records this year for the saints to win.
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Not so fast friend. It’s a long season. Lofton will be back and the Dline has a second year Cam Jordan as well as Bunkley and don’t discount the improvement that Spags can bring.
But Brees will probably still break records anyways, then you can be right.

By: matthewcarlson1

matthewcarlson1 — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:45:13 +0000

Seriously? loosing Vilma isnt even gonna hurt the Saints with the players theyre bringing in.

By: cball77

cball77 — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:44:45 +0000

If you’ve been watching the Hawks you knew Ruud was out one way or another – he barely played in either pre-season game and was an afterthought at camp this year.

By: brintfatre

brintfatre — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:44:39 +0000

Goodell will find a way to suspend him if there’s a chance he’ll help the Saint’s win.

By: thehighhat

thehighhat — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:43:05 +0000

Ruud should just be happy not to have to wear those Seahawk clown uniforms!

By: samapoc

samapoc — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:33:27 +0000

No d-line, no linebackers, only two decent corners, and one decent safety. Brees is going to have to break records this year for the saints to win.

By: gunndlewittlebaum

gunndlewittlebaum — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:30:45 +0000

Ummmm…Wow, great job!