Comments on: Shooting victim is Raiders fan

By: mullman76

mullman76 — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:20:47 +0000

RAIDER haters are hilarious. They have to be the most simpleminded folks in the history of sports. What a bunch of kooks.

I love the RAIDERS- always will.

By: dwoofer

dwoofer — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 17:35:19 +0000

I used to go to Cardinals pre-season games. But I do not like to go. Here is why: the Cardinals are the only team in the USA where there is a high percentage of fans of the visiting team in the stands. This, combined with the free flow of beer, leads to arguments and fights. I attended a 49ers Monday night game (the one where Aeneas Williams hit Steve Young, ending his career), and saw several fights. I had my son with me, and I was literally in fear as we walked out of the game, that we would get hit by beer bottles (which were flying over us).
The environment at an NFL stadium (fancy name for large sports bar) is bad enough with all the alcohol that is sold and consumed. But combine that with a crowd consisting of opposing drunk fans SITTING NEXT TO EACH OTHER, as opposed to a high school game, where at least the opposition fans sit on the other side of the field, and you have a very unpleasant experience.

By: tdk24

tdk24 — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:24:14 +0000

Arizona is the wild wild west, put a fence around it…nobody gets in and nobody get’s out! Then change the name to New Australia.

By: crisper57

crisper57 — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:52:34 +0000

New info from local radio (Xtra 910 in PHX):

The shooter was a cop. The Raider fan confronted him in the parking lot. The cop walked to his car. Raider fan followed him. Cop flashed gun and badge and told him to back off. Raider fan didn’t and got shot.

By: r8derfan33

r8derfan33 — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:49:07 +0000

@jumboli
Don’t be jealous because there are more Raider fans in AZ than Cardinal fans in the entire world. Get over it. The Raiders are forever. What a moron.

By: r8derfan33

r8derfan33 — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:40:52 +0000

@sixjax
So you insinuate it was the Raider fan that was talking smack? Just the Raider fan? Another asinine comment. How about this scenario, the Cardinals fan was jealous of the Raiders fan because the Raiders have 3 SB rings and the Cardinals have none. Sounds pretty stupid doesn’t it.

By: r8derfan33

r8derfan33 — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:37:26 +0000

natelan69 says:
Aug 22, 2012 8:11 PM
A million dollars says the Raiders fan got what he deserved/asked for.
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I never heard anything so asinine in my life. He “deserved” to be shot in the face? Slow your role James Eagan Holmes.

By: patpatriotagain

patpatriotagain — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 04:38:45 +0000

guns , and alcohol? no i don’t see any problems here!

By: sixjak

sixjak — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 04:30:38 +0000

This incident did not happen in the stadium so chances are good this person did not bring a gun into the game. More than likely it was in his car. It sounds like the Raiderfan followed him back to his car. Maybe next time they’ll both just walk away. FTR I do carry a gun in my car legally but I doubt I would have pulled it in that situation. Who knows? Wasn’t there and neither were any of you. The guy did call paramedics and waited for both police and paramedics to arrive. He didn’t get charged so there you go. Maybe Raiderfan thinks twice before he feels the need to run his mouth again.

By: johnnyb1976

johnnyb1976 — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 03:25:12 +0000

That’s what you get for talking s*** in a preseason game son. You done went and got shot by grandpa. I know bad joke.

By: 1nationraidernation

1nationraidernation — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 01:34:09 +0000

jumboli says:
Aug 22, 2012 6:44 PM
The guy who shot him was walking back to his car with his wife and the Raider fan wouldn’t leave him alone. The shooter felt his life and/or his wifes live was in danger. He was simply protecting his family which is what a gun should be used for. After he shot the guy, he called the police and an ambulance and waited to make a statement saying it was self defense.

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get your boots on, this one is knee deep

By: 1nationraidernation

1nationraidernation — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 01:23:01 +0000

i wonder if they DA can prosecute this as a hate crime, since there are so many raider haters out there.

By: bobbyhoying

bobbyhoying — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 01:15:06 +0000

I find it very upsetting that Eagles fans may no longer be considered the most poorly behaved in the country. Philly may no longer be number one in anything.

