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		<title>By: thepftpaperchase</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 19:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kathleenturnersoverdrive says:Aug 24, 2012 10:08 AM 

Why is Brees held to a higher standard than any other player?? Last I checked it was Jon Stinchcomb who was the saints NFLPA rep not Brees. Trying to create controversy out of nothing for Brees. Its petty.
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I guess you haven&#039;t checked for a while. Jon Stinchcomb got cut before the 2011 regular season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kathleenturnersoverdrive says:Aug 24, 2012 10:08 AM </p>
<p>Why is Brees held to a higher standard than any other player?? Last I checked it was Jon Stinchcomb who was the saints NFLPA rep not Brees. Trying to create controversy out of nothing for Brees. Its petty.<br />
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<p>I guess you haven&#8217;t checked for a while. Jon Stinchcomb got cut before the 2011 regular season.</p>
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		<title>By: pb420</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 18:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So tired of the pity party going on for the locked out refs. Funny, I have yet to see a replacement ref blowing a coin toss.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So tired of the pity party going on for the locked out refs. Funny, I have yet to see a replacement ref blowing a coin toss.</p>
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		<title>By: gtodriver</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[robertocfg says: 

&quot;I really don’t get it. What’s the gap between the league and the referees? 12 million over 7 years?&quot;

You are right,  you really don&#039;t get it...

The difference is $16 mil per YEAR over 7 years - or $106,000,000.00.  

You&#039;re only $94,000,000.00 off...

And then there is the fact that the NFLRA is fighting the grading of officials.  

If these guys (NFLRA refs) won&#039;t police themselves (and they haven&#039;t) - it only makes sense that their employer (the NFL) take steps to make sure that bad officials can be terminated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>robertocfg says: </p>
<p>&#8220;I really don’t get it. What’s the gap between the league and the referees? 12 million over 7 years?&#8221;</p>
<p>You are right,  you really don&#8217;t get it&#8230;</p>
<p>The difference is $16 mil per YEAR over 7 years &#8211; or $106,000,000.00.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re only $94,000,000.00 off&#8230;</p>
<p>And then there is the fact that the NFLRA is fighting the grading of officials.  </p>
<p>If these guys (NFLRA refs) won&#8217;t police themselves (and they haven&#8217;t) &#8211; it only makes sense that their employer (the NFL) take steps to make sure that bad officials can be terminated.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbluefan1</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One point not mentioned is these guys make between $40,000.00 and $120,000.00 per season plus expences that is one heck of a partime gig.

I would guess that everyone of them even with fulltime jobs will feel the hit when that cash stops I am sure they have that money earmarked for one thing or another.

No matter what these guys do fulltime $60,000.00 not in the bank is a big hit.

Plus think of the businesses that are effected 
Eye doctors are taking a hit as we know few of these refs can see.
Also the seeing dog and cane market is going to take a hit sale of the record 3 blind mice will fall off.

So this must be settled]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One point not mentioned is these guys make between $40,000.00 and $120,000.00 per season plus expences that is one heck of a partime gig.</p>
<p>I would guess that everyone of them even with fulltime jobs will feel the hit when that cash stops I am sure they have that money earmarked for one thing or another.</p>
<p>No matter what these guys do fulltime $60,000.00 not in the bank is a big hit.</p>
<p>Plus think of the businesses that are effected<br />
Eye doctors are taking a hit as we know few of these refs can see.<br />
Also the seeing dog and cane market is going to take a hit sale of the record 3 blind mice will fall off.</p>
<p>So this must be settled</p>
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		<title>By: mjkelly77</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The players and the NFLPA could be the only ones to break the current impasse, by putting enough pressure on the NFL to get back to the bargaining table. &quot;
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Why is this the NFL&#039;s issue?  What about the NFLRA? Should part-time referees really make $150,000 a year on their 2nd jobs? And they&#039;re balking at a transition from a pension plan to a 401(k) plan? Hey, 80% of American workers have already made that transition if they&#039;re lucky enough to even have a 401(k). Media shills being the exception, the vast majority of fans side with the NFL on this issue. The part-timers should count their blessings that they make more during football season alone than 90% of Americans make all year. It&#039;s time for them to come back to the negotaiting table and sign the NFL&#039;s offer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The players and the NFLPA could be the only ones to break the current impasse, by putting enough pressure on the NFL to get back to the bargaining table. &#8221;<br />
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<p>Why is this the NFL&#8217;s issue?  What about the NFLRA? Should part-time referees really make $150,000 a year on their 2nd jobs? And they&#8217;re balking at a transition from a pension plan to a 401(k) plan? Hey, 80% of American workers have already made that transition if they&#8217;re lucky enough to even have a 401(k). Media shills being the exception, the vast majority of fans side with the NFL on this issue. The part-timers should count their blessings that they make more during football season alone than 90% of Americans make all year. It&#8217;s time for them to come back to the negotaiting table and sign the NFL&#8217;s offer.</p>
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		<title>By: abqpacker</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those who say that all refs make mistakes (which is, of course, true) miss the point. It&#039;s not simply that these replacement refs miss calls, it&#039;s that they don&#039;t even appear to be aware of the rules of the game they are officiating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who say that all refs make mistakes (which is, of course, true) miss the point. It&#8217;s not simply that these replacement refs miss calls, it&#8217;s that they don&#8217;t even appear to be aware of the rules of the game they are officiating.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbyhoying</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Suppose hypothetically, many of the locked-out refs were influenced by gambling interests.  Maybe the league wouldn&#039;t want them back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suppose hypothetically, many of the locked-out refs were influenced by gambling interests.  Maybe the league wouldn&#8217;t want them back.</p>
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		<title>By: sixlombardisinyourface</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In most occupations an experienced individual delivers higher quality more efficient results and is preferred over a less experienced individual (excluding mentoring/training situations, which this is not). How is this situation any different ?

