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Bush, Dansby and Long sat down with Philbin about Chad Johnson

Joe Philbin, Karlos Dansby, Cameron Wake AP

When the Dolphins cut Chad Johnson following his arrest on domestic violence charges, it didn’t sit well with everyone in the Miami locker room. And three team leaders sat down with head coach Joe Philbin to express their concerns.

The Hard Knocks cameras were inside the closed-door meeting in which Reggie Bush, Karlos Dansby and Jake Long talked to Philbin, and although all three players were even-tempered and respectful, they indicated that they think the coaching staff and front office could do a better job of communicating with players who may be in danger of losing their jobs. Dansby had already said publicly that he wasn’t happy with the decision to cut Johnson, and Bush told Philbin privately that he also had concerns.

Philbin listened to what the players had to say, but he also made clear when addressing the team that players getting cut is part of the business they’re in.

“We’re going to have to cut this team to 53 guys, OK? And there’s going to have to be some tough decisions that have to be made, and you’re not going to agree with every decision,” Philbin told the team. “But at the end of the day you have to be supportive. . . . If you have a problem, go see your coach. Go see me.”

Long acknowledged that the players in the Dolphins’ locker room haven’t always done a good job of demanding the best of each other, but he said he thinks this year’s team has the right leaders in place to change that. Bush, Dansby and Long all said they’d like to have a committee of team leaders who would keep in close contact with the coaches about issues inside the locker room, and Philbin said he liked that idea.

“I think it’s great,” Philbin said. “I’m all for it.”

Bush said that when it comes to keeping players in line, veteran team leaders can take some of the heavy lifting from the coaches.

“The more the players take control of the team, I think the better for us,” Bush said. “When your brothers — your teammates — talk to you, I think it resonates a little more.”

If this incident leads to clearer communication inside the locker room, then Chad Johnson may end up contributing something to the Dolphins.

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51 Responses to “Bush, Dansby and Long sat down with Philbin about Chad Johnson”
  1. tfbuckfutter says: Aug 21, 2012 10:32 PM

    Those guys have been in the league long enough to know that if you’re on the outside of the bubble as far as talent, age and recent production goes….beating your wife probably means you get cut.

  2. glazerh8er says: Aug 21, 2012 10:33 PM

    This is so mickey mouse. Philbin is the softest coach in NFL history. I liked it when Hard Knocks emphasized that he is a perfectionist and likes to work as the team janitor from time to time picking up the trash.

  3. luckysunday20 says: Aug 21, 2012 10:34 PM

    I’d legit have a hard time respecting Reggie Bush as a leader if I was a player even though he played well last yr. Imagine this guy lecturing and bossing you around then juking himself out of bounds every other play.

  4. cheers4ablumpkin says: Aug 21, 2012 10:34 PM

    I still think there dumb for doing it. Chad Johnson is better then any WR they have right now. Good luck getting your butts kick this season joe philblin

  5. voiceofreasonsays says: Aug 21, 2012 10:34 PM

    Cut them all. Anyone who supports a male hitting a female is an imbecile period.

  6. txbossman says: Aug 21, 2012 10:38 PM

    I don’t understand how you don’t understand how CJ was going to be cut.

    Football isn’t played with good intentions.

  7. canoyoulie says: Aug 21, 2012 10:40 PM

    “they indicated that they think the coaching staff and front office could do a better job of communicating with players who may be in danger of losing their jobs” …..

    what do they expect, for the coaches and management to take a player poll first when deciding who gets cut or traded??? Chad Johnson deserved to be cut, and frankly it’s not any other player’s business what the team does.

    players play. coaches coach. know your place, prima donna players.

  8. croc90 says: Aug 21, 2012 10:40 PM

    Why do I have the feeling Philbin didn’t want Chad in the first place?

  9. saintsfan26 says: Aug 21, 2012 10:44 PM

    His wife didnt like being cut either.

  10. cali49er707 says: Aug 21, 2012 10:48 PM

    “We’re going to have to cut this team to 53 guys, OK? And there’s going to have to be some tough decisions that have to be made, and you’re not going to agree with every decision,” Philbin told the team. “But at the end of the day you have to be supportive. . . . If you have a problem, go see your coach. Go see me.”
    —————————— ——

    He then followed that with ” Yea, come see me!! I’m a man!! I’m forty!!”

  11. lbmclean says: Aug 21, 2012 10:49 PM

    checklist:

    – are you old? check
    – have you had trouble learning offenses? check
    – do you act like an ass-napkin all the time? check
    – are you so dumb you keep the receipt after buying condoms? check
    – is none of your money guaranteed? check
    – is your team nowhere near title contention? check

    final question: do you have to ask if your job is in danger?

