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Dennis Allen snuffs out any suggestion of quarterback controversy


Terrelle Pryor had himself quite a night of work for the Raiders on Saturday.

With Matt Leinart out because of an injured finger, Pryor replaced Carson Palmer to start the second half and made a string of highlight reel plays leading to three Raiders touchdowns. The first was a 17-yard run set up by a 59-yard scamper down the sideline and the second and third came on long passes to Juron Criner in the fourth quarter.

With Carson Palmer still getting used to life in Greg Knapp’s offense, Pryor’s play was the most impressive offense that Oakland has seen in the preseason. Even though Pryor’s big plays came against Detroit backups, coach Dennis Allen was still asked after the game if Pryor had done enough to enter the conversation at quarterback. Allen didn’t hesitate before shooting down that notion.

“He’s still a work in progress,” Allen said, via Paul Gutierrez of “But I thought he made some strides today. He’s not where we need him to be. He’s not where he wants to be. But he made some progress.”

Calling the idea of the Raiders turning to Pryor as a starter at this point in the season far-fetched is something of an understatement. He’s never played with or against a starting unit and didn’t see any action in the regular season as a rookie. Progress is all the Raiders needed to see at this point, although it’s not out of the realm of possibility that the Raiders would try to find a way to use his exceptional athletic ability at some point in 2012.

That would mean a spot on the active roster on game days and that could mean more for Leinart’s future in Oakland than it does for Palmer’s.

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  1. lks311 says: Aug 26, 2012 12:16 PM

    The sooner the Raiders start T Pryor, the sooner NFL D Coordinators can scheme against him. Kid was a no pass QB @ D1 level—why will it be different in the Big Leagues?

  2. ernie ernie says: Aug 26, 2012 12:18 PM

    He’s a guy like Tebow you don’t want looking over your shoulder. Palmer and especially Lehnerz better light a fire because Pryor will be on the bench praying they get injured so he has his chance at glory and to redeem himself.
    I hope the O line give Palmer the protection he needs rather than slack off making him look bad so the kid can come in an play.
    It happened in Tennessee to give Vince the chance he needed and it can happen elsewhere.

  3. freshchorizo says: Aug 26, 2012 12:19 PM

    He definitely needs more time to develop, but he showed enough last night to warrant some playing time. A package of plays should be designed for the red zone or as a change of pace a few times a game to keep the defense off balance.

  4. dabutcha114 says: Aug 26, 2012 12:26 PM

    Where there is smoke there’s fire!

  5. blue18hutthutt says: Aug 26, 2012 12:26 PM

    What a stupid question. Pryor has looked like complete garbage until that game and it’s questionable whether he has what it takes to even be an NFL caliber backup

    Palmer might not be a good fit for Knapp’s offense and has struggled this pre-season but the suggestion of Pryor being in the conversation is as rediculous a knee-jerk suggestion as any – heck even Leinart, ridicule him all you want, is a far better player (at this point) and a good fit Knapp’s offense

  6. villa41 says: Aug 26, 2012 12:26 PM

    The kid did fine, but he has a long way to go to be a viable starting QB in this league. Palmer is the present and future for the next several years, and that’s a good thing. He’s only 32 and has a lot of good football left.

    I’ve heard some say Palmer is a bad fit for Knapp’s offense. That’s complete nonsense. Let’s look at some stats. Palmer has an 86.3 career QB rating. That’s 18 ALL TIME, and better than Eli Manning’s 82.1. Palmer has a 62.7 career completion percentage. That’s 14th ALL TIME. Just to compare, that’s better than Matthew Stafford (you know the hot shot young gun we just beat) at 59.8 (38th all time). CP also is 10th among active QB’s with 7.2 yards per attempt. That’s right in the neigborhood with Peyton Manning at 7.6 (6th) and Brady at 7.5 (7th).

    Palmer has the intangibles you need in your QB too, like being the hardest worker and good leader. Shoot, he’s Pryor’s biggest cheerleader and mentor.

    Yeah, we’ll be just fine with Palmer. He’ll be even better when our best receivers in Moore and Ford come back. This team looks like the class of the West. The defense looks vastly improved, and the offense should be even better than last year.

    My concerns at this point are special teams and red zone scoring. Points follow yards, though. As long as we keep moving the ball like we have, the points will eventually come. CP is not the problem he’s part of the solution.

  7. thekiy says: Aug 26, 2012 12:32 PM

    Lions had second stringers in for the 2nd quarter, and scrubs for the second half. Pryor stayed in until the two minute warning in the fourth.

    Lets not read too much into his numbers.

  8. justwinbaby29 says: Aug 26, 2012 12:32 PM

    Pryor played well but he still has a long ways to go. He did his damage doesn’t back-up players but was still impressive. He is athletic enough to throw at the opposition in another package.

    Palmer is fine. The one INT was Eddie McGee’s fault. However the one picked off by the DL was on Palmer. He seems to have a stupid INT every game. That can’t happen when the games actually count!

  9. raideralex99 says: Aug 26, 2012 12:35 PM

    Is this a joke … QB controversy.
    I think McFadden has a better chance of playing QB than Pryor.