The types of errors and mistakes the replacements are making in pre-season would not be made by the regulars. The regulars make different types of mistakes on different types of calls. The replacements are blundering more basic fundamental calls.

Get the experienced regulars back on the field, didn&#039;t we suffer enough last year with the player lock-out ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In most occupations an experienced individual delivers higher quality more efficient results and is preferred over a less experienced individual (excluding mentoring/training situations, which this is not). How is this situation any different ?</p>
<p>The types of errors and mistakes the replacements are making in pre-season would not be made by the regulars. The regulars make different types of mistakes on different types of calls. The replacements are blundering more basic fundamental calls.</p>
<p>Get the experienced regulars back on the field, didn&#8217;t we suffer enough last year with the player lock-out ?</p>
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		<title>By: ben1332</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah. Get over it. I watch for the owners. That&#039;s where the entertainment is. The replacement refs should push for replacement players so they won&#039;t look so bad. It&#039;s not like the people on the field matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. Get over it. I watch for the owners. That&#8217;s where the entertainment is. The replacement refs should push for replacement players so they won&#8217;t look so bad. It&#8217;s not like the people on the field matter.</p>
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		<title>By: justwinbaby29</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The “first responders&quot; label is kind of a joke..that&#039;s the job of the trainers and team doctors.

Hopefully this thing gets settled but I&#039;m thinking it will go a couple of weeks into the season. The minute someone gets screwed that owner will put his foot down and it will be over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The “first responders&#8221; label is kind of a joke..that&#8217;s the job of the trainers and team doctors.</p>
<p>Hopefully this thing gets settled but I&#8217;m thinking it will go a couple of weeks into the season. The minute someone gets screwed that owner will put his foot down and it will be over.</p>
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		<title>By: borophyll</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[borophyll]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m in favor of whatever deal ensures that Jeff Triplette and his crew never officiate another game as long as I live.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in favor of whatever deal ensures that Jeff Triplette and his crew never officiate another game as long as I live.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbluefan11</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigbluefan11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The replacement refs make mistakes. The regular refs also make mistakes. I&#039;d rather see how the replacement refs do in real games before bringing back known flawed officials like Ed Hoculi. I know he&#039;s incompetent - I don&#039;t know that any of the replacement refs are yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The replacement refs make mistakes. The regular refs also make mistakes. I&#8217;d rather see how the replacement refs do in real games before bringing back known flawed officials like Ed Hoculi. I know he&#8217;s incompetent &#8211; I don&#8217;t know that any of the replacement refs are yet.</p>
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		<title>By: notmanning</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The replacements are already on board with the &quot;Patriot Way&quot;. Did you see that lopsided officiating affair Monday Night?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The replacements are already on board with the &#8220;Patriot Way&#8221;. Did you see that lopsided officiating affair Monday Night?</p>
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		<title>By: maddog111</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it was solely a monetary issue, I&#039;d be totally for the locked out refs.  It&#039;s a drop in the bucket to the NFL, and the refs do deserve a bump.  They&#039;re the best in the world (As hard as that is to believe).  But the fact they&#039;re fighting against being graded for competence is where they lose me.  We all know there are certain refs out there who are just awful, and should be held accountable.