By: natelan69

natelan69 — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:11:02 +0000

A million dollars says the Raiders fan got what he deserved/asked for.

By: randymachomansavage

randymachomansavage — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:52:15 +0000

What we need are more guns. Everywhere.

By: voyager6

voyager6 — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:49:06 +0000

If the shooter was walking from the stadium to the parking lot when the incident occurred, it means that likely he carried the gun into the stadium.

So much for NFL using metal detectors on people before entering the stadium. I smell a lawsuit: The NFL security failed to protect the shootee because obviously they missed the gun going into the stadium.

As far as the shooter is concerned. I bet he is politically connected somehow, explaining how he got into the stadium without a search and explaining why no arrest afterwards.

By: granadafan

granadafan — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:28:04 +0000

This is why extremist gun owners are absolutely nuts. There’s no reason to bring a gun to a football game where passions and alcohol run high. The shooter’s life was not in danger. It says there was a VERBAL “altercation”, not physical. Responsible gun owners don’t need to bring a gun everywhere they go. Rationale people walk away from bad situations and everyone lives. Irresponsible NRA types carry their gun and look for fights.

By: westclaims

westclaims — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:24:58 +0000

We know how to handle punks in AZ. If you don’t like that, then don’t act like a punk here.

By: raiderapologist

raiderapologist — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:19:21 +0000

Raider fans can’t lose. First people assumed Raider fan did the shooting, now people say Raider fan deserved to be shot. My feelings would be hurt if your opinions mattered.

By: realfootballfan

realfootballfan — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:11:10 +0000

Don’t expect anything to be done to this guy in that black hole called Arizona since the nuts who legislate in that state are possibly as wacked out as him, putting guns above everything.

Those morons actually passed a law to allow people to carry guns freely into bars and restaurants, seriously.

By: backindasaddle

backindasaddle — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:51:27 +0000

Raider fans just seem to bring out the best in people. Not that I’m condoning sports fans brandishing guns and shooting each other in the face….but I’d be willing to bet that this particular Raider fan isn’t exactly “pure as the driven snow”.

By: jumboli

jumboli — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:44:44 +0000

You Raider fans crack me up. Keep calling everyone haters.The Raider fan didn’t pull the trigger but he still insigated the incident. The guy who shot him was walking back to his car with his wife and the Raider fan wouldn’t leave him alone. The shooter felt his life and/or his wifes live was in danger. He was simply protecting his family which is what a gun should be used for. After he shot the guy, he called the police and an ambulance and waited to make a statement saying it was self defense. The fact is: Raders=trouble. They should just get rid of that joke of a franchise all together.

By: cubano76

cubano76 — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:32:56 +0000

That entire incident is just a shame.

By: vikingamericann

vikingamericann — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:28:48 +0000

Arizona’s gun laws written by the NRA. This is the America the rightwing nuts wanted. Guns everywhere, what could possibly go wrong when you have guns,tailgating, alcohol free preseason tickets, and fanatical fans.

By: playin2x

playin2x — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:26:42 +0000

Az police are as worthless as kolb in the pocket .. What more evidence do u need .. ? Enlighten me

By: hsatpft

hsatpft — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:07:33 +0000

Visit Phoenix, get shot by somebody who feels the need to bring a gun everywhere, including football games. Where do I buy the plane tickets?

By: blackandbluedivision

blackandbluedivision — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:07:05 +0000

…how do you accidentally shoot someone and don’t get arrested?! Seriously. I want to know. I’m sure there are a bunch of people in jail who “accidentally” shot someone.

By: socalraider909

socalraider909 — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:04:42 +0000

I agree with the first comment everyone is always so eager to bash us raider fans so suck it haters lol…. Oh and it’s very sad that we raider fans can’t go to a pre-season game without getting shot

By: mactimo

mactimo — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:03:12 +0000

He must have used the Dick Cheney defense

By: mactimo

mactimo — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:01:48 +0000

Oh man! I shot Marvin in the face!