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Packers adding 6,500 more real seats at Lambeau

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When the Packers talked earlier this year about the importance of making the in-stadium experience more compelling despite having a season-ticket waiting list that rivals the population of the city where they play, we had a suggestion.

Get rid of the metal bleachers.

They’re doing just that, gradually.  Season-ticket holders have until September 20 to acquire dibs on 6,500 new seats that will be placed in the south end zone of Lambeau Field, according to Michael Hunt of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.  For $89 per game, the fan gets a 21-inch chair.  A 19-inch seat costs only $82.

For many fans, the choice of where to park their tails also entails assuming a less desirable view of the action, if they choose chairs.

So when will the entire stadium convert to, like the rest of the NFL, actual seats with backs on them?  It won’t be happening on team president Mark Murphy’s watch.  Hunt writes that, in 2003, the Packers determined that they would lose 12,000 seats if they made the switch.

“I would not want to be the president who lost 12,000 seats in Lambeau Field,” Murphy said.

Still, the Packers need to ask themselves whether the bleachers are an impediment to the stadium experience.  For now, they aren’t.

And the Packers wouldn’t be adding 6,500 real seats if they didn’t think at least 6,500 fans wanted them.

Over time, look for the Packers to continue to add more and more real seats.  And to find a way to ultimately retrofit the venue to squeeze in as many people as they can, even if it means reducing the total manifest.

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  1. noreasterforlife says: Aug 23, 2012 11:33 AM

    The stadium is like a sandwich. How do you make it better? Add more CHEESE!

  2. schaef17 says: Aug 23, 2012 11:33 AM

    Isn’t he saying that he would lose 12,000 seats because plastic seats would take up more room than bleachers and the conversion would thus reduce the amount of potential seats?

  3. schaef17 says: Aug 23, 2012 11:33 AM

    savocabol1 beat me to it.

  4. lilrob10201 says: Aug 23, 2012 11:39 AM

    I think it would be more nice to get regular chairs instead of bleachers,I mean come on it is not a highschool game.

  5. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Aug 23, 2012 11:40 AM

    They’re selling out every game and I haven’t heard any complaints. Why would he remove 12,000 seats just so they can look more like a regular NFL stadium? They could remove all the seats and bleachers and Packer fans would stand around like cows going to slaughter to watch their team.

  6. gpack22 says: Aug 23, 2012 11:42 AM

    They will lose the seats, not the ticket holders. The bleachers seat #’s are nowhere near as wide as a normal backed seat would be.

  7. superjroch says: Aug 23, 2012 11:43 AM

    You’re clearly missing the point of what he’s saying. If you convert the bench seats to regular seats, there will be 12,000 fewer places for people to put their rears. That’s 12,000 people who had a place to sit on Lombardi Ave that now sit at home in front of their TV. Thompson isn’t worried people will stay home. He’s saying they’ll be forced to stay home.

  8. superjroch says: Aug 23, 2012 11:47 AM

    You should also fix this article, because Hunt did not write what you said he wrote. You claimed he wrote, “the Packers determined that they would lose 12,000 season-ticket holders if they made the switch”, when in actuality he wrote: “the Packers determined they would lose 12,000 ticket sales a game and have 12,000 very angry people to deal with if they went to an all-seat arrangement”

    Big difference.

    If you’re going to paraphrase somebody, at least do it right. It’s really quite rude the other way. You should also link to the original Journal-Sentinel article, not some Minneapolis-St. Paul reprint.

  9. theace18 says: Aug 23, 2012 11:48 AM

    Seriously?

    I’m a fan and I go to 2 games per year and my LEAST favorite part of the game experience is the seats. I’m 6’1” 250 and it is hell sitting on the stupid metal bleachers…I always pay $6 for the clip on seat with a back so I can have SOME comfort.

    Half those fans anyways are cranky ass people who don’t stand up to cheer.

    Trying to get the fans to stand up and cheer on 3rd down when the Vikings were on Offense was a big no-no. We actually got yelled at and told to sit.