The NFL should put a drop dead date out there.  If an agreement is not reached by that time, they&#039;re fired and no longer eligible to ref NFL games.  If they were to do this, they would have no problem getting the top rated college refs to accept these jobs.  They won&#039;t do this now because if they take the NFL jobs, they&#039;ll lose their college gigs and once the regular officials come back, they&#039;re all SOL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was solely a monetary issue, I&#8217;d be totally for the locked out refs.  It&#8217;s a drop in the bucket to the NFL, and the refs do deserve a bump.  They&#8217;re the best in the world (As hard as that is to believe).  But the fact they&#8217;re fighting against being graded for competence is where they lose me.  We all know there are certain refs out there who are just awful, and should be held accountable.</p>
<p>The NFL should put a drop dead date out there.  If an agreement is not reached by that time, they&#8217;re fired and no longer eligible to ref NFL games.  If they were to do this, they would have no problem getting the top rated college refs to accept these jobs.  They won&#8217;t do this now because if they take the NFL jobs, they&#8217;ll lose their college gigs and once the regular officials come back, they&#8217;re all SOL.</p>
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		<title>By: melikefootball</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For myself, the new refs may not be polished but they call as they see it with no consderation to what QB or player they throw the flag on.  This really is refreshing to watch.  No team can look at the officials and know what they can get away with.  So some calls are not correct, we saw that many times with the regular refs but wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For myself, the new refs may not be polished but they call as they see it with no consderation to what QB or player they throw the flag on.  This really is refreshing to watch.  No team can look at the officials and know what they can get away with.  So some calls are not correct, we saw that many times with the regular refs but wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: ilovefoolsball</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ilovefoolsball]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The refs are supposedly the first responders on the field. Does anyone honestly think that glorified high school refs are going to be as capae of doing the job as guys who have done this for years, and know the intricacies of the game with all of its complex rules?
I can&#039;t believe how many people are ok with the replacements handling the most important job on the field for the league. 
To say that they&#039;re getting better is an acceptance of failure because it will take years for them to get to the level of the men who have done this job for years. 
I think the players don&#039;t want to speak up because the don&#039;t want to be the victim of un-favoritism when it comes to calls.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The refs are supposedly the first responders on the field. Does anyone honestly think that glorified high school refs are going to be as capae of doing the job as guys who have done this for years, and know the intricacies of the game with all of its complex rules?<br />
I can&#8217;t believe how many people are ok with the replacements handling the most important job on the field for the league.<br />
To say that they&#8217;re getting better is an acceptance of failure because it will take years for them to get to the level of the men who have done this job for years.<br />
I think the players don&#8217;t want to speak up because the don&#8217;t want to be the victim of un-favoritism when it comes to calls.</p>
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		<title>By: Patriot42</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patriot42]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t noticed a huge drop off in way the replacements are officiating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t noticed a huge drop off in way the replacements are officiating.</p>
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		<title>By: phillyphever</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keep the regular refs locked out. The replacements are doing fine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep the regular refs locked out. The replacements are doing fine.</p>
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		<title>By: bullcharger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bullcharger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The players are the key to this one.  As Peter King suggested earlier this week on PFT Live, at least one leader per team needs to speak out.  Instead, Pats quarterback Tom Brady expressed nonchalance at the replacements last week — an emotion he surely won’t be projecting when a defensive lineman gives Brady a dirty look and a flag isn’t thrown.&quot;

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It&#039;s not the players responsibility.  There shouldn&#039;t be some kind of union solidarity between the players and the officials.  The NFL is responsible to call games properly.  The handful of part time officials that are locked out aren&#039;t the only peoplein the world that can call a game properly.  That is just nonsense.  The replacement officials will be just fine.  There have been some absolutely horrible game-changing calls in the last few years by the locked out officials anyway, so it can&#039;t be much worse.