  12. mrcogburn says: Aug 21, 2012 10:50 PM

    Employees, particularly those who have never won anything, should accomplish something before they express their “concerns.” Imagine these players trying to have a Kumbaya meeting with Don Shula. Keep the heat on Philbin. Nervous players make competive teams.

  13. 202folife says: Aug 21, 2012 10:53 PM

    As a Dolphin fan and keeping up with everything that’s been going on, I think the Dolphin players/writers and everyone else who had an opinion wanted Chad the person to succeed but forgot about Chad the football player who wasn’t producing. It was time to move on. Sorry.

  14. Andre's Johnson says: Aug 21, 2012 10:55 PM

    Bush, Dansby, and Long. Sounds like a folk band.

    I’ll tell you what would be funny:

    Lush, Dansby, and Bong.

  15. txxxchief says: Aug 21, 2012 10:59 PM

    If Chad’s Johnson would have behaved, he might still be playing for the Dolphins.

  16. xpensivewinos says: Aug 21, 2012 11:03 PM

    This team is doomed.

  17. tearsofhaten says: Aug 21, 2012 11:04 PM

    I hate this new coach. Way to step up and cut a guy for hitting his wife, but your son dies and you brush it off and accept a HC job a couple weeks later. Basically he gives up on people.

  18. bennyb82 says: Aug 21, 2012 11:07 PM

    Here is a hint. If you drop your only target in a preaseason game while you are on the downside of your career, you might be in danger of getting cut.

  19. drainbameged says: Aug 21, 2012 11:09 PM

    Its a tough dilema, speaking from experience team counsels are bad because they undercut the coaches authority…on the other hand…heaping pressure and stress on players will cause a break in the locker room. Philbin has to show these guys that he is the boss while creating an eviroment on which players will give their mind body and soul to advance. First thing that needs to happen os hiring a gm that will fill the gaps that are truly the issue and the root of their lack of success

  20. phonymcringring says: Aug 21, 2012 11:10 PM

    Real leaders would have recognized the delicate position Chad Johnson was in and sat down with him before any of this started.

    Oh, wait. That’s what Philbin did. Maybe these players can take a cue from him on actual leadership and stop whining because their buddy screwed up and paid the price.

  21. eventhorizon04 says: Aug 21, 2012 11:13 PM

    Honestly, I didn’t see anything to get excited about either way.

    I disagree with the players about Chad Johnson (it’s a rule in life – not just football – that when you become more trouble than you’re worth, you won’t last long), but I do like the idea to have a few players periodically come to the coach to report on the pulse of the locker room.

    If you don’t think that’s important, ask the Jets, who imploded last season even with a wildcard spot in reach and Rex’s reputation as a player’s coach.

  22. eventhorizon04 says: Aug 21, 2012 11:17 PM

    I know Philbin comes across as non-threatening in player meetings, but consider his record:

    He requested Brandon Marshall (who in the past two years was stabbed by his wife and was accused of punching a woman at a night club) be traded.

    He demoted Vontae Davis, a former first round pick.

    He cut Chad Johnson within 24 hours of his release after his arrest.

    I think that’s what the players were talking about when it came to ““they indicated that they think the coaching staff and front office could do a better job of communicating with players who may be in danger of losing their jobs”.

    Philbin talks softly but carries big stick, to quote Teddy Roosevelt. People are getting demoted and cut for conduct detrimental to the team, so make no mistake – he’s making a stern impression, even if he comes across as even-keeled and soft-spoken.

  23. npina111 says: Aug 21, 2012 11:25 PM

    “checklist:

    – are you old? check
    – have you had trouble learning offenses? check
    – do you act like an ass-napkin all the time? check
    – are you so dumb you keep the receipt after buying condoms? check
    – is none of your money guaranteed? check
    – is your team nowhere near title contention? check

    final question: do you have to ask if your job is in danger?”

    Best post I’ve read on this site ever.

  24. drunkenagitator says: Aug 21, 2012 11:27 PM

    Dumping Johnson immediately was the correct move. He’s finished, he’s a dope and he’s a distraction. Miami doesn’t need his circus tent persona or the lame drama that comes with it. And he couldn’t make an impact with Tom Brady as his QB, what makes anyone think Tannehill or Moore would have brought out his best?

  25. csilojohnson says: Aug 21, 2012 11:27 PM

    This reaks of a staged meeting for the hard knocks cameras.

  26. chickenneck says: Aug 21, 2012 11:28 PM

    “Employees, particularly those who have never won anything, should accomplish something before they express their “concerns.”

    Reggie has a ring……..