    We need 12,000 of those types of fans watching at home anyway.

  10. medtxpack says: Aug 23, 2012 11:51 AM

    If I could get season tickets to the Packers games and I had to stand in a stairwell I’d take it!

    Until the peole that are already parking their rears there decide to complain by not spending money, then they will stay the same. It also works as being the only one like it in the NFL.

  11. superdanlp says: Aug 23, 2012 11:52 AM

    It actually blows my mind that you thought 12000 season ticket holders would give up their tickets. Real chairs = Less capacity. Wow, man.

  12. stellarperformance says: Aug 23, 2012 11:53 AM

    First of all…save your unoriginal fat jokes. Wisconsin does not have the market on fat. Look around.

    Secondly, I have had access to family season tickets for forty years and I have also attended games at as many as eight other stadiums. I prefer the bleachers. The in-and-out access is better and people are oftentimes already standing. No issues. It’s got the atmosphere of a college game.

  13. PowerMad says: Aug 23, 2012 11:54 AM

    This is a bad move.

    Wisconsin routinely ranks as one of the fattest states in the nation. It doesn’t matter if it’s 21-inch or 19-inch chair, it’s still going to be uncomfy for some of country’s fleshiest specimens. Seriously, a group of people whose four main food groups are beer, cheese, brats and chocolate-covered peanut butter balls do not need to be confined by what is going to amount to a plastic butt basket.

    Keep the bleachers!

  14. kidpresentable says: Aug 23, 2012 11:55 AM

    No Packer fan complains about the comfort of the seats. In fact, what sports fans laud the comfort of a seat at any stadium – even with a back? You go to live sporting events to see the team in person and be a part of the atmosphere. Nobody goes so that their butt might confuse a plastic or metal seat for their La- Z-Boy. That’s why there are half-times and 7th-inning stretches at sporting events – because stadium seats are uncomfortable, and you need to get up.

  15. srackis says: Aug 23, 2012 11:57 AM

    I’ve been to Lambeau several times. Best sporting experience I’ve ever had – both inside and outside the Stadium. What Mr. Murphy should have said, “I would not want to be the president who put 12,000 season ticket holders back on the waiting list.” or “I would not want to be the president who had to explain to the Board that we are losing the revenue 12,000 seats in Lambeau Field brings to the organization!”

  16. philtration says: Aug 23, 2012 11:58 AM

    6,500 seats….. that should hold about 3,000 average sized Packer fans.

  17. 319hike says: Aug 23, 2012 12:04 PM

    Snow removal is a big concern. Remember the snow balls during Giants games…

  18. kidpresentable says: Aug 23, 2012 12:04 PM

    “Wisconsin routinely ranks as one of the fattest states in the nation”

    Not that we haven’t heard this a million times, but that’s not factually correct, we’re actually middle-of-the road (26th). It’s the southerners that are really a bunch of fatties – almost everything south of Illinois.

  19. seandconner says: Aug 23, 2012 12:16 PM

    As has been said in these comments, they would lose 12000 in capacity, not in season ticket holders. Normally I enjoy reading the stories on here but this just sucked plain and simple. And there are plenty of fat people all over the country so lay off the “people in Wisconsin are known to be fat”. I attended a game at Lambeau in January when the Packers played the Seahawks (S. Alexander set the TD record that game) and I don’t even remember sitting on the bleachers except maybe for a few occasions. People who go to Lambeau Field are not stuck up snobs. They are die-hard fans who go to watch a game and cheer on their team. No one gives a damn if they are sitting on bleachers because we really don’t care.

  20. snoop24 says: Aug 23, 2012 12:16 PM

    I heard it came down to a vote. New chairs or free paint thinner at every game.

    We all know how that vote turned out.

  21. willtosqualor says: Aug 23, 2012 12:24 PM

    They probably could have added closer to 9,000 seats if they didn’t have to make em extra wide to accommodate the morbid obesity of your average Packers fan.

