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HBO will change the Gleason subtitles

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Steve Gleason believes that his words were misinterpreted via subtitles in a rough cut of his Real Sports With Bryant Gumbel profile, which debuts tonight at 9:00 p.m. ET.

And HBO will be changing the subtitles to reflect the words Gleason says that he said.

The subtitles on the rough cut claims that Gleason said:  “The real problem was no one seemed shocked.  There as no discussion of ‘Wow, did we just hear that?’”

Gleason contends that he actually said:  “The group I was with . . . no one seemed shocked.”  (Listening closely to the words without looking at the subtitles, Gleason’s interpretation seems accurate.)

The move comes, we’re told, after a Monday night discussion between Gleason and producers from the show.  As a result, the subtitles will reflect a more narrow view of Gleason’s perceived reaction to Gregg Williams’ cartoonish rant the night before the Saints faced the 49ers in the 2011 postseason.

In context, the change may not matter.  The questions come off as broad, even if the answer (as revised) comes off as narrow and focused on the people who were with Gleason at the meeting, and no one employed by the Saints.

Hee’s the reality — whether the “group” Gleason was with seemed shocked by Williams’ words depends in many respects on the reaction by the rest of the room.  If players and coaches and team employees seem shocked, Gleason’s “group” likely would have picked up on that.  If, in contrast, the Saints personnel were flabbergasted by Williams’ words, Gleason’s group likely would have caught some of that, too.

In a roundabout way, Gleason’s quote as narrowed is a slap at the stated motivations of the filmmaker who has claimed that he ultimately released the audio against Gleason’s wishes because the filmmaker was so troubled by what he heard.  In the immediate aftermath, per Gleason, the filmmaker wasn’t even shocked.

We’re not shocked that Gleason would be inclined to walk a fine line.  The Saints have been very good to him.  There’s no reason for him to gratuitously turn on the organization.

Still, the distinction between what he said and what HBO thought he said ultimately may reflect no practical difference.

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10 Responses to “HBO will change the Gleason subtitles”
  1. miles58a says: Aug 21, 2012 11:12 AM

    I knew the filmmaker only released the audio for attention. Does anyone know why was he only recording the audio and not the video or does he have video but didn’t release the video

  2. tv426 says: Aug 21, 2012 11:27 AM

    Like I’ve been saying, I heard stuff like this from coaches when I was in High School. It is just coach speak to get guys to play hard. Big deal!
    The NFL is intent on making a mountain out of a mole hill in the name of “player safety”.

    If the players had actually been putting guys out of games with illegal hits then and only then might we have something here. But that never happened. At all!!

  3. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Aug 21, 2012 11:28 AM

    Let me get this straight. HBO thought he said, “The real problem was no one seemed shocked. There as no discussion of ‘Wow, did we just hear that?’” But what he actually said was “The group I was with . . . no one seemed shocked.” Where did they get the extra sentence?

  4. bjamesa says: Aug 21, 2012 11:48 AM

    Because the Saints didn’t authorize him to record those meetings – for reasons we now know. While he was sitting in the meeting he understood the significance of the moment and pressed record…

  5. mitchdms says: Aug 21, 2012 11:58 AM

    Regardless of what you think of Gleason’s remarks and what this does to the context, HBO is showing why Real Sports is ahead of so much other journalism these days.

    We have just recent instances of misquotes, mischaracterizations, remarks about individuals without asking them in sports media that seems to be more interesting in fake shouting matches then reporting news. Kudos to HBO.

  6. miamisaint3255 says: Aug 21, 2012 12:27 PM

    HBO takes out the extra sentence in the misquote. Nice of them to do that.

    But headlines do still and will still exist all this week with the misquote and also coming up with gleason’s thinking and meaning behind the misquote. This will happen even though HBO has changed the subtitles.

    When you click on one of these erroneous headlines, there is no meat to the story, just some explanations about what Gleason means (huge jump of reasoning and interpretation even if quote was not misquoted): that he is slamming Williams for going over the line. This makes for good news nowadays and gets clicks. NFL radio and NFL Network will run with this as part of its football news headlines of the day, saying that Gleason slams Williams and Saints, but won’t further discuss because it is a non-story, with misquote being badly misinterpreted, and now we find out it was a misquote anyways.

    But headlines will continue. It is the Goodell PR machine at work.

  7. ggametoo says: Aug 21, 2012 12:33 PM

    William’s speech took place moments before the Saints were to take the field for a HUGE playoff game. Do you really think they would have been chatting about the speech at that particular juncture or anything else except what was directly in front of them? No! They would have been getting up for the game and heading out to the field entrance. C’mon guys. Get real.

  8. rmdz7 says: Aug 21, 2012 12:58 PM

    Props to HBO. It is refreshing to see there are still people in the business with a sense of integrity.

  9. acetw says: Aug 21, 2012 1:19 PM

    rmd27, If HBO had a shred of integrity to begin with, they wouldn’t have tried to pull this stunt. And that’s exactly what it was, a stunt. Manipulate a man’s words to suit their own agenda and hopefully (in their eyes) start a big hoopla that has *HBO* written all over it thereby getting a lot of attention and extra $$.
    No sir, there is no integrity in changing something that you got caught falsifying.

  10. miamisaint3255 says: Aug 21, 2012 3:05 PM

    acetw says:
    Aug 21, 2012 1:19 PM
    rmd27, If HBO had a shred of integrity to begin with, they wouldn’t have tried to pull this stunt. And that’s exactly what it was, a stunt. Manipulate a man’s words to suit their own agenda and hopefully (in their eyes) start a big hoopla that has *HBO* written all over it thereby getting a lot of attention and extra $$.
    No sir, there is no integrity in changing something that you got caught falsifying.


    You are right on the money. HBO got a lot of recognition for this and a lot of recognition for the show coming up. Would not have happened without HBO leaking the obvious misquote to various media outlets ahead of the airing of the show. Free advertising.

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