  27. TheMansiere says: Aug 21, 2012 11:33 PM

    There’s deeper issues that something like this can lead to and I strongly believe can ultimately resignate negatively rather than positively. I dealt with a similar thing playing college football, not so long ago, where the coaching staff elected “associate captains” to keep an eye on things that others couldn’t, or didn’t care to, and I got caught in a situation with a guy that had is own prerogative and blew me in for something that in hindsight maybe I shouldn’t have done, but am still yet to fully accept that, and really ended up leading to the end of my 10 year football career. These guys are professionals yes, and maybe less petty things occur, but perhaps such things are actually escalated. All I’m saying is that when certain people are handed leadership it doesn’t guarantee a sounder team structure, especially if these people use in ways that dont gain them the respect from the rest of the team. And with a team already knee deep in drama a situation evolving is by no means out of the question.

  28. jamaltimore says: Aug 22, 2012 12:10 AM

    He can’t catch anymore and he’s on charges sounds like a great pick up and personnel decision by the phins new staff! Then again it’s the dolphins and champions learn there!

  29. RoseTintedVisor says: Aug 22, 2012 1:12 AM

    Jake Long is the man. This is his lockerroom. Guy is first class off and on the field.

    A leadership commitee or something similar exists in all sports for all teams.

    Another ‘LOL DOLPHINS’ story.

    If the Jets had a leadership group that cared about their fellow players rather THAN GETTING THEIRS, maybe they wouldn’t have imploded on our field in the huddle during week 17 last year.

    PS: Thank God we got rid of that stupid baseball infield and let the Marlins move their circus out.

  30. mooreyb says: Aug 22, 2012 1:30 AM

    It is ignorant to assume Chad was completely at fault. His wife is a known drama queen. She never loved him anyway. He didn’t deserve to lose his job behind that crap. I’m not feeling the new coach.

  31. illwillthemick says: Aug 22, 2012 3:28 AM

    chad cant run a route to save his life. and him freestyling on routes set a very very very bad example to the other WRs. long bush and dansby none are WRs, but im sure all of them know the plays they are supposed to run.

  32. mwindle1973 says: Aug 22, 2012 5:25 AM

    I understand him getting cut, but I still think it was a mistake. At the end of the day you need to sell tickets and win games. You don’t get merit badges in the NFL. I’m with Charles Barkley on this one…who came up with the stupid notion that because you have extreme athletic ability, that it also makes you a role model, or someone of high character. I’m not condoning what Chad did, but it is an irrelevant subject in relation to him doing his job. Ironic thing is after putting football on the back burner to build a career for himself after football, he now needs football again. There are a few teams that could be in crisis if hit by injury at WR. I think he’ll play again. But will any GM be convinced he can learn enough of the playbook this late in the process to actually produce? He may have to do what TO did and sit out a year.

  33. vincentbojackson says: Aug 22, 2012 5:57 AM

    What has Reggie Bush ever done to be considered a team leader? The guy’s not even a starter on 90% of the teams in this league.

    How about you prove you can duplicate last season before you appoint yourself a team leader. NFL history is full of guys that put one nice season together before washing out.

  34. gavriloprincip33 says: Aug 22, 2012 7:12 AM

    The Hard Knocks cameras were inside the closed-door meeting…

    ————————

    Ha ha ha

    How was it really a “closed-door meeting” with HBO’s cameras in the room?

  35. biggiesmallsthecondomfilla says: Aug 22, 2012 7:42 AM

    Jeff Ireland has to be the worst gm in football. How can u have a job in this league, when u have a team with 0 talent. Wow. They have nobody at skill positions, I have never seen a team with this little hope before the season. Just look at the wr talent, laughable.

  36. FinFan68 says: Aug 22, 2012 7:47 AM

    I like that some players on this team are finally stepping up as leaders. Philbin has a leadership style that does not involve a lot of rah-rah. They are not used to that. Chad needed to be cut for many reasons. This team will be fine. They need steady leadership and they are getting that from Philbin.

  37. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: Aug 22, 2012 8:18 AM

    As usual the inmates want to run the penitentiary. Philbin displayed no leadership by going along with these three players whinning that they weren’t consulted first.

    Philbin needed to make the point that Chad was told what the deal was up front and those are the consequences. Now let’s just all move on since Chad may not have made the roster anyway.

    Instead Philbin tried to appease them a move he will regret later.

  38. cuda1234 says: Aug 22, 2012 9:12 AM

    Bush, Dansby and Long? Who would follow those three? If that’s who’s leading the Dolphins its no surprise they stink. Cut them, too.

    Martin can move to LT to replace Long.
    Thomas/Slaton/Miller can replace Bush.
    Bring Crowder back to replace Dansby.

    Better yet, trade Reggie to the JETS. That seems like a perfect fit.