  22. titogetmesometissue says: Aug 23, 2012 12:29 PM

    Just a guess, but I’m thinking the 21″ seats are going to be WAY more in demand than the 19″ seats….

  23. Mike Florio says: Aug 23, 2012 12:29 PM

    Yep. Fingers moving faster than brain, which isn’t all that hard for me to do. I have revised accordingly.

  24. greenbay4ever says: Aug 23, 2012 12:30 PM

    The stadium is sold out for every game. No one cares about the seats. Move along. Nothing to see here.

  25. contra74 says: Aug 23, 2012 12:30 PM

    theace18 says:Aug 23, 2012 11:48 AM

    Seriously?

    I’m a fan and I go to 2 games per year and my LEAST favorite part of the game experience is the seats. I’m 6’1” 250 and it is hell sitting on the stupid metal bleachers…
    ——-
    Geez, those Packer women are getting bigger and bigger as the years go by.

  26. mrpilsner says: Aug 23, 2012 12:35 PM

    hey, ace!

    you’re a lil’ feller from where I sit and damned right, you don’t cheer the Vikings (or Bears or Lions) on third down in Lambeau!

    The bleachers ARE part of the best in-stadium experience available in the NFL. They ARE easier to navigate, MUCH easier than my Soldier Field chairs (with armrests).

    If you have Gold Package seats then you know you’re sitting in the same community of fans and you’re lucky to party with them twice a year.

    Packer fans know what they have and strike me as the friendliest to opponents’ fans. If you’re sitting amongst strangers every time you’re there, wearing Vikings gear, cheering them, you’ll get razzed as well or better there as in Soldier Field, Ford Field or anywhere else in the NFL.

    AND, our fat asses are more disturbing to our neighbors when there are armrests and fold up seats involved… we’re f-ing lucky to be in Lambeau so get small and dig the best groove in the NFL.

    Florio’s an advocate of anything that gets hits on this site…. this one is rich; him telling the Packers how to run a stadium operation

  27. bearsstillsuck says: Aug 23, 2012 12:59 PM

    They will never get rid of the bleachers, and I don’t want them to.

  28. sigmaed51 says: Aug 23, 2012 1:05 PM

    I go to most games at Lambeau, my own PERSONAL choice is i love the benches…..wouldnt upgrade to the new seats…all endzone, and some are even higher then the luxury boxes….the benches add to the experience in my opinion….plus its a pretty cool experience when 300 people show up on a saturday to shovel them for $8 an hour….dont see how they could even if they wanted to, lose 12,000 seats with an 80K plus waiting list….

  29. bla bla bla says: Aug 23, 2012 1:08 PM

    The bleachers are PART of the experience. This is Green Bay, Wisconsin, people. No frills, no fuss. We celebrate Lombardi, and Nitschke, and Forrest Gregg. We don’t care about Pavarotti, Lady Gaga or sallies like Donald Trump.

    We eat Bratwurst as opposed to tofu or quiche in these parts, and we knock back a few good, real, Wisconsin-brewed Beers as opposed to daintily sipping some frilly sugar-water with a cutesie name.

    Remove the bleachers? Sacrilege!

  30. granadafan says: Aug 23, 2012 2:00 PM

    The bleachers are better for accomadating wide bodies so they can spill over to the next seats. It’s better for the fatties, but terrible for the normal in-shape people. Seats are actually lost due to the spill over.

  31. buckybadger says: Aug 23, 2012 2:11 PM

    If you want a back to your seat you can rent on of those portable ones for like $5. You don’t even have to return it, just leave it on your seat when you leave. This also protects your area as it is tight in there and if the person next to you is bigger than your average person [common there] the rented seat keeps him from taking up your spot as well.

  32. thehatefulnerd says: Aug 23, 2012 3:27 PM

    You rent a clip on seat for like $5.

    Ever try removing snow from an entire stadium full of regular chairs?