  10. blue18hutthutt says: Aug 26, 2012 12:50 PM

    villa41 says:
    Aug 26, 2012 12:26 PM
    I’ve heard some say Palmer is a bad fit for Knapp’s offense. That’s complete nonsense. Let’s look at some stats. Palmer has an 86.3 career QB rating. That’s 18 ALL TIME, and better than Eli Manning’s 82.1. Palmer has a 62.7 career completion percentage. That’s 14th ALL TIME. Just to compare, that’s better than Matthew Stafford (you know the hot shot young gun we just beat) at 59.8 (38th all time). CP also is 10th among active QB’s with 7.2 yards per attempt. That’s right in the neigborhood with Peyton Manning at 7.6 (6th) and Brady at 7.5 (7th).

    This has my vote for worst post and worst argument of the day. What on earth do CAREER VOLUME PASSING STATISTICS have to do with proving or disproving whether Palmer is a good or bad fit for the version of the West Coast offense that Knapp runs? What do statistics accrued playing for Hue Jackson and Bob Bratkowski have anything to do with whether he is a fit for the Knapp system?

    This is the most asinine-ten-eleven asi-twelve argument anyone could make. We know Palmer WAS good and that he put up great numbers in the past in DIFFERENT systems what we’re looking at is his fit for the CURRENT system (BTW how’d he do last year?)

    The Knapp system involves alot of bootlegging and getting out of the pocket and misdirection to setup passing plays – Palmer is not a particularly athletic QB and is more of a strong-armed downfield pocket passer. What attributes does Palmer have that make him a good fit for the Knapp system? I’m not knocking Palmer, I’m a fan of the guy and think he could still be elite in the right system and environment but I question your “logic” that he is a fit for the Knapp system

  11. logic216 says: Aug 26, 2012 12:51 PM

    he needs a shot

  12. onderin says: Aug 26, 2012 12:58 PM

    This idea just sounds like media rubbing two sticks together to try and create a fire where there isn’t one. Pryor did some good things, but he’s far from creating a quarterback controversy.

  13. 7pints says: Aug 26, 2012 1:02 PM

    You view Palmer being your present and future as a good thing? Another classic comedic comment from you!

  14. essentialsausage says: Aug 26, 2012 1:09 PM

    “He seems to have a stupid INT every game.”
    That’s because he’s a mediocre QB. I’m baffled (flabbergasted?) that some people still haven’t figured this out yet.

  15. nflfollower says: Aug 26, 2012 1:39 PM

    Most of the guys he played against, with the exception of a few special teams guys, won’t be on detroits active 53. So take it with a grain of salt, but in my opinion he showed he is still a playmaker who may be worth giving a shot down the line at some point, whether its next year or perhaps the one after that. Palmer isn’t getting any younger.

  16. egomaniac247 says: Aug 26, 2012 1:52 PM

    How does Leinart even have a job in the NFL any more?

    This coming from a Cardinals fan who was unwilling to label him as a bust until he got knocked out of the Texans game last year.

    Up until that point I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and just say that he got beat out by a potential future hall of famer (Warner) and then had a biased coach (Whisenhunt) after he clearly outperformed Derek Anderson in the preseason of 2011.

    When he signed with Houston I thought he was in a great position for when Schaub inevitably got hurt. He had a golden opportunity and instantly got hurt when his chance arrived. When he got hurt with with the Raiders it became almost comical.

    Pryor will easily be the #2 QB at some point this year.

  17. jjbadd385 says: Aug 26, 2012 4:13 PM

    I must be off my rocker, but for some reason I have a feeling that Pryor will be a decent QB in the NFL. What’s worse than my opinion is the fact that I’m a Bronco fan! I have been screaming all off season that I like what the Raiders are doing, & I feel they will be a force to reckon with in the West. But Palmer could be the one thing that makes or breaks the Raiders. He is above average most of the time, but has those ugly streaks.

  18. ch8878 says: Aug 27, 2012 1:03 AM

    The kid played great he showed he has a big time arm and he maybe the fastest QB in NFL history with a blazing speed of 4.38 in the 40 he does however need another preseason under his belt and he needs to sure up his game.

    But the people who try to say he played against the 3rd stringers is complete garbage he played against some starters and then 2nd stringers he didn’t play against 3rd stringers the 4th QB did, the starters played part of the 3rd quarter when he came in the game because Matt didn’t play.

  19. mwcarolina says: Aug 27, 2012 12:06 PM

    it’s too soon for him to move up. he had a great run and a great pass, but he’s got a ways to go. one of the td passes was kinda underthrown, but the rest of it was not bad, the run was amazing.

  20. rodster213 says: Aug 28, 2012 12:03 AM

    Denial is a very powerful drug apparently for if you Palmer loyalists can’t see that that red headed buffoon is going to continue to throw moronic int’s then you all need to see the psyche doc ASAP. He has done this for 5 yrs yet for some reason you think it will all of a sudden go away just because he says he isn’t concerned? That’s because you can’t teach a dumb dog nothing for he’s been doing this far too long to change now, the sooner the Raiders accept this and move on from Carson the more explosive this offense will be. Pryor was beast, just look how much he improved just by getting more reps with Leinart out. Imagine what he will become once the Raiders come to their senses and give him the 1st team reps. Just like Russell Wilson.

    $$man has spoken

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