  39. cavemanna says: Aug 22, 2012 9:15 AM

    “I dealt with a similar thing playing college football, not so long ago, where the coaching staff elected “associate captains” to keep an eye on things that others couldn’t, or didn’t care to, and I got caught in a situation with a guy that had is own prerogative and blew me in for something that in hindsight maybe I shouldn’t have done, but am still yet to fully accept that”

    You wanna retract any of that comment?

  40. angrycorgi says: Aug 22, 2012 9:38 AM

    So Philbin thinks its a great idea to form a squad of snitches?? Yeah, that can’t go horribly wrong…

  41. schmitty2 says: Aug 22, 2012 9:40 AM

    For all you Dolts that are condemning the Fins for cutting a hasbeen who ASSSAULTED his wife I think you guys need to take a look in the mirror..Just saying

  42. musicman495 says: Aug 22, 2012 10:03 AM

    I wonder how many closed door meetings the Saints coaching staff had about Reggie Bush.

  43. surferbum01 says: Aug 22, 2012 10:08 AM

    –tearsofhaten—-seems to me you’ve got some real life issues going on with yourself when you “hate” the new coach AND think you have a scintilla of knowledge in a how a man should morn the loss of a son. Dictating how a man deals with the loss of a child is beyond close-minded, selfish and ignorant. It’s just pathetic. Often men and/or women will delve deeper into a work event after a death as it serves as a haven for that person to mourn the loss of someone special. I don’t hear you “hatin'” on Andy Reid when it’s obvious he is doing the same thing.

    The fact that I was irked enough to respond to such a blatantly ignorant statement clearly shows I, too, have some self-control issues I need to work with to even render your response worthy of a counter response.

  44. oriolesvsravens says: Aug 22, 2012 10:38 AM

    Ok. In 09′ the Bengals had T.O. who is a better WR than Chad and that showed with the amount of targets T.O. had that year compared to Chad. In N.E. Chad was asked to do alot more than what he has ever been asked to do in Cincy. Welker, Branch, Troy Brown, etc. all hard working, good character guys who bought into the system from day one where there is no #1 receiver. Chad didn’t buy in because of what he was use to in Cincy and therefore he didn’t produce that year. 2 years later he’s washed up ‘O_o’. On EP.1 of Hard Knocks the WR coach stated that Chad was the man, in so many words. Philbin didn’t want him. I understand that as a new head coach and therefore he let him go.

    I’m not going to speculate on what happened between him and the bird he married but it’s all his fault in the end.

  45. randomguy9999 says: Aug 22, 2012 10:49 AM

    I saw a comment that Philbin has been soft and there is nothing further from the truth… he’s been completely no nonsense… and Long’s leading the worst unit on the team….

    Just because you aren’t throwing a Madden doesn’t mean you can’t coach…..

    I can tell you one thing….. Marshall got cut on rep only, 85 was one strike out and was on the way out before on performance….. everyone on that team is worried about their performance and integrity resulting in a firing….

    and that’s a pretty good situation

  46. silverhornet says: Aug 22, 2012 10:55 AM

    “tearsofhaten says:
    Aug 21, 2012 11:04 PM
    I hate this new coach. Way to step up and cut a guy for hitting his wife, but your son dies and you brush it off and accept a HC job a couple weeks later. Basically he gives up on people.”

    how do posts like this make it thru the stupidity filters?

  47. teambringitstrong says: Aug 22, 2012 10:58 AM

    I hope all of you get fired for getting as so much as a j- walking citation.

  48. swankybeat says: Aug 22, 2012 11:17 AM

    Players were pissed because they know that chad was the only legit option they had at receiver. fascinating portion of the show, I think Philban is going to struggle as a head coach because he is to0 set in his ways. This Dolphins team is going to be awful and it is clear the locker room knows it. Chad shouldn’t have been cut and now their rookie franchise QB has absolute garbage to throw too, Ricardo Wallace!!?? Side-note, they definitely should keep that tight end with the smokeshow of a girlfriend.

  49. texansdude says: Aug 22, 2012 12:36 PM

    That whole thing scene made me think of that early Brady Bunch episode when Greg and Marcia decide they were adults and had to be heard by Mom and Dad. Greg and Marcia may have had more wisdom, though.

  50. mrcogburn says: Aug 22, 2012 1:54 PM

    “Reggie has a ring……..”

    Yeh, and he HAD a Heisman to go along with it. No more, I hear.

  51. laserw says: Aug 22, 2012 4:00 PM

    As I recall Johnson’s contract had a one-strike clause – this whole situation is not a surprise to him at all – if he is too stupid to read what he signs, his attorney should read it to him and interpret for him.

    To those indignant Miami players, shut the hell up and start playing. You can’t handle your own performance and lives, so stay out of managements’!

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