  33. bobnelsonjr says: Aug 23, 2012 3:36 PM

    An important part of the fan experience is access to the seats and to the aisles.

    Seat backs interfere with that and interfere with the game experience when others take a long time getting to and from the seats.

    Access to remove snow and sweep any litter is also a consideration.

  34. contra74 says: Aug 23, 2012 4:01 PM

    bobnelsonjr says:Aug 23, 2012 3:36 PM

    An important part of the fan experience is access to the seats and to the aisles. (Then lose weight!)

    Seat backs interfere with that and interfere with the game experience when others take a long time getting to and from the seats. (Then lose weight!)

    Access to remove snow and sweep any litter is also a consideration. (Is that why I see bleachers across every single stadium in every single sport? NO! On Lambeau has this outdated seating issue)

  35. bluebongzilla says: Aug 23, 2012 4:57 PM

    Only really little kids are going to be able to fit in those seats. IT’S WISCONSIN.

  36. packerbacker12 says: Aug 23, 2012 5:05 PM

    I find it hilarious that people call Wisconsin residents fat when the state isn’t even ranked in the top ten of the fattest states.

  37. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Aug 23, 2012 5:25 PM

    Professional football teams play in stadiums with backs on the chairs.

  38. stellarperformance says: Aug 23, 2012 6:01 PM

    Backs on chairs? We don’ need no stinkin’ backs on chairs. RATTATATTATATTATTTATTA.

  39. gtodriver says: Aug 23, 2012 6:58 PM

    greenbay4ever says:

    “The stadium is sold out for every game.”

    The next soldout game at Lambeau Field will be the first sellout in Lambeau history.

    You may not believe that, but it’s a fact. Check the official paid attendance figures.

    The average home game paid attendance last year (15 – 1 season following a SB win) was only 70,512. The stadium theorectically “seats” 73,128.

    Doing the math for you, that’s only 96.7% paid attendance. ONLY 14 NFL teams had a worse percentage of paid attendance.

    You might also be interested that that’s the worst paid attendance percentage in the NFC North last season.

    Chicago – 101% (now that is a sellout)

    Detroit – 98.8%

    Minnesota – 98%

    Lambeau only looks sold out because of the physical dimensions of many Packer fans.

  40. contra74 says: Aug 23, 2012 8:01 PM

    gtodriver says:Aug 23, 2012 6:58 PM

    greenbay4ever says:

    “The stadium is sold out for every game.”

    The next soldout game at Lambeau Field will be the first sellout in Lambeau history.

    You may not believe that, but it’s a fact. Check the official paid attendance figures.

    The average home game paid attendance last year (15 – 1 season following a SB win) was only 70,512. The stadium theorectically “seats” 73,128.

    Doing the math for you, that’s only 96.7% paid attendance. ONLY 14 NFL teams had a worse percentage of paid attendance.

    You might also be interested that that’s the worst paid attendance percentage in the NFC North last season.

    Chicago – 101% (now that is a sellout)

    Detroit – 98.8%

    Minnesota – 98%

    Lambeau only looks sold out because of the physical dimensions of many Packer fans.
    ——–
    Numbers dont lie! Great post!

  41. stellarperformance says: Aug 23, 2012 11:25 PM

    contra74 says: Aug 23, 2012 8:01 PM
    The average home game paid attendance last year (15 – 1 season following a SB win) was only 70,512. The stadium theorectically “seats” 73,128.

    You might also be interested that that’s the worst paid attendance percentage in the NFC North last season.

    Chicago – 101% (now that is a sellout)

    Detroit – 98.8%

    Minnesota – 98%

    ——–
    Numbers dont lie! Great post!
    =================================

    Some numbers don’t lie, but most Viking fans do. You aren’t stating what the difference between sell-out and paid attendance is. Do you know? It’s the number of tickets given away. Green Bay ranks #1 in the NFC North. Stick with your predictable fat jokes. You’ll only sound bitter that way…not stupid.

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