Also... was that shot at Brady really called for?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The players are the key to this one.  As Peter King suggested earlier this week on PFT Live, at least one leader per team needs to speak out.  Instead, Pats quarterback Tom Brady expressed nonchalance at the replacements last week — an emotion he surely won’t be projecting when a defensive lineman gives Brady a dirty look and a flag isn’t thrown.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the players responsibility.  There shouldn&#8217;t be some kind of union solidarity between the players and the officials.  The NFL is responsible to call games properly.  The handful of part time officials that are locked out aren&#8217;t the only peoplein the world that can call a game properly.  That is just nonsense.  The replacement officials will be just fine.  There have been some absolutely horrible game-changing calls in the last few years by the locked out officials anyway, so it can&#8217;t be much worse.</p>
<p>Also&#8230; was that shot at Brady really called for?</p>
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		<title>By: peytonwantsaflag</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ah - the old you don&#039;t know what you&#039;ve got until it&#039;s gone ruse. 

Yeah, these guys (and gal) have some issues but at least they seem to be able to get out of the way and run 20 yards without getting winded.  

The average age must&#039;ve dropped 20 years and what they like in knowledge they make up for in spryness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah &#8211; the old you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;ve got until it&#8217;s gone ruse. </p>
<p>Yeah, these guys (and gal) have some issues but at least they seem to be able to get out of the way and run 20 yards without getting winded.  </p>
<p>The average age must&#8217;ve dropped 20 years and what they like in knowledge they make up for in spryness.</p>
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		<title>By: rexryanschoolofpodiatry</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the replacements have been alright and are getting better. There aren&#039;t 3 flags thrown on every play, this is a good thing. Let the boys play football.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the replacements have been alright and are getting better. There aren&#8217;t 3 flags thrown on every play, this is a good thing. Let the boys play football.</p>
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		<title>By: fraleyr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fraleyr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[something needs to be done. that packer bengal game last night was horrible. they missed every pass interference call in the game and the flag they did throw in the secondary was for a legal hit lol these guys are a joke]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>something needs to be done. that packer bengal game last night was horrible. they missed every pass interference call in the game and the flag they did throw in the secondary was for a legal hit lol these guys are a joke</p>
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		<title>By: browntown57</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[browntown57]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The past officials blew plenty of calls as well.  Anytime there are subjective calls to be made, some amount of human error will occur.  Any one who watches this sport knows that calls will go for and against your team.  Any good, professional team should be able to overcome a mistake of two.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The past officials blew plenty of calls as well.  Anytime there are subjective calls to be made, some amount of human error will occur.  Any one who watches this sport knows that calls will go for and against your team.  Any good, professional team should be able to overcome a mistake of two.</p>
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		<title>By: kathleenturnersoverdrive</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kathleenturnersoverdrive]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is Brees held to a higher standard than any other player??  Last I checked it was Jon Stinchcomb who was the saints NFLPA rep not Brees.  Trying to create controversy out of nothing for Brees.  Its petty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is Brees held to a higher standard than any other player??  Last I checked it was Jon Stinchcomb who was the saints NFLPA rep not Brees.  Trying to create controversy out of nothing for Brees.  Its petty.</p>
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		<title>By: lightcleric</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lightcleric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NFL refs may do less games than other sports but they also spend a LOT of time outside those games preparing for their job(often working another job on top of it). 

The money the NFL would lose from this is nothing compared to the disaster they&#039;ll have on their hands the first time a replacement ref costs a team a game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NFL refs may do less games than other sports but they also spend a LOT of time outside those games preparing for their job(often working another job on top of it). </p>
<p>The money the NFL would lose from this is nothing compared to the disaster they&#8217;ll have on their hands the first time a replacement ref costs a team a game.</p>
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		<title>By: dennisatunity</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dennisatunity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Imagine Marvin Lewis calling out  the replacements for blowing a call on Thursday. Thank God, that the regular refs have never blown a call. Thank heaven the receivers have never run the wrong route or that the offensive line has never missed a block. Lewis certainly has the right to call someone else out for making a mistake because amazingly as a coach he never made one bad call last year (which of course is why the Bengals finished 16-0 in the regular season and won the Super Bowl).  And the players are going to file a grievance for being subjected to substandard officiating?  Fair enough, as long as the refs get to file complains whenever the players play a substandard game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine Marvin Lewis calling out  the replacements for blowing a call on Thursday. Thank God, that the regular refs have never blown a call. Thank heaven the receivers have never run the wrong route or that the offensive line has never missed a block. Lewis certainly has the right to call someone else out for making a mistake because amazingly as a coach he never made one bad call last year (which of course is why the Bengals finished 16-0 in the regular season and won the Super Bowl).  And the players are going to file a grievance for being subjected to substandard officiating?  Fair enough, as long as the refs get to file complains whenever the players play a substandard game.</p>
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		<title>By: trollhammer20</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[trollhammer20]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never thought I&#039;d say this, but...bring back the refs.

Sadly, it probably won&#039;t happen until a popular team team loses a regular-season game because of a blown call.

If it happens to a team from New York, the real refs will be back on the job in fifteen minutes.  The league office hates it when an angry mob shows up on their doorstep.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never thought I&#8217;d say this, but&#8230;bring back the refs.</p>
<p>Sadly, it probably won&#8217;t happen until a popular team team loses a regular-season game because of a blown call.</p>
<p>If it happens to a team from New York, the real refs will be back on the job in fifteen minutes.  The league office hates it when an angry mob shows up on their doorstep.</p>
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		<title>By: txbossman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[txbossman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing is certainly correct;  Nobody cares.  Not players (Who really should be supporting an affiliated union.), and certainly not the fans who regularly see their teams robbed, or wronged by the oh so professional regular officials.  

Let&#039;s face it;  If the regular officials, veterans of 20 some odd years of officiating games on the highest level weren&#039;t regularly guilty of obvious, horrendous, errors  (Coin flip in the Superbowl anyone?)  people would probably care more. 

This is why, in my opinion, being a ref should be a full time job.  There are enough resources to make these guys NFL employees full time, and have a full stake in their professions.  The off season can be used for preparing mentally and physically for the season.

There really is no argument that is valid as to why one group of men making obvious, blatant errors is that superior to another group of men making obvious, blatant errors.  We see it all the time.  Hits on the field that don&#039;t draw flags, but draw fines.  Hits on the field that draw flags but don&#039;t draw fines.  One thing Jerry Jones got right was that as long as it&#039;s the same for everyone...Who cares?  And it will be.  

Officials aren&#039;t going to stop hits before they happen.  They aren&#039;t going to stop penalties before they happen, seeing as how you could call penalties on nearly every play.  The replacement officials will get better, just like every one of the regular officials got better with time, but they will never be perfect.  Just like the regular officials.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing is certainly correct;  Nobody cares.  Not players (Who really should be supporting an affiliated union.), and certainly not the fans who regularly see their teams robbed, or wronged by the oh so professional regular officials.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it;  If the regular officials, veterans of 20 some odd years of officiating games on the highest level weren&#8217;t regularly guilty of obvious, horrendous, errors  (Coin flip in the Superbowl anyone?)  people would probably care more. </p>
<p>This is why, in my opinion, being a ref should be a full time job.  There are enough resources to make these guys NFL employees full time, and have a full stake in their professions.  The off season can be used for preparing mentally and physically for the season.</p>
<p>There really is no argument that is valid as to why one group of men making obvious, blatant errors is that superior to another group of men making obvious, blatant errors.  We see it all the time.  Hits on the field that don&#8217;t draw flags, but draw fines.  Hits on the field that draw flags but don&#8217;t draw fines.  One thing Jerry Jones got right was that as long as it&#8217;s the same for everyone&#8230;Who cares?  And it will be.  </p>
<p>Officials aren&#8217;t going to stop hits before they happen.  They aren&#8217;t going to stop penalties before they happen, seeing as how you could call penalties on nearly every play.  The replacement officials will get better, just like every one of the regular officials got better with time, but they will never be perfect.  Just like the regular officials.</p>
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		<title>By: bloggingpoodlewalker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bloggingpoodlewalker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nobody cares anymore, the replacement refs are doing fine, I see no difference,..let them get the kinks out during these fake games and they will be ready come opener,..I am sooooo glad those old losers all got fired...by the way this is what happens when unions try and screw companies over,..unions havent been a benefit to workers in about a hundred years,..just a criminal organization to get rich off others labor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody cares anymore, the replacement refs are doing fine, I see no difference,..let them get the kinks out during these fake games and they will be ready come opener,..I am sooooo glad those old losers all got fired&#8230;by the way this is what happens when unions try and screw companies over,..unions havent been a benefit to workers in about a hundred years,..just a criminal organization to get rich off others labor.</p>
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		<title>By: jimr10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimr10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are right on Mike.   Obviously, they are not going to listen to fans ...so.. the players need to step up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right on Mike.   Obviously, they are not going to listen to fans &#8230;so.. the players need to step up.</p>
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